"To All, From Gail.....Thanks For Everything!"

[Thomas A. Rowe]

However, if you are not using FP navigation component, but are using shared borders, FP Include Page
or DWT under FP2003, you can not disable a navigation link based on the current open page, unless
you can use a server-side scripting language, otherwise you have to create the navigation directly
on each page, there by requiring every page to be manually edit any time you need to modify links

Craig, the following is not directed, directly toward you...

But if a user is on a page and then click the link for the page they are on, so what, the page
refreshes, where is the problem with this. This just appears to be a personal preference of a web
developer.

How many top sites do you see this done on?
--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================


reckon this happened because of the way in which I did my interactive buttons, which if I am
following you right is my navigation structure. I didn't use shared borders or the FP Include Page
component. However, inquiring minds (such as mine) want to know what it means "When you are on
Contact Us page, the link to Contact Us is still active."

It means that if a visitor goes to your site and goes to the Contact Us page, and then for some

reason clicks on the Contact Us link, the page will reload. This is unnecessary since the visitor is
already there. That's why many of us eliminate the hyperlink (not the button, just the active
hyperlink attached to the button) from the button that leads to the page a user is already on.

 

[Craig Schiller]

<snip>

Craig, the following is not directed, directly toward you...

But if a user is on a page and then click the link for the page they are on, so what, the page
refreshes, where is the problem with this. This just appears to be a personal preference of a web
developer.

I agree, I think it's absolutely a personal preference. Whatever slight problem there is comes from the
fact that it's an unnecessary refresh, which can be annoying, especially if one is using a dialup
connection.

But basically, since I'm fairly compulsive, it's just the way I like to do it. Also, to me, the fact
that the mouse click does nothing provides a subtle cue to the user: "Hey, you, that's the page you're
already on!"

Craig

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

You need to stop using / creating spaces in file and folder names
Your interactive buttons don't show because you saved the embedded files in a folder named
"Interactive Buttons" which becomes Interactive%20Buttons, but he scripts don't recognize the %20 added by the browser
Rename the folder named "Interactive Buttons" to say just : buttons
Then reapply your Interactive buttons, saving the embedded files to the new folder buttons
- you can also rename your embedded button image files to be more meaningful to you
(say for the home one to: home_n.gif, home_h.jpg, and home_p.jpg)

Since you are using Interactive Buttons (and not shared borders or nav bars) which are just images and JavaScript in your html pages
- You can easily disable the hyperlink for the appropriate button on each page (so it does not work as a hyperlink on just that
page). Just select the Button, then switch to Code View and remove the hyperlink tag). For example on your home page (using your
bad file names w/o correction) you would change:

<td><a href="index.htm">
<img border="0" id="img1" src="../Interactive%20Buttons/button1.jpg" height="20" width="100" alt="HOME" fp-style="fp-btn: Embossed
Rectangle 5; fp-orig: 0" fp-title="HOME" onmouseover="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/button2.jpg')"
onmouseout="FP_swapImg(0,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/button1.jpg')"
onmousedown="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/button3.jpg')"
onmouseup="FP_swapImg(0,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/button2.jpg')"></a></td>

to just:

<td><img border="0" id="img1" src="../Interactive%20Buttons/button1.jpg" height="20" width="100" alt="HOME"></td>

Note: this will treat the image as just an image and not an interactive button
Then on the About page you would disable the about script and link tags


PS

Trust you are aware your that your Word Art will not show on other than IE browsers
To have FP create .gif images for other users use
Tools Page Options Authoring and turn on Down-level Images under VML
(you will have to recreate your word art for FP to generate the images)

Better still don't use Word art
--




| Just wondering, can I do this same procedure in PhotoShop so that I can get my logo straightened out. I don't like the fact that
some people may not be able to see the logo, especially since that is the first thing they see.
|
| Also, what does Tina mean "too much white space make a fluid template of 100%"?
|
| Thanks!
|
| ----- Steve Easton wrote: -----
|
| I like it. ;-)
| sweet simple ( simple meant as a compliment ) and to the point.
|
| 2 things I would change.
|
| 1. Each page has a link to itself
| 2. Get rid of the extra "empty"space at the bottom of the Home page.
|
| Comment: the VML used for the word art is going to cause problems in "some" browsers.
| You could take a screen shot of the logo, ( both lines ) paste into IrfanView and save it as an
| image and then use the image.
|
| Just a thought.
|
| If you want, email me and I'll do it and email it back. Takes about 30 seconds.
|
|
| --
| Steve Easton
| Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| 95isalive
| This site is best viewed............
| ........................with a computer
|
| | > As I am sure all of you are aware, I have been struggling with creating my site for quite some
| time now. I would just like to say THANK YOU to everyone that helped me through this challenging
| time. I am glad that I now have my site up and running; however, I know that it could still use a
| little bit of work, especially with the images. I will have to look into a photo editing program,
| but I need to take a short break from all of this. I was quite stressed over this whole ordeal but
| am really glad I attempted to do this for my husband, who is the owner of this business.
| >> I would GREATLY appreciate it if I could get some professional input on what I have done. This is
| my first one and I really would like some honest feedback so that I know what I should do for the
| next one. Ugh
| >> Please visit www.bikerburials.com and please believe me everyone, I am ready for some serious,
| professional critiquing.
| >> Thanks again for all of the help. I couldn't have done it without you!
| >

