Transferring from HD to HD

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Timothy Daniels

Ron Sommer said:
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Use MaxBlast to copy the old C to the new.
Disconnect the old and rejumper the new to Master.
You must do this.
If it doesn't work, you can always connect the old drive.


When you refer to "the old C", you must mean "the entire
contents of the old HD" since the OP has 2 partitions on
his old HD, both of which MaxBlast 4 will copy over to the
new HD according to the documentation linked above.
The OP's question involves what sizes will these partitions
have in the new HD. I don't know the answer to that.

*TimDaniels*
 
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Guest

I have an update. I assumed the errors i reported above were because
programs were still open when i made the copy. So i downloaded the iso of
maxblast4 and booted with it. I copied the First partition of the old HD 'C'
to the 100gb partition in the new HD 'e'. It took ages and when it did it, i
unplugged the old one and plugged the new one is as primary and booted up.
THe xp loading screen came up fine and then when it came to the log in
screent he windows xp logo just came up and it sticks there. Doesnt give my
username and a place for my password, just sticks there?

Im out of ideas now, if need be i could format the 100gb parition on the new
and try again but as it takes so long is there a way to make sure it will
work.

THanks
 
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Timothy Daniels

Point said:
I have an update. I assumed the errors i reported above were because
programs were still open when i made the copy. So i downloaded the iso of
maxblast4 and booted with it. I copied the First partition of the old HD 'C'
to the 100gb partition in the new HD 'e'. It took ages and when it did it, i
unplugged the old one and plugged the new one is as primary and booted up.
THe xp loading screen came up fine and then when it came to the log in
screent he windows xp logo just came up and it sticks there. Doesnt give my
username and a place for my password, just sticks there?

Im out of ideas now, if need be i could format the 100gb parition on the new
and try again but as it takes so long is there a way to make sure it will
work.


In all the cloning utilities that I've used, there is no need to format the
destination partition or HD. The information that is formatting is copied
over as part of the cloning operation. Are you using MaxBlast to copy
just your "C:" partition and not your "D:" partition? That would be
contrary to the documentation for MaxBlast 4 which states that it will
copy all partitions from the source HD.

*TimDaniels*
 
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Guest

Timothy Daniels said:
In all the cloning utilities that I've used, there is no need to format the
destination partition or HD. The information that is formatting is copied
over as part of the cloning operation. Are you using MaxBlast to copy
just your "C:" partition and not your "D:" partition? That would be
contrary to the documentation for MaxBlast 4 which states that it will
copy all partitions from the source HD.

*TimDaniels*

Yea, im using it to copy 'C' which is the old HD with XP on it to 'E' which
is the new 100gb parittion where i want XP to go. Then on the old HD i have
the other parition called 'D' which is just some storage and then on the new
HD there is another parition called 'G' which is 60gb and will be storage.

All i want is to copy C to E. It worked when i did it using the windows
maxblast4 but there were errors on it as some parts didnt copy properly and i
think it was becasue some processes were running in the backround when i did
it, but im not sure.

Any ideas on what to do?

Thanks
 
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Timothy Daniels

Point said:
Yea, im using it to copy 'C' which is the old HD with XP on it to 'E' which
is the new 100gb parittion where i want XP to go. Then on the old HD
i have the other parition called 'D' which is just some storage and then
on the new HD there is another parition called 'G' which is 60gb and
will be storage.

All i want is to copy C to E. It worked when i did it using the windows
maxblast4 but there were errors on it as some parts didnt copy properly
and i think it was becasue some processes were running in the
backround when i did it, but im not sure.

Any ideas on what to do?


You are using MaxBlast contrary to the documentation. The documentation
clearly says that it copies ALL the partitions to the new HD. You are trying
to copy single partitions. Do you understand the implications of that? It
means that you're on your own. At this point, I'd look for a utility that copies
single partitions. Ghost and Casper XP do that, and probably several
others as well. Otherwise, report back with any success you have as it
would be educational for us all.

*TimDaniels*
 
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Guest

Final Update!

What i have done is this:

- Removed the 100gb Parition (E) so its just unallocated space
- Installed Casper XP and copied the C drive over to the new hard drive
- Its now E Drive (20gb), G Drive (60gb fat32 storage) and then 80bg left
over as unallocated

Now my final 2 questions

1) IS there a free program that will resize partitions without deleting
whats inside of them?

