unable to boot XP after installation

[AM Robertson]

My newly built PC:
Motherboard: Intel DP965LT motherboard.
BIOS Version: MQ96510J.86A.1612.2006.1227.1513.
CPU: Intel Celeron D 3.06MHz
Memory: Crucial DDR2 1GB PC5300 667MHz, installed at Channel A, DIMM 0 slot.
Single channel. 1024MB memory shown in BIOS.
Parallel ATA cable connecting:
1. Harddrive: Maxtor 6L040J2, 40GB, IDE ATA, set to master.
2. CD-ROM: NEC 52X CD-ROM drive, IDE ATA, set to slave
Floppy diskette drive.

I am able to boot Microsoft Windows XP bootable CD disc.
I am able to install XP into the hard drive.
I am NOT able to boot XP from hard drive, only black screen.

I am able to boot DOS from floppy and Harddrive.
However, when I boot DOS, I am NOT able to detect the CR-ROM device.

Your advise is much appreciated.

 

[Frank McCoy]

In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "AM Robertson"

My newly built PC:
Motherboard: Intel DP965LT motherboard.
BIOS Version: MQ96510J.86A.1612.2006.1227.1513.
CPU: Intel Celeron D 3.06MHz
Memory: Crucial DDR2 1GB PC5300 667MHz, installed at Channel A, DIMM 0 slot.
Single channel. 1024MB memory shown in BIOS.
Parallel ATA cable connecting:
1. Harddrive: Maxtor 6L040J2, 40GB, IDE ATA, set to master.
2. CD-ROM: NEC 52X CD-ROM drive, IDE ATA, set to slave
Floppy diskette drive.

I am able to boot Microsoft Windows XP bootable CD disc.
I am able to install XP into the hard drive.
I am NOT able to boot XP from hard drive, only black screen.

I am able to boot DOS from floppy and Harddrive.
However, when I boot DOS, I am NOT able to detect the CR-ROM device.

You need to load a device-driver.
The commonest is OAKCDROM.SYS.
Look for it on your installation disk.
Copy it over to your DOS drive and then add a line like:
DEVICE=OAKCDROM.SYS
To your CONFIG.SYS file.

 

[Yes Baby]

My newly built PC:
Motherboard: Intel DP965LT motherboard.
BIOS Version: MQ96510J.86A.1612.2006.1227.1513.
CPU: Intel Celeron D 3.06MHz
Memory: Crucial DDR2 1GB PC5300 667MHz, installed at Channel A, DIMM 0
slot.
Single channel. 1024MB memory shown in BIOS.
Parallel ATA cable connecting:
1. Harddrive: Maxtor 6L040J2, 40GB, IDE ATA, set to master.
2. CD-ROM: NEC 52X CD-ROM drive, IDE ATA, set to slave
Floppy diskette drive.

I am able to boot Microsoft Windows XP bootable CD disc.
I am able to install XP into the hard drive.
I am NOT able to boot XP from hard drive, only black screen.

I am able to boot DOS from floppy and Harddrive.
However, when I boot DOS, I am NOT able to detect the CR-ROM device.

Your advise is much appreciated.

is the Maxtor on the last connector on the cable....if not make it such.

 

[sdeyoreo]

My newly built PC:
Motherboard: Intel DP965LT motherboard.
BIOS Version: MQ96510J.86A.1612.2006.1227.1513.
CPU: Intel Celeron D 3.06MHz
Memory: Crucial DDR2 1GB PC5300 667MHz, installed at Channel A, DIMM 0 slot.
Single channel. 1024MB memory shown in BIOS.
Parallel ATA cable connecting:
1. Harddrive: Maxtor 6L040J2, 40GB, IDE ATA, set to master.
2. CD-ROM: NEC 52X CD-ROM drive, IDE ATA, set to slave
Floppy diskette drive.

I am able to boot Microsoft Windows XP bootable CD disc.
I am able to install XP into the hard drive.
I am NOT able to boot XP from hard drive, only black screen.

I am able to boot DOS from floppy and Harddrive.
However, when I boot DOS, I am NOT able to detect the CR-ROM device.

Your advise is much appreciated.

You went thru the whole XP install without a problem?
Is this you're problem: when trying to start, it gets to where XP
splash screen should show up with the little bar moving across, but
you get a black screen instead? If so, I had a new buld with a used,
bad video card doing that. Pulled it, used the motherboard's video,
all ok now.

 

[jmc]

Suddenly, without warning, AM Robertson exclaimed (7/16/2007 4:30 PM):

My newly built PC:
Motherboard: Intel DP965LT motherboard.
BIOS Version: MQ96510J.86A.1612.2006.1227.1513.
CPU: Intel Celeron D 3.06MHz
Memory: Crucial DDR2 1GB PC5300 667MHz, installed at Channel A, DIMM 0 slot.
Single channel. 1024MB memory shown in BIOS.
Parallel ATA cable connecting:
1. Harddrive: Maxtor 6L040J2, 40GB, IDE ATA, set to master.
2. CD-ROM: NEC 52X CD-ROM drive, IDE ATA, set to slave
Floppy diskette drive.

