U Gurus giving up? I need to figure this out.

B

ButtCrack

Well, maybe that is my Symantec install problem. You are right, I LOVE their
products, but they cause some F&%Ked up problems sometimes when installing.

Where do i go to check how my temp file is being used?

Thank you!

PLUS, Windows STILL will not create a pagefile on C:. SYSTEM has full
control. Registry is right.
 
E

Emmers Presson [MSFT]

1. Right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.

2. Click the Advanced tab, and then click Environment Variables.

3. Edit all instances of the TMP and TEMP environment variables so that

they point to a valid folder to which you have access.

4. Click OK until all dialog boxes are closed.

5. Verify that the folder used for the TMP and TEMP environment

variables is accessible, has enough free space, and if located on an

NTFS volume, your user quota is not exceeded.



What exactly is the error message you receive when you attempt to create a
paging file on C:? Try these steps:



1. Right-click "My Computer", and then click "Properties".

2. In the "System Properties" dialog box, click "Advanced"

3. Click "Performance Options".

4. In the "Virtual memory" pane, click "Change" to increase the paging

file. Windows 2000 requires an Initial value of 126 MB for debugging.

5. Set the initial and maximum size to your RAM or 4 GB if you have more
than 4 GB of RAM and click "Set", and then click "OK".

6. In the "System Control Panel Applet" dialog box, click "OK" to the
following message:

The changes you have made require you to restart your computer before

they can take effect.

7. Click "OK" to close the "Performance Options" dialog box, and then

click "OK" to close the "System Properties" dialog box.

8. When you are prompted to restart your computer, click "Yes".
 
B

ButtCrack

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

I will check that temp location out and see if it helps me install Syamntec
Antivirus, then post the results

I am NOT getting an error about the pagefile. There just is none after doing
what you said, many times. And if I remove the pagfile from the other 2
drives, and leave it one C:, Windows has to reboot into Safe mode because it
doesn't have enough memory, thus verifing the pagefile is non-existant on
that drive.

The whole drive has "System" as a user with FULL CONTROL, and NO quota is
set.

????

Emmers Presson said:
1. Right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.

2. Click the Advanced tab, and then click Environment Variables.

3. Edit all instances of the TMP and TEMP environment variables so that

they point to a valid folder to which you have access.

4. Click OK until all dialog boxes are closed.

5. Verify that the folder used for the TMP and TEMP environment

variables is accessible, has enough free space, and if located on an

NTFS volume, your user quota is not exceeded.



What exactly is the error message you receive when you attempt to create a
paging file on C:? Try these steps:



1. Right-click "My Computer", and then click "Properties".

2. In the "System Properties" dialog box, click "Advanced"

3. Click "Performance Options".

4. In the "Virtual memory" pane, click "Change" to increase the paging

file. Windows 2000 requires an Initial value of 126 MB for debugging.

5. Set the initial and maximum size to your RAM or 4 GB if you have more
than 4 GB of RAM and click "Set", and then click "OK".

6. In the "System Control Panel Applet" dialog box, click "OK" to the
following message:

The changes you have made require you to restart your computer before

they can take effect.

7. Click "OK" to close the "Performance Options" dialog box, and then

click "OK" to close the "System Properties" dialog box.

8. When you are prompted to restart your computer, click "Yes".


--
Emmers Presson [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

ButtCrack said:
Well, maybe that is my Symantec install problem. You are right, I LOVE their
products, but they cause some F&%Ked up problems sometimes when installing.

Where do i go to check how my temp file is being used?

Thank you!

PLUS, Windows STILL will not create a pagefile on C:. SYSTEM has full
control. Registry is right.



enterprise, pagefile
on
 
E

Emmers Presson [MSFT]

What's the history on this paging file issue? Have you always had this
problem on this computer? If not, what changed? If yes, how was the OS
installed on this computer?

