totally clueless & so is tech. support. HELP! PLEASE!

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Sometimes, a mail profile just becomes corrupted. I've seen case after
case of settings being correct with proper Username/Passwords and
yet the mail will not function. I would just delete the existing profile &
create a new one from scratch.
 
Hi,

I use Norton (a.k.a. Norton Internet Security, if that's the one you have)
but neither recommend it nor discredit it. Every software has its own
advantages and disadvantages, and everyone can tell a success story about
the software they're using or they won't use it in the first place. I am a
cheap person but I know every free stuff comes with a cost at a later time
or tradeoffs.

I assume your NIS is not a trial version, or you intend to buy it,
otherwise, it's not worthy for going through all the troubles. A few
additional tips:

(1) Please do not install two anti-virus programs on the same system: This
tends to complicate your system even more. It's fine for whichever you
decide to use. But avoid to use two at the same time because oftentimes it
would cause conflicts and you don't want to have additional troubles.

(2) "Completely" uninstall and re-install NIS if you want to use it: As
suggested before, the key word is "completely" and Ron has done a good job
by giving you the link (unlike I was too lazy to do so). However, I still
suggest you to consult Symantec's technical support just to ensure the
utility is the correct one for your version and they have step-by-step
article for you to follow.
Here are some links I bookmarked:
http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/home_homeoffice/products/nis/nis_2006/contact.html
You may be redirected to run online troubleshoots first.

How to add a firewall rule to Norton Internet Security or Norton Personal
Firewall:
http://service1.symantec.com/Support/nip.nsf/docid/2003022714315536

Configuring firewall rules for Web-enabled programs:
http://service1.symantec.com/Support/nip.nsf/docid/2003120510272036


(3) Temporarily disable NIS: This may not work as some of its services will
start right after Windows starts. You'd need to disable it from Windows
Services, and to set both Personal Firewall and AntiVirus to "manual start"
and then reboot so that it will not loaded. Again, I would suggest you to
consult their technical support since you have spent time with MSN and HP.

(4) After re-install NIS: Assuming you have completely removed NIS and
re-installed it, please do run NIS updates first before you do anything
else. Ensure all bugs (as any software would have) and updates have been
properly installed. And please do NIS configurations (as suggested before)
after updates and before using other programs.

(5) Email scan: I'd strongly recommend you to enable "scan incoming emails"
and optionally to disable "scan outgoing emails". One of the greatest risks
of being infected by virus is from emails (especially junks mails) no matter
how careful one thinks he/she is. If you have no intension to scan emails
and are so sure that all sites browsed will be safe, why would anyone bother
to install AntiVirus program at the first place?

For NIS, make sure "Protect against time out" is "Checked" and "Display tray
icon" and "Display progress indicator when sending emails" are "Unchecked".
You can find these under Norton AntiVirus Options/Email/Advanced.

(6) Spam Integration with email client: As suggested, disable it and click
"No" if it prompts you again after you re-install NIS.

(7) MSN account and OE setup: From the error message submitted, I am not
sure if you're using free or paid MSN account as I have both. For a paid
MSN account, POP server address should be something like this:
"pop3.email.msn.com" instead of 'pop.mail.msn.com'. And for outgoing SMTP
server, it should be something like this: smtp.email.msn.com. Make sure you
have checked "Log on using Secure Password Authentication" and "My server
requires authentication". For the later one, you can simply check "Use the
same settings as my incoming account" in settings.

If you're using free MSN email account (or hotmail account), you would then
added it as using HTTP server with Hotmail and it's more like the second
error message you provided. The server address is more like of this:
http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp and it should be
automatically added by OE. I am not sure but this server name is kind of
strange: 'http://oe.msn.msnmail.hotmail.com/cgi-bin/hmdata' as it has both
"msnmail" and "hotmail". But I certainly could be wrong.

Based on the error messages provided, it seems that you have set up both POP
and HTTP and that's why I am not so sure if you're using paid or free MSN
(hotmail) account.

If I remembered correctly, you're using a dial-up connection. I would
recommend you to "Server Timeouts" to the maximum degree, and you could do
this by going to OE, Tools/Accounts/Mail, select the email account you wish
to configure, and click "Properties", and then "Advanced". On the "Server
Timeouts", increase the timeout to the 4-5 minutes or longer. This will
prevent, as name explained, mail server timeout from slow Internet
connection or receiving large mails.

