To All

[PC Datasheet]

A person going by Arno R has been harassing me and other responders to the
newsgroups. In the past he has posted slanderous obscenities about
responders and now this is his new bag of tricks. He is a small-minded
individual with low self esteem and continually looking for a means to make
himself look like a big person, the god of the newsgroups. Here is how he
responds to the question of who monitors the newsgroups:

FYI Steve:
*I* am monitoring this group (and other groups ...)

Arno R

Ignore him!

I am in business to provide customers with a resource for help with
Microsoft Access, Excel and Word
applications. I provide help for a very reasonable fee. Sometimes when I
respond to a poster with a complex problem, I usually outline to him what
needs done then offer my help as an alternative. The following is a quote
from a recent poster to a newsgroup who contacted me with his problem:
"Hey, nothing wrong with letting people know you can help them for problems
that go beyond the scope of a volunteer discussion group. Rookies like me
sometimes expect miracles on those types of websites and that just isn't
reality." And a poster who contacted me, paid me for some help and then
said:
"Wow. This is nice. Very nice. This should help us immensely! Thank you
so much for your help."

Ignore Arno R and eventually he will go away!

Steve
PC Datasheet
(e-mail address removed)

 

[Arno R]

Comments inline...

A person going by Arno R has been harassing me and other responders to the
newsgroups.

Nonsense! No other responders, only you

In the past he has posted slanderous obscenities about
responders and now this is his new bag of tricks.

Obvious nonsense also.

Here is how he
responds to the question of who monitors the newsgroups:

FYI Steve:
*I* am monitoring this group (and other groups ...)

Arno R

True, I *am* monitoring *you* indeed.
We have not seen very much of you lately since the 'Stop Steve' threads.
==> I really hope you are *not* going to show us that all you have learned is *this* ???

IMO it was 'nice' the last month's (almost) without your advertising and job-hunting in the newsgroups ...
So, let's keep it nice.

<snipped the rest , also nonsense IMO>

Arno R

 

[Randy Harris]

[snip]
I am in business to provide customers with a resource for help with
Microsoft Access, Excel and Word

In my opinion, this crosses the line. I've never objected to, nor commented
on, Steve's use of sig line adverstising. This, however, is blatant spam.

 

[Tim Marshall]

I am in business to provide customers with a resource for help with
Microsoft Access, Excel and Word
applications. I provide help for a very reasonable fee.

I can't speak for the other newsgroups, but your behaviour of assuming
personas to ask questions and then answering them yourself on cdma is
deceitful and probably deserving of the ridicule it has received from
Arno and a few others. It's not a violation of the charter, it's just
either kooky behaviour or shystering, depending on one's viewpoint.

On the other hand, your blatant solicitation of business on the
newsgroup is a direct violation of the cdma charter and FAQ, which can
be found at http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm

In particular, this section:

* * * * * * * * * * * *
The following are specifically forbidden in the CDMA newsgroup:

* Advertising of any kind, even if the product is free, a demo, or
otherwise. You may answer a question with a link to a commercial site
which pertains to the question. You may also add a phrase and/or link in
your signature.
* * * * * * * * * * * *

You have refused to abide by this part of the group charter and are
therefore fully deserving of censure, ridicule and heaps of dog dirt
that may be dumped on you. You reap what you sow. Ask yourself why
Arno is "picking on you".

Rather than whinging about someone taking you to task for your behaviour
and sounding like the school yard sneak who bursts into tears when he's
caught, take responsibility for your actions and abide by the group charter.

My feeling is that I would be loathe to hire someone who has a difficult
time following the rules of a forum. Such people who deflect
responsibility for their actions like you are doing rarely are capable
of thinking constructively and don't take comments on their work very
well. You are painting a picture of yourself, steve, so think about
what colours you want to use.

 

[PC Datasheet]

At 7:24 PM Yesterday I responded to a post on the
Microsoft.Public.Access.GettingStarted newsgroup with the following advice.
Arno R
responded with his harrassing post.

Create a query that includes the fields JobTitle and Salary. Set the
criteria of JobTitle to the one you want to give a raise to. Convert the
query to an Update query. Where it says Update To under Salary, put this
expression:
[Salary]+1000

--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
(e-mail address removed)
www.pcdatasheet.com


At 2:00 today I responded to a post on the
Microsoft.Public.Access.GettingStarted newsgroup with the following advice.
Arno R
responded with his harrassing post.

