Ultimate: machine restarts spontaneously..

[maya]

hi, b/c of problems I've been having with Vista I recently reconfigured
it so I choose when and what updates to install.. so about two days I
installed some updates, and whadddayaknow -- since I installed them
again am having problems (Windows Media Center crashes, the machine
restarts spontaneously.. what else is new....

the last time my machine was restarting spontaneously I asked here about
it and was told:

Open Control Panel/System/Advanced System Settings/Startup and Recovery.
Click the Settings Button. In the System Failure section, remove the
check mark from the "Automatically Restart" option.
Apply/OK.

however, the "Automatically Restart" option is already turned off, and
my machine is still restarting spontaneously... so what can I do about
this now??

thank you..

 

[Frank]

hi, b/c of problems I've been having with Vista I recently reconfigured
it so I choose when and what updates to install.. so about two days I
installed some updates, and whadddayaknow -- since I installed them
again am having problems (Windows Media Center crashes, the machine
restarts spontaneously.. what else is new....

the last time my machine was restarting spontaneously I asked here about
it and was told:

Open Control Panel/System/Advanced System Settings/Startup and Recovery.
Click the Settings Button. In the System Failure section, remove the
check mark from the "Automatically Restart" option.
Apply/OK.

however, the "Automatically Restart" option is already turned off, and
my machine is still restarting spontaneously... so what can I do about
this now??

thank you..

Didn't you say you were switching to MAC's?
Frank

 

[maya]

Didn't you say you were switching to MAC's?
Frank

well but of coooourse Frank.... since I have unlimited funds at my
disposal I already went and purchased a brand new mac... thank you for
your very helpful response....

 

[maya]

well but of coooourse Frank.... since I have unlimited funds at my
disposal I already went and purchased a brand new mac... thank you for
your very helpful response....

my machine is restarting spontaneously every half hour or so now, this
is extremely disruptive and annoying... I would appreciate some help...

thank you.....

 

[the wharf rat]

again am having problems (Windows Media Center crashes, the machine
restarts spontaneously.. what else is new....

Unexpected crashes followed by immediate restarts almost always
indicates a hardware problem. I'd look at memory, power supply, and mother-
board in that order...

 

[Frank]

my machine is restarting spontaneously every half hour or so now, this
is extremely disruptive and annoying... I would appreciate some help...

thank you.....

Generally that indicates a hardware problem...even overheating. Are you
oc'ing by any chance?
Frank

 

[maya]

Generally that indicates a hardware problem...even overheating. Are you
oc'ing by any chance?
Frank

hmmm.. I rather doubt it... it's pretty much every half hour, as if it
were timed, and it did start right after the latest update installs..

 

[Frank]

maya wrote:

hmmm.. I rather doubt it...

Question was are you overcocking the CPU, memory or your video card?
Overclocking, if not properly done can cause this type of behavior.

it's pretty much every half hour,

Sure sounds to me like a heat problem. Are all of your fans working
properly? When was the last time you cleaned all of the dust & dirt from
your fans and heatsinks?

as if it

were timed, and it did start right after the latest update installs..

Well, do a system restore to before you installed the updates and see if
that makes a difference. That will ever confirm or eliminate then
updates as the cause.
Let us know.
Frank

 

[ALVARO DE CASTRO VASCONCELLOS]

hi!
You forgot the re-start the windows. You changed the system so it is
necessary re-start your computer.
If you no re-start, the new condition return for old condition. No change.

 

[maya]

Unexpected crashes followed by immediate restarts almost always
indicates a hardware problem. I'd look at memory, power supply, and mother-
board in that order...

so all of a sudden after I install latest updates my memory, power
supply, and motherboard are not working right... gee, I didn't know
those updates could do THAT MUCH damage....

 

[maya]

Generally that indicates a hardware problem...even overheating. Are you
oc'ing by any chance?
Frank

yeah, Frank, all of a sudden after installing latest updates my machine
is overheating... I didn't know updates could do THAT MUCH to my
machine... (do u mean overclocking? nope..)

 

[maya]

hi!
You forgot the re-start the windows. You changed the system so it is
necessary re-start your computer.
If you no re-start, the new condition return for old condition. No change.

I forgot to restart windows????? the machine is restarting ITSELF every
30 minutes.....