Finally, as someone also suggested. You email account settings could be
corrupted by one way or the other. Why not remove and add it back after you
have done the anti-virus thing?

Hope this helps.
 
Hi,

One additional note:

(1) 'http://oe.msn.msnmail.hotmail.com/cgi-bin/hmdata': Are you setting up
MSN account using HTTP within Outlook? I found the same error message from
Outlook (once a while) if it cannot connect to my MSN accounts using HTTP
server. POP3 will not be affected though. I do not know the reason for
this error but you could still access those HTTP mail accounts but pointing
mouse to Inbox. This error message seems to be from Outlook only instead of
OE.
 
On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 20:43:02 -0700, sandra4453
Brand new computer-out of the box on Friday. Am not able to send/receive in
outlook express. All my folders were downloaded, all my newsgroups applied,
etc. Tech support at msn, tech support at HP (manufacturer) are all stumped
and have given me the run-a-round. Norton Security had to be reinstalled 3
times before I was able to get other programs to work but nothing has
remedied this problem with oe. I've got the account information set up right
so what could I possibly do to enable the program to send/receive emails?
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE....if there's someone out there that can guide me, I'm
hoping to get some direction as everyone who was supposed to know how to help
has done nothing but add to my aggravation.

I would do the following...
- write down the names of your email servers
- start a command prompt, and enter the following commands:
- IPCONFIG (and then write down the results)
- PING 196.2.16.3 (to see if you can reach the outside world)
- PING google.com (to see if DNS works)
- PING <name of your SMTP server>
- PING <name of your POP3 server>
- try browsing around in a web server
- in OE, try toggling the "allow authentication" setting

If you can't PING google.com or browse the web, but can PING
196.2.16.3, then you have Internet access but no DNS. The Domain Name
Service is from your ISP and converts domain names like google.com to
IP addresses like 196.2.16.3

If you can't PING 196.2.16.3 (or other Internet-addressible IP
addresses that are known to respond to PING) then you don't have
Internet access. At this point, I'd ask you to post back the results
of the IPCONFIG command, as I'd suspect you aren't online or you are
not on the same netmask as your router.

If all the PINGs work except those of your email servers, then either
these servers don't respond to PING, or the names are incorrect (and
don't map to an IP address), or they are blocked somewhere (HOSTS?).

If you can PING your email servers, but cannot get mail from them even
though the id and password is correct, then either your ISP is
refusing to serve you (usually the result of a T&C transgression on
your part, or they think you hjaven't paid them) or a firewall is
blocking your email app, or the av is messing up the email axis.


You can think of email as like a dual carrigeway; the process of
sending email uses a different service, and therefore nearly always a
different server, from the process of getting email. That means many,
if not most, email-specific problems will usually mess up one route
while not affecting the other (can send, can't get, or vice versa)

To get email, the following must be correct:
- name of POP server (same for all members of your ISP)
- your POP login name (unique to you)
- your POP login password (unique and private to you)
- usually works best if you disable SSL
By convention, the POP login name and password may be the same as
those used to access the Internet, but they don't have to be.

To send email, the following must be correct:
- name of your SMTP server (same for all members of your ISP)
- usually, you must connect through the same ISP
- often, "authentication" must be correctly on or off (try both)
- usually works best if you disable SSL
There's no password or name required to send email, so unless
something else was done, any spammer could use any SMTP. What usually
is done is to bind sending mail to using the same ISP's IP address
pool, and/or you have to log into POP server first (authentication)

A common hassle with email is antivirus utilities that try to parse
the email stream between your email app and the mail servers. This
often causes outgoing email to be lost even though the email app
thinks they were sent OK (especially on auto-disconnect dialup) or
they can mess up email traffic altogether.

Suspect this if you find tour email server names appear to match your
own PC or your antivirus app's name, and bear no resemblance to your
ISP's name or server names. If so, what's happened is that the av is
getting and/or sending the email as if it were your email app, while
it presents itself to your email app as if it were your mail servers.

More detail would help pin this down.


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