Start by looking at the Dir function in the Help file.

--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
(e-mail address removed)
www.pcdatasheet.com

Arno R is not the god of the newsgroups. In fact, if you do your homework,
you will be startled by who he is and what he has been doing for a long
time. I am going to post my "To All" post frequently until Arno R goes away
or at least quits harassing me.

Steve
PC Datasheet

 

[PC Datasheet]

Randy,

You took my statement out of context. The statement was informational to
support the remaining paragraph. Here's the full paragraph ---
I am in business to provide customers with a resource for help with
Microsoft Access, Excel and Word
applications. I provide help for a very reasonable fee. Sometimes when I
respond to a poster with a complex problem, I usually outline to him what
needs done then offer my help as an alternative. The following is a quote
from a recent poster to a newsgroup who contacted me with his problem:
"Hey, nothing wrong with letting people know you can help them for problems
that go beyond the scope of a volunteer discussion group. Rookies like me
sometimes expect miracles on those types of websites and that just isn't
reality." And a poster who contacted me, paid me for some help and then
said:
"Wow. This is nice. Very nice. This should help us immensely! Thank you
so much for your help."

If you want to find something to comment on or object to, do your homework
on Arno R. You will be startled who he is and what he has been doing for a
long time.

Also, read my response in this thread.

Steve
PC Datasheet

[snip]
I am in business to provide customers with a resource for help with
Microsoft Access, Excel and Word

In my opinion, this crosses the line. I've never objected to, nor commented
on, Steve's use of sig line adverstising. This, however, is blatant spam.

 

[PC Datasheet]

Timmy,

You do not know of what you speak.!! If you are making up untrue statements
then you are no better than Arno R. I have NEVER asked questions and then
answered them myself on cdma. What is your motive? You are the one that is
being deceitful and exhibiting kooky behaviour or shystering, depending on
one's viewpoint. If you are man enough, I expect an apology and a retraction
from you.

If you do your homework, you will be startled by who Arno R is and what he
has been doing for a long time.

Steve
PC Datasheet

 

[PC Datasheet]

At 3:54 today I responded to a post on the
Microsoft.Public.Access.Queries newsgroup with the following advice.
Arno R responded with his harrassing post.

Create a table of numbers from 10000 to 20000. Then create an unmatched
query to look for numers in the number table that are not in the part number
table.

--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
(e-mail address removed)
www.pcdatasheet.com

Arno R is not the god of the newsgroups. In fact, if you do your homework,
you will be startled by who he is and what he has been doing for a long
time. I am going to post my "To All" post frequently until Arno R goes away
or at least quits harassing me.

Steve
PC Datasheet

 

[Tim Marshall]

You do not know of what you speak.!! If you are making up untrue statements
then you are no better than Arno R. I have NEVER asked questions and then
answered them myself on cdma. What is your motive?

Your behaviour in this regard has been demonstrated and proven by other
posters, a couple of times this year - taking on female persona and
accidentally leaving your PC datasheet sig, is one example. These
"outings" were *NOT* first discovered by Arno, but by one or possibly
two very big and well respected guns on cdma.

Look. You *ARE* helpful to other posters here in answering questions.
Leave it at that and stop violating the group charter, because you make
yourself look bad by being involved in any flame war. Note again my
metaphor of what colours you want to paint yourself with.

 

[Randy Harris]

Your behaviour in this regard has been demonstrated and proven by other
posters, a couple of times this year - taking on female persona and
accidentally leaving your PC datasheet sig, is one example. These
"outings" were *NOT* first discovered by Arno, but by one or possibly
two very big and well respected guns on cdma.

Look. You *ARE* helpful to other posters here in answering questions.
Leave it at that and stop violating the group charter, because you make
yourself look bad by being involved in any flame war. Note again my
metaphor of what colours you want to paint yourself with.
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "Whatcha doin?" - Ditto "TIM-MAY!!" - Me

Steve, I think that a great many of us that follow these newsgroups feel the
same as Tim on this matter. Do yourself a favor, avoid the flame war and
simply continue to help people by answering questions. You've been doing
that quite ably for a long time.

