Two separate (?) problems - printer and file sharing

[Kemps]

I haven't yet found the answers to these problems, so . . . we have
two laptops and two desktops on a wireless home network, one each
Vista and one each XP. I'm trying to establish full sharing amongst
the user community (me and my children) and can't even get the Vista
devices to recognize each other.

The specific problems:

1) The Vista laptop can "see" C:\ on the Vista desktop, but cannot
access it ("access denied"). This despite setting desktop C:\ sharing
to "Share". Where should I go for clues to fix this?
2) The Vista laptop can "see" a Lexmark printer connected to the
Vista desktop, but cannot print to it (a password dialog box comes up,
despite not having password protection enabled on the desktop). Where
should I go for clues to fix this?

I'm semi-dreading fixing these problems, since my next step will be to
get the two XP devices to recognize everything too.

Thanks for whatever help you can give me -

 

[Robert L [MVP - Networking]]

1. Enabling share is not good enough. You may need to assign permission in the Security tab.
2. Have you installed printer driver for Vista?
These links may help,

Vista Permission IssuesPost Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: How to: check permissions using Vista icacls command, Reply with quote . ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapermission.htm


Vista Print Issues2007 1:54 am Post subject: Losing Networked Printer in Vista ... so just to share my ... Vista: printer causes explorer to crash ... I have connected to the ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistaprint.htm


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
I haven't yet found the answers to these problems, so . . . we have
two laptops and two desktops on a wireless home network, one each
Vista and one each XP. I'm trying to establish full sharing amongst
the user community (me and my children) and can't even get the Vista
devices to recognize each other.

The specific problems:

1) The Vista laptop can "see" C:\ on the Vista desktop, but cannot
access it ("access denied"). This despite setting desktop C:\ sharing
to "Share". Where should I go for clues to fix this?
2) The Vista laptop can "see" a Lexmark printer connected to the
Vista desktop, but cannot print to it (a password dialog box comes up,
despite not having password protection enabled on the desktop). Where
should I go for clues to fix this?

I'm semi-dreading fixing these problems, since my next step will be to
get the two XP devices to recognize everything too.

Thanks for whatever help you can give me -

 

[Kemps]

1. Enabling share is not good enough. You may need to assign permission in the Security tab.

I have to consider myself a newbie on this. I'm in the Properties tab
for C:\ on the Vista desktop, and when I enter "Chris" (the user of
the Vista laptop) I am told that "Chris" cannot be found. (If the
links you provided answered this question, I couldn't find that
answer.)

2. Have you installed printer driver for Vista?

The printer in question does not have a Vista driver - according to
Lexmark, the manufacturer. It prints just fine from the Vista
desktop, certainly without a Vista driver. Is there some other
possible mechanism to remove the password requirement? (If the links
you provided answered this question, I couldn't find that answer
either.)

Thanks . . . . and if Vista's capabilities don't at this point extend
to networking Vista computers together, I can handle not working on
this further.

 

[Kemps]

Got another problem too . . . while putzing around more, trying to
print from the laptop, we got a "Active Directory Domain Services
Unavailable" message. This is a little disturbing since there doesn't
seem to be a topic on this message on Usenet . . . now what's up?

Thanks again -

 

[Robert L [MVP - Networking]]

You select Advanced and Find Now to find the username.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com

1. Enabling share is not good enough. You may need to assign permission in the Security tab.

I have to consider myself a newbie on this. I'm in the Properties tab
for C:\ on the Vista desktop, and when I enter "Chris" (the user of
the Vista laptop) I am told that "Chris" cannot be found. (If the
links you provided answered this question, I couldn't find that
answer.)

2. Have you installed printer driver for Vista?

The printer in question does not have a Vista driver - according to
Lexmark, the manufacturer. It prints just fine from the Vista
desktop, certainly without a Vista driver. Is there some other
possible mechanism to remove the password requirement? (If the links
you provided answered this question, I couldn't find that answer
either.)

Thanks . . . . and if Vista's capabilities don't at this point extend
to networking Vista computers together, I can handle not working on
this further.