 

[Guest]

Stefan
Thank you so much. I didn't realize I should only use one-name folders. I have renamed the folder to "buttons." What a great idea to rename the button images so that they would be more meaningful. Do you realize I have 48 buttons in my folder. I have four buttons on a page and each button has 3 images to it. That's a lot of renaming but I will definitely do it. In your example I noticed you had the first button renamed to a .gif and the other two .jpg. Why not all .gif or .jpg? I need to ask you what you mean by "reapplying" my interactive buttons. Do I have to go through the whole process and recreate new buttons again? By doing this, I would need to delete the existing buttons, correct

I don't think I have another way to create my logo other than with Word Art. Do I need a photo editing program to create a logo that will work on all browsers? I only have access to Microsoft Picture It Photo 7.0 or Microsoft Office Picture Manager

Thanks


----- Stefan B Rusynko wrote: ----

You need to stop using / creating spaces in file and folder name
Your interactive buttons don't show because you saved the embedded files in a folder name
"Interactive Buttons" which becomes Interactive%20Buttons, but he scripts don't recognize the %20 added by the browse
Rename the folder named "Interactive Buttons" to say just : button
Then reapply your Interactive buttons, saving the embedded files to the new folder button
- you can also rename your embedded button image files to be more meaningful to yo
(say for the home one to: home_n.gif, home_h.jpg, and home_p.jpg

Since you are using Interactive Buttons (and not shared borders or nav bars) which are just images and JavaScript in your html page
- You can easily disable the hyperlink for the appropriate button on each page (so it does not work as a hyperlink on just tha
page). Just select the Button, then switch to Code View and remove the hyperlink tag). For example on your home page (using you
bad file names w/o correction) you would change

<td><a href="index.htm"><img border="0" id="img1" src="../Interactive%20Buttons/button1.jpg" height="20" width="100" alt="HOME" fp-style="fp-btn: Embosse
Rectangle 5; fp-orig: 0" fp-title="HOME" onmouseover="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/button2.jpg')
onmouseout="FP_swapImg(0,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/button1.jpg')
onmousedown="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/button3.jpg')
onmouseup="FP_swapImg(0,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/button2.jpg')"></a></td

to just

<td><img border="0" id="img1" src="../Interactive%20Buttons/button1.jpg" height="20" width="100" alt="HOME"></td

Note: this will treat the image as just an image and not an interactive butto
Then on the About page you would disable the about script and link tag


P

Trust you are aware your that your Word Art will not show on other than IE browser
To have FP create .gif images for other users us
Tools Page Options Authoring and turn on Down-level Images under VM
(you will have to recreate your word art for FP to generate the images

Better still don't use Word ar
--

____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.as
____________________________________________


| Just wondering, can I do this same procedure in PhotoShop so that I can get my logo straightened out. I don't like the fact tha
some people may not be able to see the logo, especially since that is the first thing they see
|
| Also, what does Tina mean "too much white space make a fluid template of 100%"?
|
| Thanks!
|
| ----- Steve Easton wrote: -----
|
| I like it. ;-)
| sweet simple ( simple meant as a compliment ) and to the point.
|
| 2 things I would change.
|
| 1. Each page has a link to itself
| 2. Get rid of the extra "empty"space at the bottom of the Home page.
|
| Comment: the VML used for the word art is going to cause problems in "some" browsers.
| You could take a screen shot of the logo, ( both lines ) paste into IrfanView and save it as an
| image and then use the image.
|
| Just a thought.
|
| If you want, email me and I'll do it and email it back. Takes about 30 seconds.
|
|
| --
| Steve Easton
| Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| 95isalive
| This site is best viewed............
| ........................with a computer
|
| | > As I am sure all of you are aware, I have been struggling with creating my site for quite some
| time now. I would just like to say THANK YOU to everyone that helped me through this challenging
| time. I am glad that I now have my site up and running; however, I know that it could still use a
| little bit of work, especially with the images. I will have to look into a photo editing program,
| but I need to take a short break from all of this. I was quite stressed over this whole ordeal but
| am really glad I attempted to do this for my husband, who is the owner of this business.
| >> I would GREATLY appreciate it if I could get some professional input on what I have done. This is
| my first one and I really would like some honest feedback so that I know what I should do for the
| next one. Ugh
| >> Please visit www.bikerburials.com and please believe me everyone, I am ready for some serious,
| professional critiquing.
| >> Thanks again for all of the help. I couldn't have done it without you!
| >