 

[WSF]

I have been observing this soap for a while now. What fun!
The forums have been a very very valuable source, helping me out of a
code pothole or three, sometimes in very quick time. I post a question
while working on a project - the answer can come from any corner of the
Globe, sometimes in minutes! For an old fart like me that's incredible -
beats going down to the library of twenty years ago and spending hours
not finding the answer! Hell, I have even contributed too, especially in
Excel, which I can make dance and answer back! But Access, after years
of me using it still tests my patience sometimes. So thank heaven for
the forums and those contributing - sure there are the regulars, the
guru's - and Google too! Even our friend PC Datasheet has responded to a
question or two of mine. That is appreciated.

But Steve, if that is your real name, in attempting some kind of
redemption you incite response from people who seem level-headed in
their response to your plight.

I cannot help thinking that the attitude I see here today, with due
respect, is like having someone go into a Citizens' Advice Bureau for
advice, only to be handed a business card by the CAB volunteer with the
whisper "If that don't fix your problem give me a call - my charges are
reasonable".

Steve, when are you going to realise you are up against it? Your are
being toasted! You refer in your post to "customers". If indeed you have
a customer base surely they are your best resource for ongoing business?
Not sly advertising on a volunteer forum?

Your website tells us nothing - it does not say who you are or what you
are. Considering your indignity at the treatment you claim to suffer at
the hands of the likes of Arno R your credentials are rather thin.

In it you list among your qualifications a "Library (Indexed) of Over
1000 Procedures Taken From Various Sources", "Large library of Reference
Books", yet not one formal IS/IT qualification based on study or
recognised work experience, or a genuine testimonial with bona fide links.

Contribute like others, but without the commercials. It really is
appreciated. Arno R is, just maybe, a defender of the Realm!
It really is a matter of keeping the NG faith.
And let's keep our sense of humour guys.

WSF

ps I just had a couple of minutes to kill before dinner, vent my spleen
so to say. Ah, that feels better. Look out, here come the cook with the
chook! And roast veggies, gravy - Yummmmmm! where's the vino!

 

[David C. Holley]

I may be missing this, but what was harrassing about the first post?
Granted the second doesn't doesn't go into the detail that probably
could, however I myself have posted quick responses where I felt that I
didn't have the time to go into detail, but still wanted to point the
person in the right direction. I haven't been accused of harrasement.
What I do find disturbing is

#1) *YOU* have posted this thread to multiple newsgroups. Which I see as
nothing short of harrasement on *YOUR* part, as multiple posting annoy
all of us.

#2) "I am going to post my "To All" post frequently until Arno R goes
away or at least quits harassing me." That statement is nothing short of
harrasment in and of itself. Quite frankly, if you're being harrased
thats one thing but as a frequent visitor one of the many threads that
you've posted to, I myself do not appreciate the thought of seeing your
tirades posted over and over again. If you're that upset, create a blog.
This (these) newsgroups are *NOT* your personal forumns.
State your case and *GET OVER IT*.

For the records *I* will NOT be replying to any other related messages
simply to avoid further SPAMMING the newsgroups.

David H

At 7:24 PM Yesterday I responded to a post on the
Microsoft.Public.Access.GettingStarted newsgroup with the following advice.
Arno R
responded with his harrassing post.

Create a query that includes the fields JobTitle and Salary. Set the
criteria of JobTitle to the one you want to give a raise to. Convert the
query to an Update query. Where it says Update To under Salary, put this
expression:
[Salary]+1000

--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
(e-mail address removed)
www.pcdatasheet.com


At 2:00 today I responded to a post on the
Microsoft.Public.Access.GettingStarted newsgroup with the following advice.
Arno R
responded with his harrassing post.

Start by looking at the Dir function in the Help file.

--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
(e-mail address removed)
www.pcdatasheet.com

Arno R is not the god of the newsgroups. In fact, if you do your homework,
you will be startled by who he is and what he has been doing for a long
time. I am going to post my "To All" post frequently until Arno R goes away
or at least quits harassing me.

Steve
PC Datasheet

A person going by Arno R has been harassing me and other responders to the
newsgroups. In the past he has posted slanderous obscenities about
responders and now this is his new bag of tricks. He is a small-minded
individual with low self esteem and continually looking for a means to
make

himself look like a big person, the god of the newsgroups. Here is how he
responds to the question of who monitors the newsgroups:

FYI Steve:
*I* am monitoring this group (and other groups ...)