Here are some general ideas:

- Run Disk Defragmenter on C: to defragment the drive.
- Check out the following artricle:

242447 Changes to Paging File Settings Are Not Retained
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=242447

- Install SP4 (if not already installed.

- Use the following article if the drive letters have changed:

812448 "Limited Virtual Memory" Error Message When You Start Your Computer
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=812448

- 140472 PRB: Limited Virtual Memory Error When Starting Windows NT
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=140472

--
Emmers Presson [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

ButtCrack said:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

I will check that temp location out and see if it helps me install Syamntec
Antivirus, then post the results

I am NOT getting an error about the pagefile. There just is none after doing
what you said, many times. And if I remove the pagfile from the other 2
drives, and leave it one C:, Windows has to reboot into Safe mode because it
doesn't have enough memory, thus verifing the pagefile is non-existant on
that drive.

The whole drive has "System" as a user with FULL CONTROL, and NO quota is
set.

????

Emmers Presson said:
1. Right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.

2. Click the Advanced tab, and then click Environment Variables.

3. Edit all instances of the TMP and TEMP environment variables so that

they point to a valid folder to which you have access.

4. Click OK until all dialog boxes are closed.

5. Verify that the folder used for the TMP and TEMP environment

variables is accessible, has enough free space, and if located on an

NTFS volume, your user quota is not exceeded.



What exactly is the error message you receive when you attempt to create a
paging file on C:? Try these steps:



1. Right-click "My Computer", and then click "Properties".

2. In the "System Properties" dialog box, click "Advanced"

3. Click "Performance Options".

4. In the "Virtual memory" pane, click "Change" to increase the paging

file. Windows 2000 requires an Initial value of 126 MB for debugging.

5. Set the initial and maximum size to your RAM or 4 GB if you have more
than 4 GB of RAM and click "Set", and then click "OK".

6. In the "System Control Panel Applet" dialog box, click "OK" to the
following message:

The changes you have made require you to restart your computer before

they can take effect.

7. Click "OK" to close the "Performance Options" dialog box, and then

click "OK" to close the "System Properties" dialog box.

8. When you are prompted to restart your computer, click "Yes".


--
Emmers Presson [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

ButtCrack said:
Well, maybe that is my Symantec install problem. You are right, I LOVE their
products, but they cause some F&%Ked up problems sometimes when installing.

Where do i go to check how my temp file is being used?

Thank you!

PLUS, Windows STILL will not create a pagefile on C:. SYSTEM has full
control. Registry is right.



I know, that is how it was, but installing Symantec Antivirus enterprise,
it
came up with an error, "Not enough disk space" while installing to a
drive
that had 30GB free. Symantec's website says you have to have a pagefile
on
C:.

Sorry, I couldn't find this information at Symantec. The only web page
I found is telling

====
The Windows swap file. This should be managed by Windows unless you
have experience managing Windows configuration and performance
components.
====

Symantec is known for some strange installation traps.
Make sure there is plenty of free space on drive C: (no matter if used
as installation path or not). Where does %TEMP% point to? Maybe it's a
good idea to move it to M: or N:

Ciao, Walter
 
B

ButtCrack

Again, THANK YOU!

After installing the OS, I originally place the swap file on the M: & N:
(The other 2 physical drives) and removed it from C:

Everything worked great.

When I had this Syamntec install problem, I thought it said the SWAP file
had to be on C:, well, someone pointed out it said the "Temp" folder. I have
not had time to verify.

Still, it made me attempt to create a Pagefile on C:, that is how I found
out, no matter what I do, it won't craete one, and it doesn't give me any
errors, it just won'y create a pagefile. I verified it wasn't creating one
by searching for it (yes I know it is hidden) and found one only on the M:
nd N: drives. After removing them, Windows can't start. It says I have to
create a larger pagefile.

So I am wokin' on 2 problem here, one just revealed the other. I will try to
point the temp file to C: as Symantec says. BTW_The error I was getting
installing Symantec Antivirus was, "not enough disk space". I was instaling
it on one of my secondary drives with 30GB free.