I am able to boot Microsoft Windows XP bootable CD disc.
I am able to install XP into the hard drive.
I am NOT able to boot XP from hard drive, only black screen.

I am able to boot DOS from floppy and Harddrive.
However, when I boot DOS, I am NOT able to detect the CR-ROM device.

Your advise is much appreciated.

First, if you have any USB devices such as USB keys, card readers or
drives attached, unplug them before booting.

Second, have a look in BIOS and make sure that if there's a boot device
order option, that your boot drive is #1 on the list.

Also, make sure your hard drive and CDRom are on the correct connectors
on your IDE cable. You could set 'em both to "cable select" and see if
that helps.

You're booting DOS from the HD? Does that mean you have a dual-boot
system installed, XP and DOS? Maybe your bootloader needs to be edited
(sorry, been too long so I don't remember how).

Have you tried booting into Safe Mode? If so, it's probably a driver issue.

Last: Might have a bad install. Could try reinstalling XP again, but
try these things first.

Good luck!

jmc

 

[John McGaw]

My newly built PC:
Motherboard: Intel DP965LT motherboard.
BIOS Version: MQ96510J.86A.1612.2006.1227.1513.
CPU: Intel Celeron D 3.06MHz
Memory: Crucial DDR2 1GB PC5300 667MHz, installed at Channel A, DIMM 0 slot.
Single channel. 1024MB memory shown in BIOS.
Parallel ATA cable connecting:
1. Harddrive: Maxtor 6L040J2, 40GB, IDE ATA, set to master.
2. CD-ROM: NEC 52X CD-ROM drive, IDE ATA, set to slave
Floppy diskette drive.

I am able to boot Microsoft Windows XP bootable CD disc.
I am able to install XP into the hard drive.
I am NOT able to boot XP from hard drive, only black screen.

I am able to boot DOS from floppy and Harddrive.
However, when I boot DOS, I am NOT able to detect the CR-ROM device.

Your advise is much appreciated.

Does your video card have multiple outputs? If so, the system may be
switching to some other output at some point in the boot sequence,
leaving you with a black screen. DAMHIKT!

 

[daytripper]

My newly built PC:
Motherboard: Intel DP965LT motherboard.
BIOS Version: MQ96510J.86A.1612.2006.1227.1513.
CPU: Intel Celeron D 3.06MHz
Memory: Crucial DDR2 1GB PC5300 667MHz, installed at Channel A, DIMM 0 slot.
Single channel. 1024MB memory shown in BIOS.
Parallel ATA cable connecting:
1. Harddrive: Maxtor 6L040J2, 40GB, IDE ATA, set to master.
2. CD-ROM: NEC 52X CD-ROM drive, IDE ATA, set to slave
Floppy diskette drive.

I am able to boot Microsoft Windows XP bootable CD disc.
I am able to install XP into the hard drive.
I am NOT able to boot XP from hard drive, only black screen.

I am able to boot DOS from floppy and Harddrive.
However, when I boot DOS, I am NOT able to detect the CR-ROM device.

Your advise is much appreciated.

Are you certain you don't need to install any platform-specific device drivers
when you get the "Press F6..." message at the beginning of the XP installation
sequence?

/daytripper

 

[Frank McCoy]

In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt daytripper

Are you certain you don't need to install any platform-specific device drivers
when you get the "Press F6..." message at the beginning of the XP installation
sequence?

He says he's got DOS on a separate disk.
THAT disk needs to have a CD-ROM device-driver on it (usually
OAKCDROM.SYS); and a DEVICE= line pointing to the device-driver in his
CONFIG.SYS file on the DOS drive.

Windows, from Win-95 on, doesn't need (or even *want*) an extra
device-driver loaded at the startup. DOS does.

 

[Senex]

My newly built PC:

Motherboard: Intel DP965LT motherboard.
BIOS Version: MQ96510J.86A.1612.2006.1227.1513.
CPU: Intel Celeron D 3.06MHz
Memory: Crucial DDR2 1GB PC5300 667MHz, installed at Channel A, DIMM 0 slot.
Single channel. 1024MB memory shown in BIOS.
Parallel ATA cable connecting:
1. Harddrive: Maxtor 6L040J2, 40GB, IDE ATA, set to master.
2. CD-ROM: NEC 52X CD-ROM drive, IDE ATA, set to slave
Floppy diskette drive.

I am able to boot Microsoft Windows XP bootable CD disc.
I am able to install XP into the hard drive.
I am NOT able to boot XP from hard drive, only black screen.

I am able to boot DOS from floppy and Harddrive.
However, when I boot DOS, I am NOT able to detect the CR-ROM device.

Your advise is much appreciated.

If it is new construction, make sure when you boot to the windows
install screen, delete any existing partition and replace it/them with
the partitioning you desire. Next perform a format then continue with
the installation.

