Two MS network workgroups on a single PC

A

Armando

I have a laptop PC with only one ethernet port. Sometimes I often connect it
to a
LAN (Switch-Router), sometimes I connect it directly with a ethernet cross
cable to
others PC. Every time I change connection I must reinstall the LAN by using
Windows Wizard.
How can I create, manage and switch two Microsoft Network workgroups in a PC
without uninstalling workgroups every time?

Thanks.
 
R

Ross Durie

The workgroup name doesn't have to be the same and there is NEVER a need to
use the wizard. It probably takes longer to run the wizard than to change
the workgroup name manually anyway.
 
A

Armando

Ross said:
The workgroup name doesn't have to be the same and there is NEVER a
need to use the wizard. It probably takes longer to run the wizard
than to change the workgroup name manually anyway.

I tryed to change Workgroup names from Control Panel - System in both PC but
with no results.

May you be more precise?

Thanks.

 
P

Phil

I think there's a trial period then you have to pay.
The only way that might work in windows without other software would be to
setup to different users. One to connect to each different network.
 
A

Armando

Phil said:
I think there's a trial period then you have to pay.
The only way that might work in windows without other software would
be to setup to different users. One to connect to each different
network.

If this work you had a very great idea!!!
I'll try and I post here the results.

Thanks.
 
A

Armando

Phil said:
The only way that might work in windows without other software would
be to setup to different users. One to connect to each different
network.

I think this not work. I create a new users on each pc giving it a different
(from the former workgroup), I followed the LAN wizard on each pc end it
work but when I reconnect the old lan I must reinstall all (Sigh!).

The only thing I think could work is Network connections - Create new
connections - Advanced connection - Direct connect to an other pc (or Accept
incoming connections) but but it tell me, for Periferal connection, only the
Direct parallel (LPT1). Is possible to use here the ethernet port? How?

Thanks.
 
S

Steve Winograd [MVP]

"Armando" said:
I have a laptop PC with only one ethernet port. Sometimes I often connect it
to a
LAN (Switch-Router), sometimes I connect it directly with a ethernet cross
cable to
others PC. Every time I change connection I must reinstall the LAN by using
Windows Wizard.
How can I create, manage and switch two Microsoft Network workgroups in a PC
without uninstalling workgroups every time?

Thanks.

It shouldn't be necessary to reinstall the LAN or change the workgroup
name, even when connecting to different networks. Windows networking
supports multiple workgroups, and a computer in any workgroup can
access a computer in any other workgroup.

To see all of the workgroups on a network:

1. Click My Network Places.
2. Click "View workgroup computers".
3. Press the Backspace key.

To access another computer, regardless of what workgroup either
computer is in, type the other computer's name in the Start | Run box
in this format:

\\computer
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
A

Armando

Steve Winograd said:
It shouldn't be necessary to reinstall the LAN or change the workgroup
name, even when connecting to different networks. Windows networking
supports multiple workgroups, and a computer in any workgroup can
access a computer in any other workgroup.

To see all of the workgroups on a network:

1. Click My Network Places.
2. Click "View workgroup computers".
3. Press the Backspace key.

To access another computer, regardless of what workgroup either
computer is in, type the other computer's name in the Start | Run box
in this format:

\\computer

Good! First to switch two workgroup I must create their. Now I've a desktop
and a laptop connected via hub and working on a single workgroup. I want to
connect it via cross cable (to try what happen when I go away with my
laptop) by creating a second workgroup on each pc. How can I create a new
workgroup on each without cancel the existing?

Thanks.
 
A

Armando

Steve said:
It shouldn't be necessary to reinstall the LAN or change the workgroup
name, even when connecting to different networks. Windows networking
supports multiple workgroups, and a computer in any workgroup can
access a computer in any other workgroup.

To see all of the workgroups on a network:

1. Click My Network Places.
2. Click "View workgroup computers".
3. Press the Backspace key.

To access another computer, regardless of what workgroup either
computer is in, type the other computer's name in the Start | Run box
in this format:

\\computer

I've two pc connected with a hub and in the same workgroup. When I connect
each other with cross cable i don't see nothing in View workgroup computers.
What's the matter?

Thanks.
 
S

Steve Winograd [MVP]

"Armando" said:
Good! First to switch two workgroup I must create their. Now I've a desktop
and a laptop connected via hub and working on a single workgroup. I want to
connect it via cross cable (to try what happen when I go away with my
laptop) by creating a second workgroup on each pc. How can I create a new
workgroup on each without cancel the existing?

Thanks.

Please read my message again. Workgroups are irrelevant in accessing
other computers. It doesn't matter whether a network contains one,
two, or even multiple workgroups. You should never need to change a
computer's workgroup name.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
A

Armando

Steve said:
Please read my message again. Workgroups are irrelevant in accessing
other computers. It doesn't matter whether a network contains one,
two, or even multiple workgroups. You should never need to change a
computer's workgroup name.

I think the big problem is this. Desktop and Laptop are on lan with switch.
They
have the same workgroup (HOME) and the IP 192.168.1.33/35. When I disconnect
switch and connetc Desktop to Laptop via cross ethernet cable I see they
have the same IP: 0.0.0.0 and I think this the problem for that they don't
view each other.

I have made another test with Switch by changing (from Control Panel -
System) the Laptop workgroup name. So I have the Desktop on HOME and the
Laptop on CROSS workgroups. When I restart the two pc I view only CROSS in
Laptop amd HOME in Desktop and this itsn't good.Before restarting I viewed
two workgroup on both pc. ?!?
I don't understand what do ''Press the Backspace key''. It appears to me to
do nothing.
Even if in "View workgroup computers" I can't see the pc, by using
\\computer I'm able to open pc that I don't view.


Thanks.
 
G

Guest

Hi Armando, Steve, Phil et all:

I have a similar problem with WXPPro: I have a wireless network at home with a specific WorkGroup Name and a Linux Domain at work with another specific Work Group Name. My home network is wireless and I set my notebook up just fine on that network and could see all computers. When I take my notebook to work and connect it to the Linuz Domain Workgroup it seems to destroy the wireless network settings, including the home workgroup name, requiring a system restore to get back to wireless networking.

I have searched everywhere on Windows site for information on running two sepparate networks on a single PC but cannot find any specific instructions. Any ideas - Steve, maybe you could post a MS Question and TEch Bulletin on how to move a pc back/forth from home to office using either two differing MS Networking Workgroups or a DOMAIN and a MS Workgroup. Note - I use two different adapters: Hom = Wireless, WORK = Enet

Regards, Steve J
 

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