 

[Guest]

In the Vista computers go into Network Sharing and turn off Password Protected

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx

 

[Kemps]

I am sorry to be a pest, but these problems still exists . . . can
anyone point me in the right direction for the two problems noted
earlier? Has anyone had any success fixing issues like this? If I
have to do something with user setup, is there a web resource, written
for the common user in plain language, that can provide me some hints?

Thanks for any help you can provide.

 

[Kemps]

In the Vista computers go into Network Sharing and turn off Password Protected

Password protected sharing has been off since I set up the two
computers in April. Since then, since there really wasn't much else
to do, I've turned it on and off again with no improvement.

What else can I try?

 

[Kemps]

You select Advanced and Find Now to find the username.

I'm sorry, I cannot find this "Advanced" and "Find Now". Here's what
I do get . . . when I right-click on the drive to be shared (c:\) and
select "Share . . . " I get a five-tab window. On none of these five
tabs (General, Network, Sharing, Security, Customize) appear
"Advanced" or "Find Now". I am logged on as the primary user, which
should be set up for full access.

Even if I do find these buttons or links, I'm still fundamentally
confused. Do I need to set up the laptop user with his own user ID on
the desktop? If so, how do I link the desktop user with the laptop
itself? Again if so, what is the process to set up sharing access?

Thanks for any anti-confusion help you can provide -

 

[Chuck [MVP]]

I haven't yet found the answers to these problems, so . . . we have
two laptops and two desktops on a wireless home network, one each
Vista and one each XP. I'm trying to establish full sharing amongst
the user community (me and my children) and can't even get the Vista
devices to recognize each other.

The specific problems:

1) The Vista laptop can "see" C:\ on the Vista desktop, but cannot
access it ("access denied"). This despite setting desktop C:\ sharing
to "Share". Where should I go for clues to fix this?
2) The Vista laptop can "see" a Lexmark printer connected to the
Vista desktop, but cannot print to it (a password dialog box comes up,
despite not having password protection enabled on the desktop). Where
should I go for clues to fix this?

I'm semi-dreading fixing these problems, since my next step will be to
get the two XP devices to recognize everything too.

Thanks for whatever help you can give me -

Are the XP computers running XP Home, or XP Pro? If Pro, is Simple File Sharing
Enabled or Disabled?
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Simple>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Simple

Be sure to set the Network Location Type on the Vista computers to Private. And
set Password Protected Sharing to match the file sharing setup on the XP
computers.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

 

[Kemps]

Are the XP computers running XP Home, or XP Pro? If Pro, is Simple File Sharing
Enabled or Disabled?

They're XP Home . . . but since I can't even get the two Vista
computers to share I haven't even started trying to bring these in to
the network.

Be sure to set the Network Location Type on the Vista computers to Private. And
set Password Protected Sharing to match the file sharing setup on the XP
computers.

The Network Location Type has been Private from the start.

I did follow the second link you provided, and got to the point of
"Activating an Account Properly for Network Access" - guessing that
Vista won't care that I have password protection off, I figured I'd
best try setting up the Guest account to handle sharing . . . but when
I run the "net user" command, I get

"System error 5 has occurred."
"Access is denied."

I'm back to exactly where I started. What in the world does this
mean?

Thanks -

 

[Chuck [MVP]]

They're XP Home . . . but since I can't even get the two Vista
computers to share I haven't even started trying to bring these in to
the network.


The Network Location Type has been Private from the start.

I did follow the second link you provided, and got to the point of
"Activating an Account Properly for Network Access" - guessing that
Vista won't care that I have password protection off, I figured I'd
best try setting up the Guest account to handle sharing . . . but when
I run the "net user" command, I get

"System error 5 has occurred."
"Access is denied."

I'm back to exactly where I started. What in the world does this
mean?

Thanks -

OK, if your XP is Home edition, you might as well disable Password Protected
Sharing on the Vista computers, and learn to deal with Guest based network
access.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Guest>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Guest

If you're using your Vista computer properly, you'll have to run "net user" as
an administrator.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/06/command-window-in-windows-vista.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/06/command-window-in-windows-vista.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.