Uncommanded Update Check

[Scott]

A few days ago I changed the automatic update settings (Control
Panel->Security) to only check for updates each Thursday at 8am.

This morning, Wednesday, I was surprised to get an alert for a Silverlight
update.

Does anyone know why this happened? Would another program like McAffee
(which I have installed now), or Microsoft Security Essentials (which I plan
to replace McAffee with) independently check for updates?

Thanks
Scott
Los Angeles

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

[X-post to Windows Update]

Enervating, ain't it, especially when it's something stupid like a
Silverlight update (which prolly won't install anyway)?

Tip: Select the "Notify Only" option instead of the "Automatic" option.
After doing so, no updates will download /or/ install without your explicit
approval.

 

[MowGreen]

Silverlight is the "Michael Myers" of updates ... just when you think
you've 'killed' the monstrosity by hiding ... it lives !
According to " Ask Leo ", resistance is futile :

What is Silverlight, and do I need it?
http://ask-leo.com/what_is_silverlight_and_do_i_need_it.html

I say ... take your 'Silverslight' and put it where the Sun don't
shine but the moon beams ! <eg>


MowGreen
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

banthecheck.com
"Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked

 

[Harry Johnston [MVP]]

Nope. This setting controls when updates are installed, not when they are
checked for or downloaded.

Harry.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Nope. This setting controls when updates are installed, not when they are
checked for or downloaded.

<rhetorical questions, all>

So why the prompt to install (we assume) a Silverlight update on a Wednesday
morning?

Is the update-in-question KB979202, which didn't hit WU until Tuesday, 19
Jan-10?

 

[Harry Johnston [MVP]]

<rhetorical questions, all>

So why the prompt to install (we assume) a Silverlight update on a
Wednesday morning?

Rhetorical answer: because that's when the update finished downloading? I'm not
sure what you're getting at - Automatic Updates always tells you as soon as
updates are available to install.

Is the update-in-question KB979202, which didn't hit WU until Tuesday,
19 Jan-10?

Third Tuesday of the month - also normal for non-security updates.

Harry.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Rhetorical answer: because that's when the update finished downloading?
I'm not sure what you're getting at - Automatic Updates always tells you
as
soon as updates are available to install.

But you said the setting was for when updates were installed. Wednesday is
not Thursday.

Third Tuesday of the month - also normal for non-security updates.

Yes, but none are listed for Jan. 20th in KB894199 as one would expect.

 

[Scott]

Thanks to all for your comments. It inspired me to use the tried and true
method of carefully reading the words in the box I'm trying to change. The
options in the Automatic Updates box mentions download and installing only.
Help states XP will routinely check for new updates and provide an alert. I
received an alert (icon blight), the Silverlight update did not download
automatically.

The big picture is that I'm trying to reduce the startup burden for my
notebook which has ballooned from less than a minute to about 3:30. I did
discover there were four scheduled tasks that I was unaware of. First was an
Ad-Aware Update, which is no longer on my computer. The other three were
Google tasks as a result of installing Google Earth.

Thanks
Scott
Los Angeles

 

[Harry Johnston [MVP]]

But you said the setting was for when updates were installed. Wednesday
is not Thursday.

But it didn't install the update - not unless the user asked it to, anyway.

The setting doesn't stop WUA from *telling* the user that the update is
available, or offering to install it before the scheduled time.

Yes, but none are listed for Jan. 20th in KB894199 as one would expect.

KB894199 only includes stuff distributed in Windows Update. There used to be
corresponding documents for Microsoft Update stuff (such as Silverlight) but the
last one I can find is from August:

<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/wsus/ee412245.aspx>

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/wsus/ee412245.aspx

I've already complained loudly to MS about the lack of complete and up to date
information. I do have some hope this will improve in the future, but few
expectations in the short term.

Harry.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

The big picture is that I'm trying to reduce the startup burden for my

notebook which has ballooned from less than a minute to about 3:30.

Help! My computer is slow!
http://miekiemoes.blogspot.com/2008/02/help-my-computer-is-slow.html

OT: See http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=33827

Thanks to all for your comments. It inspired me to use the tried and true
method of carefully reading the words in the box I'm trying to change. The
options in the Automatic Updates box mentions download and installing
only.
Help states XP will routinely check for new updates and provide an alert.
I
received an alert (icon blight), the Silverlight update did not download
automatically.

