typing Classical Greek

G

grammatim

Many, many pages at MS point to a link for downloading a 1 Mb file
that (presumably) shows the key-sequences for typing Greek with all
the accents, breathings, etc., but clicking that link takes you to a
page saying the wanted page does not exist.

Does anyone have a copy of that document they could email to me?

(I also got a keyboard layout diagram that shows dead keys and the
Greek names of the accents etc. that they produce, but that doesn't
tell me the English names I know them by, and it doesn't say what
order to type them in to get multiple ones on a single letter.)
 
B

Bob Buckland ?:-\)

Hi Tim,

What version of Word/Windows are you using and what is the link that is broken? A Microsoft page that shows a graphic of each of
the Windows language specific keyboard layouts is available at
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/keyboards.mspx

The basic procedure for installing Greek language support in Windows XP is described in a number of places, including

http://www.biblicalgreek.org/links/fonts/keyboard.html
On this page look in Section 2 'Typing in Unicode Greek'
at the 'Unicode Keyboard' and 'Early Christian Writing' pages (among others) for links to classical greek utilities and fonts.

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Many, many pages at MS point to a link for downloading a 1 Mb file
that (presumably) shows the key-sequences for typing Greek with all
the accents, breathings, etc., but clicking that link takes you to a
page saying the wanted page does not exist.
Does anyone have a copy of that document they could email to me?

(I also got a keyboard layout diagram that shows dead keys and the
Greek names of the accents etc. that they produce, but that doesn't
tell me the English names I know them by, and it doesn't say what
order to type them in to get multiple ones on a single letter.) >>
--

Bob Buckland ?:)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
 
G

grammatim

The most useful page that I found with google is
http://www.doaks.org/publications/unicodegreekguide.pdf

It was one of the places that gave me http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/wrg_redirect.asp?URL=polytonic

which is the page that no longer exists. (I also got to it from within
MS's incredibly convoluted website.)

From this page http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/perspectives/polytonic.mspx

I learn that the file I (probably) need is called The Greek Polytonic
System.doc, and it's 1 Mb.

What is the link (before it resolves to "Page not found")? And have you seen
the title of the article anywhere?

Also, is the article "WD2000: General Information about the Microsoft Visual
Keyboard" athttp://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=241125at all helpful?

That looks like a much older item -- in XP Pro it's called On-Screen
Keyboard, and it works very well (so well that I can now type my
Bblical Greek examples from the keyboard, except that I still have to
go back and pick out the accented letters from Insert Symbol!).

But again, it doesn't reveal the keystrokes -- just like, if you
didn't have a written-out list, you wouldn't know that you get umlauts
by typing Ctrl-Shift-Colon, then the vowel (cap or lc)

Which reminds me ... a Windows, not a Word, question, but a friend can
put buttons for useful things down on the taskbar by simply dragging
icons onto it, but when I drag an icon down there, it gets a "Do Not
Enter" icon and nothing happens, so I have to get my On-Screen
Keyboard from the Start menu, which is lots of extra mousing and
clicking. Are there different grades of XP Pro?
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

I can't help with the Greek part, but you can drag buttons for applications
(and perhaps other things) onto the Quick Launch bar on the Windows Taskbar.
Do you have the QL bar activated?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

The most useful page that I found with google is
http://www.doaks.org/publications/unicodegreekguide.pdf

It was one of the places that gave me
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/wrg_redirect.asp?URL=polytonic

which is the page that no longer exists. (I also got to it from within
MS's incredibly convoluted website.)

From this page
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/perspectives/polytonic.mspx

I learn that the file I (probably) need is called The Greek Polytonic
System.doc, and it's 1 Mb.

What is the link (before it resolves to "Page not found")? And have you
seen
the title of the article anywhere?

Also, is the article "WD2000: General Information about the Microsoft
Visual
Keyboard" athttp://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=241125at all helpful?

That looks like a much older item -- in XP Pro it's called On-Screen
Keyboard, and it works very well (so well that I can now type my
Bblical Greek examples from the keyboard, except that I still have to
go back and pick out the accented letters from Insert Symbol!).

But again, it doesn't reveal the keystrokes -- just like, if you
didn't have a written-out list, you wouldn't know that you get umlauts
by typing Ctrl-Shift-Colon, then the vowel (cap or lc)

Which reminds me ... a Windows, not a Word, question, but a friend can
put buttons for useful things down on the taskbar by simply dragging
icons onto it, but when I drag an icon down there, it gets a "Do Not
Enter" icon and nothing happens, so I have to get my On-Screen
Keyboard from the Start menu, which is lots of extra mousing and
clicking. Are there different grades of XP Pro?
 
B

Bob Buckland ?:-\)

Hi grammatim,

The Microsoft document is available from
http://download.microsoft.com/downl...a-f04a82bf623e/The Greek Polytonic System.doc

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The most useful page that I found with google is
http://www.doaks.org/publications/unicodegreekguide.pdf

It was one of the places that gave me http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/wrg_redirect.asp?URL=polytonic

which is the page that no longer exists. (I also got to it from within
MS's incredibly convoluted website.)

From this page http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/perspectives/polytonic.mspx

I learn that the file I (probably) need is called The Greek Polytonic
System.doc, and it's 1 Mb. <<
--

Bob Buckland ?:)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
 
G

grammatim

Thanks -- that's exactly what I need. How did you find it, and will
they fix the links to it?
 
G

grammatim

I'd never heard of it, but given the secret code name "Quick Launch,"
I immediately found it in the index of my XP book (which was the only
one available, and that only as a remainder, back in October, after
they'd started trying to impose Vista on everyone) and will get it
fired up ASAP.

Thanks very much!!

Two solutions in one thread. Wow.
 

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