Arno R

Ignore him!

I am in business to provide customers with a resource for help with
Microsoft Access, Excel and Word
applications. I provide help for a very reasonable fee. Sometimes when I
respond to a poster with a complex problem, I usually outline to him what
needs done then offer my help as an alternative. The following is a quote
from a recent poster to a newsgroup who contacted me with his problem:
"Hey, nothing wrong with letting people know you can help them for
problems

that go beyond the scope of a volunteer discussion group. Rookies like
me

sometimes expect miracles on those types of websites and that just isn't
reality." And a poster who contacted me, paid me for some help and then
said:
"Wow. This is nice. Very nice. This should help us immensely! Thank you
so much for your help."

Ignore Arno R and eventually he will go away!

Steve
PC Datasheet
(e-mail address removed)

 

[Arno R]

If you want to find something to comment on or object to, do your homework
on Arno R. You will be startled who he is and what he has been doing for a
long time.

Feel free to show us Steve ... Any links or so ??
All your accusations against me are merely a classic example of what is called 'projection' in psychology.

Arno R

 

[PC Datasheet]

Arno R is a virus to the newsgroups and anyone supporting what he is doing
is propagating the virus. He is a little person with very low self esteem
looking for ways to make himself look like the big person he is not.
Sometime ago there were two very frequent contributors to
Comp.Databases.MS-Access and Microsoft.Public.Access.Reports. These two
individuals were particularly experst in reports and frequently shared their
knowledge. Arno R targetted these two individuals with slander, ridicule and
general harassment. They had done nothing to deserve such treatment. He was
chastised by other regular contributors to the nesgroups but ignored them.
Arno R sought the power of being able to destroy two very capable
contributors to the newsgroups. He succeeded!! You won't see these two
contributors in the newsgroups anymore. Some of you who have been around a
long time might recall who I am talking about. The power Arno R thought he
had gotten from this episode apparently was not enough for him. It wasn't
long after that that he began projecting himself as an MVP under many
aliases. This continued for some time. Again apparently the initials MVP
after alias names did not give him the recognition he sought so after some
time he stopped his impersonation. His low self esteem still was there so
his next episode was to post questions to the newsgroups and then answer
them under a multitude of aliases. Just as the perpetraters of viruses, he
has the skills it takes to execute these charades. Evidence how he is able
to trace every post I have made. But just as the perpetrators of viruses, he
channels these skills in wrong directions. For a while Arno R's esteem got a
boost. However, again apparently he realized that any praise he was
receiving for his responses was not coming from any outsiders but from only
himself. The number of posts and counter responses waned and finally
disappeared. And now the cycle is beginning all over. His goal is to be
thought of as the god of the newsgroups. Don't support him.

Steve

 

[Larry Linson]

Your behaviour in this regard has been demonstrated and proven by other
posters, a couple of times this year - taking on female persona...

Being an MVP, I really don't have a problem with people taking on a female
persona.

 

[PC Datasheet]

Tim,

Once again you don't know what you are talking about!!

It was NEVER demonstrated by other posters that asked questions and then
answered them myself on CDMA. You are like Arno R; just making up slanderous
statements!!! What is YOUR motive?

Are you man enough to apologize and retract your statements?

Steve

 

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[Larry Linson]

Being an MVP, I really don't have
a problem with people taking on
a female persona.

Poor, poor Don... still has too much time on his hands, but he's pretty hard
up to have to impersonate _me_. If my memory doesn't fail, I think it was
Don himself who said "never trust the name on any newsgroup post to be
correct". I didn't realize he would feel it worth his while to try to prove
that...

Larry Linson

 

[David C. Holley]

What your saying that that post by George W. Bush asking for help in
automating his Outlook calendar wasn't from the President?

 

[WSF]

Hey, this is fun.
It gives a new meaning to the word "Jerk!"
It brings out the paranoid in me - the masochist - the the the splut,
splut, sput.............

Steve, open the window mate. A persecution complex makes pathetic
reading. Stick to helping posters with their questions without the
commercials and maybe, just maybe, Arno will leave you alone.

Hmmmm. Maybe you are ARNO in drag?

Now there's a thought.

WSF