The big picture is that I'm trying to reduce the startup burden for my
notebook which has ballooned from less than a minute to about 3:30. I did
discover there were four scheduled tasks that I was unaware of. First was
an
Ad-Aware Update, which is no longer on my computer. The other three were
Google tasks as a result of installing Google Earth.

Thanks
Scott
Los Angeles

On 2010-01-21 1:52 p.m., PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

A few days ago I changed the automatic update settings (Control
Panel->Security) to only check for updates each Thursday at 8am.

Nope. This setting controls when updates are installed, not when they
are
checked for or downloaded.

<rhetorical questions, all>

So why the prompt to install (we assume) a Silverlight update on a
Wednesday morning?

Rhetorical answer: because that's when the update finished downloading?
I'm not sure what you're getting at - Automatic Updates always tells you
as
soon as updates are available to install.

But you said the setting was for when updates were installed. Wednesday
is not Thursday.

Is the update-in-question KB979202, which didn't hit WU until Tuesday,
19 Jan-10?

Third Tuesday of the month - also normal for non-security updates.

Yes, but none are listed for Jan. 20th in KB894199 as one would expect.

 

[Joan Archer]

Ouch <lol>

--
Joan Archer
http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher

Silverlight is the "Michael Myers" of updates ... just when you think
you've 'killed' the monstrosity by hiding ... it lives !
According to " Ask Leo ", resistance is futile :

What is Silverlight, and do I need it?
http://ask-leo.com/what_is_silverlight_and_do_i_need_it.html

I say ... take your 'Silverslight' and put it where the Sun don't
shine but the moon beams ! <eg>


MowGreen
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

banthecheck.com
"Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked

[X-post to Windows Update]

Enervating, ain't it, especially when it's something stupid like a
Silverlight update (which prolly won't install anyway)?

Tip: Select the "Notify Only" option instead of the "Automatic" option.
After doing so, no updates will download /or/ install without your
explicit approval.

 

[Scott]

Thanks for this link. I have already done the things mentioned there but it
did remind me of something else. I had not done a disk error check for a
long, long time on this computer.

I am surprised that it made a big difference. It cut 1 minute off the
startup time. Other items are working much faster too. For example, after
clicking the start button there was a three to five second wait for the
menu to appear, now it comes up instantly.

The big picture is that I'm trying to reduce the startup burden for my
notebook which has ballooned from less than a minute to about 3:30.

Help! My computer is slow!
http://miekiemoes.blogspot.com/2008/02/help-my-computer-is-slow.html

OT: See http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=33827

Thanks to all for your comments. It inspired me to use the tried and true
method of carefully reading the words in the box I'm trying to change.
The
options in the Automatic Updates box mentions download and installing
only.
Help states XP will routinely check for new updates and provide an alert.
I
received an alert (icon blight), the Silverlight update did not download
automatically.

The big picture is that I'm trying to reduce the startup burden for my
notebook which has ballooned from less than a minute to about 3:30. I did
discover there were four scheduled tasks that I was unaware of. First was
an
Ad-Aware Update, which is no longer on my computer. The other three were
Google tasks as a result of installing Google Earth.

Thanks
Scott
Los Angeles

Harry Johnston [MVP] wrote:
On 2010-01-21 1:52 p.m., PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

A few days ago I changed the automatic update settings (Control
Panel->Security) to only check for updates each Thursday at 8am.

Nope. This setting controls when updates are installed, not when they
are
checked for or downloaded.

<rhetorical questions, all>

So why the prompt to install (we assume) a Silverlight update on a
Wednesday morning?

Rhetorical answer: because that's when the update finished downloading?
I'm not sure what you're getting at - Automatic Updates always tells
you
as
soon as updates are available to install.

But you said the setting was for when updates were installed. Wednesday
is not Thursday.

Is the update-in-question KB979202, which didn't hit WU until Tuesday,
19 Jan-10?

Third Tuesday of the month - also normal for non-security updates.

Yes, but none are listed for Jan. 20th in KB894199 as one would expect.