 

[Frank]

yeah, Frank, all of a sudden after installing latest updates my machine
is overheating... I didn't know updates could do THAT MUCH to my
machine... (do u mean overclocking? nope..)

Updates don't cause overheating. That is a hardware problem.
Frank

 

[maya]

Updates don't cause overheating. That is a hardware problem.
Frank

and who said this problem was caused by overheating?? just you,
Frank.... once again: this problem has NOTHING to do w/my hardware,
this problem started RIGHT AFTER I INSTALLED LATEST WINDOWS UPDATES FROM
MICROSOFT... as hard as you may find it to believe this, Frank.....

 

[Frank]

and who said this problem was caused by overheating??

Ahhh...you did?..."yeah, Frank, all of a sudden after installing latest
updates my machine is overheating..."

just you,

Frank....

once again: this problem has NOTHING to do w/my hardware,

this problem started RIGHT AFTER I INSTALLED LATEST WINDOWS UPDATES FROM
MICROSOFT... as hard as you may find it to believe this, Frank.....

Well, did you do a system restore to before you installed the updates?
Frank

 

[the wharf rat]

so all of a sudden after I install latest updates my memory, power
supply, and motherboard are not working right...

No, you had a bad component or have a newly failed component that
became badly enough out of spec coincidentally with the upgrade. See if
you can peer through that fog of self-satisfied sarcasm long enough to
realize that chronological order has no implications for causation.

It's also entirely possible that you have a component that only
failed after the upgrade because the demands on the system have changed.
A common example of this is a system with bad memory that doesn't get
accessed until a lot of programs are loaded (the bad bit is high up in RAM).

It's certainly possible that the update is causing some strange
problem but that's easily tested. Have you rolled back to a restore
point taken before the update was applied to see if the problem goes away?
That would be a good idea. If it wouldn't take too much time out of
your whining, that is.

 

[maya]

No, you had a bad component or have a newly failed component that
became badly enough out of spec coincidentally with the upgrade. See if
you can peer through that fog of self-satisfied sarcasm long enough to
realize that chronological order has no implications for causation.

It's also entirely possible that you have a component that only
failed after the upgrade because the demands on the system have changed.
A common example of this is a system with bad memory that doesn't get
accessed until a lot of programs are loaded (the bad bit is high up in RAM).

It's certainly possible that the update is causing some strange
problem but that's easily tested. Have you rolled back to a restore
point taken before the update was applied to see if the problem goes away?
That would be a good idea. If it wouldn't take too much time out of
your whining, that is.

I had a "bad compontent" -- and you're making this assumption based on??
knowledge of my machine???? I assure you there's nothing
"self-satisfying" or satisfying in any other way -- regarding the many
problems I've had with Vista or all the time I have spent
trouble-shooting these problems...

and by "bad component" you mean exactly which component??? I mean since
you seem to have enough knowledge about my machine to assert I have a
"bad component"???

not sure what you mean by "bad memory" either (I have 4 GB of RAM.. is
this good enough???)

 

[NoStop]

and who said this problem was caused by overheating?? just you,
Frank.... once again: this problem has NOTHING to do w/my hardware,
this problem started RIGHT AFTER I INSTALLED LATEST WINDOWS UPDATES FROM
MICROSOFT... as hard as you may find it to believe this, Frank.....

Francis has a hard time facing reality. He's THE Usenet Village Idiot. Best
you just ignore his technical advice. He knows bugger all about computers
generally and Vista in particular.

Cheers.

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[maya]

Francis has a hard time facing reality. He's THE Usenet Village Idiot. Best
you just ignore his technical advice. He knows bugger all about computers
generally and Vista in particular.

Cheers.

thanks for all responses... this has been solved, just restored system
to about 2 days before I installed latest updates and voila -- problem
solved.. so my question is: that update is an important one, acc. tod
what it says next to it..
(screenshot of all updates I installed that day here:
http://www.mayacove.com/misc/ss_vista.gif) I installed all of them
except "extras" (but last night, after reverting system back to before
I installed these updates and went to install them again only one update
appeared, not all the ones shown here.. ( I believe it's the Windows
Defender one..) so: what happens with a supposedly "important" update
that messes up your system? I can't install an update that makes my
machine restart every hour!! (it's every hour, actually, not every 30
mins, it just felt like that.... but it's exactly every hour..)

thanks...