I know this sounds rather dumb but I had the same problem as you have
with a new drive I installed on an HP machine. Seems as though there
was something screwy with the way the drive had been set up by the mfg
or else something ran amuck between the time it left the mfg and got
installed in my machine. The process described is the only way I could
get it to work. Windows seemed to install but it would not boot on
startup.

Hope this helps.

 

[daytripper]

In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt daytripper

He says he's got DOS on a separate disk.
THAT disk needs to have a CD-ROM device-driver on it (usually
OAKCDROM.SYS); and a DEVICE= line pointing to the device-driver in his
CONFIG.SYS file on the DOS drive.

Windows, from Win-95 on, doesn't need (or even *want*) an extra
device-driver loaded at the startup. DOS does.

As anyone that installs unique boot path hardware not covered by drivers on
the OS disk understands, hardware released after a major OS release point is
unlikely to find proper drivers on the OS installation disk.

One can go through the XP installation process to the point that the user is
requested to remove the installation media and reboot the system, and end up
with a black screen. Been there, did that, went through the installation the
second time, pressed F6, loaded the drivers for the raid card from a separate
CD, completed the installation and booted the new OS from the raid set
successfully.

Which is why I was asking....

/daytripper

 

[kony]

When booting DOS you must load a CDROM driver. A windows98
boot floppy, for example, will load one. If your drive
isn't compatible with the CDROM driver(s) loaded, seek a
(CDROM) drive-specific driver from the CDROM manufacturer.
Once upon a time ago, CDROM drives also had a floppy or CD
in the package that contained a DOS driver but today I
wouldn't be surprised if they did not.

One can go through the XP installation process to the point that the user is
requested to remove the installation media and reboot the system, and end up
with a black screen. Been there, did that, went through the installation the
second time, pressed F6, loaded the drivers for the raid card from a separate
CD, completed the installation and booted the new OS from the raid set
successfully.

No supplimental driver should be needed for windows to boot
from the PATA drive, unless it is provided by a discrete
chip on the board, a separate drive controller.

If this board is using the original bios I would update the
bios.

 

[Frank McCoy]

In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt daytripper

As anyone that installs unique boot path hardware not covered by drivers on
the OS disk understands, hardware released after a major OS release point is
unlikely to find proper drivers on the OS installation disk.

One can go through the XP installation process to the point that the user is
requested to remove the installation media and reboot the system, and end up
with a black screen. Been there, did that, went through the installation the
second time, pressed F6, loaded the drivers for the raid card from a separate
CD, completed the installation and booted the new OS from the raid set
successfully.

Which is why I was asking....

Yes, that's right ... But he gets CD-ROM stuff with Windows.
He *doesn't* when booting a DOS disk.
*NOBODY* gets CD-ROM support under DOS without having a CD-ROM driver
installed. The commonest (as I said) being OAKCDROM.SYS.
However, just about all installation disks come with a fairly complete
set of CD-ROM drivers for various kinds of CD drives such as ATAPI and
SCSI. They even come with an automatic selection-program that tries
each until one works.

My old Win-98 boot disk includes:
oakcdrom.sys
btdosm.sys
flashpt.sys
btcdrom.sys
aspi2dos.sys
aspi8dos.sys
aspi4dos.sys
aspi8u2.sys
and:
aspicd.sys

The various ASPI?DOS.SYS programs being mainly for various types of SCSI
drives; all usually needing the ASPICD.SYS driver besides.

However, since *most* people have pretty standard ATA CD-ROM drives
hooked up to the same controllers as their standard ATA hard-drives,
then those people should probably use OAKCDROM.SYS, as I've said now
three times.

If you have (like you say *you* do) non-standard drives with a
non-standard interface, then of course you'll have to install a
non-standard device-driver for it!

However, *usually* you don't need (nor even want) such a device-driver
loaded if you're going to be running Window-98 or later. Only if
Windows doesn't automatically install such a driver (like happened with
you) or ... as in this case ... Your intent is to run DOS on a separate
drive.

Geesh!
With Win-95 and Win-98 (You can't do it with Win-XP and above), if you
want to "Boot to DOS" instead of restarting Windows, then you need to
add the extra line to the CONFIG.SYS file from within Windows; so that
it ends up with the line remarked-out as "Removed by Windows Install"
when booting normally, and yet put back during DOS boot.

The way to do that *automatically*, is to have the device-driver load in
the CONFIG.SYS file when doing the installation. Windows INSTALL will
then remark-out the line while booting; but put it back in if you Boot
to DOS. Thus you'll get the CD-ROM driver put in when running DOS, but
not when booting direct to Windows.

However, if just running DOS from a separate disk, you put the
device-driver in CONFIG.SYS in the root of that disk like I suggested.

Clear?

 

[daytripper]

In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt daytripper

Yes, that's right ... But he gets CD-ROM stuff with Windows.
He *doesn't* when booting a DOS disk.

[many many words...]

Note the OP's actual "problem" has nothing to do with having a CDROM available
in DOS. And even if he manages to get the CDROM working under a DOS boot
(which is incredibly trivial to manage), it *still* won't help him fix his
problem.

Which is why I didn't even bother to mention anything about DOS.

Clear?

/daytripper