HERE IS WHAT THE REGISTRY KEY IS AT NOW:

Key Name: SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory
Management
Class Name: <NO CLASS>
Last Write Time: 12/29/2003 - 1:50 PM
Value 0
Name: ClearPageFileAtShutdown
Type: REG_DWORD
Data: 0

Value 1
Name: DisablePagingExecutive
Type: REG_DWORD
Data: 0

Value 2
Name: IoPageLockLimit
Type: REG_DWORD
Data: 0

Value 3
Name: LargeSystemCache
Type: REG_DWORD
Data: 0

Value 4
Name: NonPagedPoolQuota
Type: REG_DWORD
Data: 0

Value 5
Name: NonPagedPoolSize
Type: REG_DWORD
Data: 0

Value 6
Name: PagedPoolQuota
Type: REG_DWORD
Data: 0

Value 7
Name: PagedPoolSize
Type: REG_DWORD
Data: 0

Value 8
Name: PagingFiles
Type: REG_MULTI_SZ
Data: C:\winnt\pagefile.sys 190 450
M:\pagefile.sys 190 400
N:\pagefile.sys 190 400


Value 9
Name: PhysicalAddressExtension
Type: REG_DWORD
Data: 0

Value 10
Name: SecondLevelDataCache
Type: REG_DWORD
Data: 0

Value 11
Name: SystemPages
Type: REG_DWORD
Data: 0

Value 12
Name: WriteWatch
Type: REG_DWORD
Data: 0x1



============================================================================
====================



Emmers Presson said:
What's the history on this paging file issue? Have you always had this
problem on this computer? If not, what changed? If yes, how was the OS
installed on this computer?

Here are some general ideas:

- Run Disk Defragmenter on C: to defragment the drive.
- Check out the following artricle:

242447 Changes to Paging File Settings Are Not Retained
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=242447

- Install SP4 (if not already installed.

- Use the following article if the drive letters have changed:

812448 "Limited Virtual Memory" Error Message When You Start Your Computer
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=812448

- 140472 PRB: Limited Virtual Memory Error When Starting Windows NT
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=140472

--
Emmers Presson [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

ButtCrack said:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

I will check that temp location out and see if it helps me install Syamntec
Antivirus, then post the results

I am NOT getting an error about the pagefile. There just is none after doing
what you said, many times. And if I remove the pagfile from the other 2
drives, and leave it one C:, Windows has to reboot into Safe mode
because
it
doesn't have enough memory, thus verifing the pagefile is non-existant on
that drive.

The whole drive has "System" as a user with FULL CONTROL, and NO quota is
set.

????
create
a
paging file on C:? Try these steps:



1. Right-click "My Computer", and then click "Properties".

2. In the "System Properties" dialog box, click "Advanced"

3. Click "Performance Options".

4. In the "Virtual memory" pane, click "Change" to increase the paging

file. Windows 2000 requires an Initial value of 126 MB for debugging.

5. Set the initial and maximum size to your RAM or 4 GB if you have more
than 4 GB of RAM and click "Set", and then click "OK".

6. In the "System Control Panel Applet" dialog box, click "OK" to the
following message:

The changes you have made require you to restart your computer before

they can take effect.

7. Click "OK" to close the "Performance Options" dialog box, and then

click "OK" to close the "System Properties" dialog box.

8. When you are prompted to restart your computer, click "Yes".


--
Emmers Presson [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Well, maybe that is my Symantec install problem. You are right, I LOVE
their
products, but they cause some F&%Ked up problems sometimes when
installing.

Where do i go to check how my temp file is being used?

Thank you!

PLUS, Windows STILL will not create a pagefile on C:. SYSTEM has full
control. Registry is right.



I know, that is how it was, but installing Symantec Antivirus
enterprise,
it
came up with an error, "Not enough disk space" while installing
to
it's
 

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