2)Can Casper XP be trusted to make a good copy without any mistakes

Thanks for all help

Neil
 
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Guest

Timothy Daniels said:
You are using MaxBlast contrary to the documentation. The documentation
clearly says that it copies ALL the partitions to the new HD. You are trying
to copy single partitions. Do you understand the implications of that? It
means that you're on your own. At this point, I'd look for a utility that copies
single partitions. Ghost and Casper XP do that, and probably several
others as well. Otherwise, report back with any success you have as it
would be educational for us all.

*TimDaniels*

I didnt realise that, it seemed to let me copy single partitions so i just
went with that. Anyway i used casper XP but my above post seemed to be
missed out so il just repeat what i did again,

What i have done is this:

- Removed the 100gb Parition (E) so its just unallocated space
- Installed Casper XP and copied the C drive over to the new hard drive
- Its now E Drive (20gb), G Drive (60gb fat32 storage) and then 80bg left
over as unallocated

Now my final 2 questions

1) IS there a free program that will resize partitions without deleting
whats inside of them?

2)Can Casper XP be trusted to make a good copy without any mistakes

Thanks for all help

If the answer to Q1 is no il try again with maxblast 4 but copying the
entire HD this time

Thanks
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Point said:
Now my final 2 questions

1) IS there a free program that will resize partitions without
deleting whats inside of them?


The only way to do what you want is with third-party software. Partition
Magic is the best-known such program, but there are freeware/shareware
alternatives. One such program is BootIt Next Generation. It's shareware,
but comes with a free 30-day trial, so you may be able to do what you want
within that 30 days. I haven't used it myself (because I've never needed to
use *any* such program), but it comes highly recommended by several other
MVPs here.

2)Can Casper XP be trusted to make a good copy without any mistakes


Sorry, I've never used it and know nothing about it.
 
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Timothy Daniels

Point said:
I didnt realise that, it seemed to let me copy single partitions so i just
went with that. Anyway i used casper XP but my above post seemed to be
missed out so il just repeat what i did again,


If what you are referring to is the fact that the free trial Casper XP
just copies entire drives, I didn't miss it. The Casper XP and Ghost
that I referred to are the paid versions that can clone single
partitions.

What i have done is this:

- Removed the 100gb Parition (E) so its just unallocated space
- Installed Casper XP and copied the C drive over to the new hard drive
- Its now E Drive (20gb), G Drive (60gb fat32 storage) and then 80bg left
over as unallocated


OK, so you've copied the two PARTITIONS (the entirety of the old HD)
from the old HD to the new HD. IOW, what is listed in Disk Management
as "Local Disk (C:)" and "Local Disk(D:)" has been copied to the new
HD and they're now shown in Disk Management as "Local Disk(E:)"
and "Local Disk(G:)". Notice for future reference that there is no such
thing anymore as "C drive" or "D drive". Those are terms left over
from the early days when a drive held only one partition. Now when you
refer to "C" and "D", you're referring to partitions. As you can see, both
"C" and "D" are partitions residing on the old HD, and "E" and "G" are
partitions on the new HD. Please don't refer to them as "C drive" or
"D drive" as that only confuses your description of the situation.

Now my final 2 questions

1) IS there a free program that will resize partitions without deleting
whats inside of them?


Unlikely. Those operations are not trivial and people make money
selling such utilities.

2)Can Casper XP be trusted to make a good copy without any mistakes


I've not done file-by-file byte-by-byte comparisons, but I haven't noticed
any file corruptions by Casper XP's operation.

If the answer to Q1 is no il try again with maxblast 4 but copying the
entire HD this time


It appears that you have already done, using the Casper XP free trial
version, what MaxBlast 4 claims it will do. But let us know if it does
something different.

*TimDaniels*
 
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Guest

I have used Casper XP to make a bootable clone for backup purposes. I did as
you suggested in the snippet below and disconnected the parent and booted to
the clone.

I intend to re-clone every week or two and when I install new applications.
Apparently, this 2nd and subsequent cloning operates much more quickly with
their SmartClone technology which copies only new and changed data.

My question is, do I need to disconnect the parent and boot the clone each
time I re-clone or is that first booting of the clone sufficient?
 

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