two XP Pro Machines, a ethernet hub, cable modem, and 1 cant conne

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Guest

I am truely sorry to bother everyone here, as I see this networking thing has
been an issue for alot of people.
I have to say I have never had this problem at all in the last 5 years till
I JUST added my wifes computer to the ethernet hub/ home network on charter
cable.

my comp has no issues. It can see hers, and when available, it can browse
hers.
I have shipped files back and forth using my pc without a hitch.

Problem is I do not have a default gateway or whatnot. I try to renew and
it cannot renew. (amd xp 3200, Asrock upgrafe kt880, 1 gig ddr 400, 2
different ethernets I have tried, xp pr (just installed it, no updates yet,
pre SP1))

i have reset tcp stack and been over many how tos in other sections of
support site, tried it all, no where can I find how to enable DHCP (automatic
IP configurator on that PC) because it shows on reports that its off.

I have ripped this network apart 5 times, tried a strait connect to the
modem, eliminating the hub and still had the same results.

Please help if possible.

Another thing, look at the screenshot I took when I opened ( regedit ) this
is what I got. A dos box with weird hearts and upside down looking spades (i
can only say it looks like alien language) and an error popped up with it,
you can see it on the screenshot as well. http://www.mykismit.com/1.JPG Its a
JPG, but help would be great as I feel like i cant get the network up because
someone else has control of my pc and blocks the other pc.
 
G

Guest

yeah the pic showed up. YAY. Can someone tell me how that happened, and what
it is and how I can fix it?
I am pretty worried now, because I fear the worse. I have, spysweeper, ad
aware pro, norton anti 2002 and i have blocked spyware and things, but
nothing tramatic.

thanks in advance.

Shane Oswald
 
Q

Quaoar

not said:
I am truely sorry to bother everyone here, as I see this networking
thing has been an issue for alot of people.
I have to say I have never had this problem at all in the last 5
years till I JUST added my wifes computer to the ethernet hub/ home
network on charter cable.

my comp has no issues. It can see hers, and when available, it can
browse hers.
I have shipped files back and forth using my pc without a hitch.

Problem is I do not have a default gateway or whatnot. I try to
renew and it cannot renew. (amd xp 3200, Asrock upgrafe kt880, 1 gig
ddr 400, 2 different ethernets I have tried, xp pr (just installed
it, no updates yet, pre SP1))

i have reset tcp stack and been over many how tos in other sections of
support site, tried it all, no where can I find how to enable DHCP
(automatic IP configurator on that PC) because it shows on reports
that its off.

I have ripped this network apart 5 times, tried a strait connect to
the modem, eliminating the hub and still had the same results.

Please help if possible.

Another thing, look at the screenshot I took when I opened ( regedit
) this is what I got. A dos box with weird hearts and upside down
looking spades (i can only say it looks like alien language) and an
error popped up with it, you can see it on the screenshot as well.
http://www.mykismit.com/1.JPG Its a JPG, but help would be great as I
feel like i cant get the network up because someone else has control
of my pc and blocks the other pc.

The first problem is that unless you have paid for two IP addresses on
Charter, you cannot connect two computers with a hub since the hub is
essentially a direct connection from each computer to the modem and that
won't work well.

The second problem is that when you direct connect a different computer
to the modem, you *must* power-cycle the modem (remove the power for a
minute) to clear the MAC address table so that the new, single, computer
can be connected. The modem recognizes only the number of computers you
subsribe to and in the usual case it is one only and it thinks the
permitted MAC address is the first one it sees.

So, to get back on track with the internet, remove the hub and
direct-connect one computer at a time to the modem, after power-cycling
the modem before each connection or re-connection.

Correct your networking problems on each computer. Then with $50 (or
much less, depending on current price and rebates) in hand, go to a big
box electronics store and purchase a four port broadband router to
replace the hub in your network. Be sure to power cycle the modem
before connecting the router since it is a device with a MAC address
just like a computer.

Then connect each computer to the router and you will (hopefully, since
the networking has been previously fixed) have a two computer network
with internet access to each.

Q
 
G

Guest

The first problem is that unless you have paid for two IP addresses on
Charter, you cannot connect two computers with a hub since the hub is
essentially a direct connection from each computer to the modem and that
won't work well.
=======================

I have talked to charter support, and they say that a hub should most
deffinetly work. I have had charter internet for nearly 5 years now and had
a private storage server running on it along with our home computer. Never
had an issue.

Charter also said that with a network hub that can handle 8 computers like
mine can, I should not have any problem at all with it handeling two
computers through the same IP.

It takes the regular IP from charter and sets that as the gateway, and then
gives each computer its own virtual (network ) ip to use within the network.

Problem I am having is it the networking software in Windows, is not
allowing the LAN/NIC card card to get its own set of nic addresses.

Even if I switch off my first computer and completly remove it from the
network, cables and all, power down the cable modem, power down the hub, and
the computer I am having problems with, then rebooting all of them one at a
time (have tried modem, then cpu, then hub and reversed and a few other ways)
and still nothing. Will not assign the proper stuff to that computer.

So i pulled out my file server with win xp pro on it after i completly
re-powered the whole network, and plugged in that server on XP PRO (not real
server software, just XP PRO with software directing to virtual folders for
files) and It immediatly connected and I was surfing the internet.

LOL so, thanks for your help. Any more ideas???
 
G

Guest

I forgot to mention that this hub can navigate the network, no need for a
router, its built in.
 
Q

Quaoar

not said:
I forgot to mention that this hub can navigate the network, no need
for a router, its built in.

So is it a hub, a switch, or a router? Your problems appear to me to be
related to one IP available and more than one computer connected.

A NAT router will permit multiple connections to one IP address. If you
are convinced that you can simultaneously connect to a single IP address
with more than one computer connected to a hub or switch on charter then
my work here is done.
 

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