 

[Guest]

Stefan
I just don't know what to do anymore. All this time I have been working on the changes and just tried to publish my site. After numerous trys, it finally published but the buttons are still not right. I contacted my host but I have a funny feeling they aren't going to know what the problem is. Am I doing something wrong? Can you please help

Also, you said you attached three .gif's but I go through "communities" in Front Page so I can't receive any attachments. Can you send them to the e-mail address on the site. Ugh, I dread that people are seeing my site the way it is. How VERY unprofessional

Thanks

----- Stefan B Rusynko wrote: ----

The file names were typo
(all should be .gif or .jpg - whatever image type you selected

And you don't need 48 image
- you only have 4 pages w/ 3 images each (12 total

Delete all your interactive buttons and their images on all page
(leave the 4 row table with empty cells
On your home page create the 4 buttons w/ 3 states correctly using Insert Interactive Button

Open your next page, switch to the home page and select a button and Edit Copy, then select the cell on the next page and Edi
paste. Continue w/ your other pages and buttons the same way
That way the same set of images is in the same folder is used for all page

Finally to deactivate a button on a page do the edit from my previous pos

Attached are 3 .gifs for your word ar
--

____________________________________________
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"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.as
____________________________________________


| Stefan
| Thank you so much. I didn't realize I should only use one-name folders. I have renamed the folder to "buttons." What a grea
idea to rename the button images so that they would be more meaningful. Do you realize I have 48 buttons in my folder. I have fou
buttons on a page and each button has 3 images to it. That's a lot of renaming but I will definitely do it. In your example
noticed you had the first button renamed to a .gif and the other two .jpg. Why not all .gif or .jpg? I need to ask you what yo
mean by "reapplying" my interactive buttons. Do I have to go through the whole process and recreate new buttons again? By doin
this, I would need to delete the existing buttons, correct

| I don't think I have another way to create my logo other than with Word Art. Do I need a photo editing program to create a log
that will work on all browsers? I only have access to Microsoft Picture It Photo 7.0 or Microsoft Office Picture Manager

| Thanks


| ----- Stefan B Rusynko wrote: ----

| You need to stop using / creating spaces in file and folder name
| Your interactive buttons don't show because you saved the embedded files in a folder name
| "Interactive Buttons" which becomes Interactive%20Buttons, but he scripts don't recognize the %20 added by the browse
| Rename the folder named "Interactive Buttons" to say just : button
| Then reapply your Interactive buttons, saving the embedded files to the new folder button
| - you can also rename your embedded button image files to be more meaningful to yo
| (say for the home one to: home_n.gif, home_h.jpg, and home_p.jpg

| Since you are using Interactive Buttons (and not shared borders or nav bars) which are just images and JavaScript in you
html page
| - You can easily disable the hyperlink for the appropriate button on each page (so it does not work as a hyperlink on jus
that
| page). Just select the Button, then switch to Code View and remove the hyperlink tag). For example on your home page (using
your
| bad file names w/o correction) you would change:
|
| <td><a href="index.htm"><img border="0" id="img1" src="../Interactive%20Buttons/button1.jpg" height="20" width="100"
alt="HOME" fp-style="fp-btn: Embossed
| Rectangle 5; fp-orig: 0" fp-title="HOME"
onmouseover="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/button2.jpg')"
| onmouseout="FP_swapImg(0,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/button1.jpg')"
| onmousedown="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/button3.jpg')"
| onmouseup="FP_swapImg(0,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/button2.jpg')"></a></td>
|
| to just:
|
| <td><img border="0" id="img1" src="../Interactive%20Buttons/button1.jpg" height="20" width="100" alt="HOME"></td>
|
| Note: this will treat the image as just an image and not an interactive button
| Then on the About page you would disable the about script and link tags
|
|
| PS
|
| Trust you are aware your that your Word Art will not show on other than IE browsers
| To have FP create .gif images for other users use
| Tools Page Options Authoring and turn on Down-level Images under VML
| (you will have to recreate your word art for FP to generate the images)
|
| Better still don't use Word art
| --
|
| _____________________________________________
| SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| _____________________________________________
|
|
| | Just wondering, can I do this same procedure in PhotoShop so that I can get my logo straightened out. I don't like the
fact that
| some people may not be able to see the logo, especially since that is the first thing they see.
| |
| | Also, what does Tina mean "too much white space make a fluid template of 100%"?
| |
| | Thanks!
| |
| | ----- Steve Easton wrote: -----
| |
| | I like it. ;-)
| | sweet simple ( simple meant as a compliment ) and to the point.
| |
| | 2 things I would change.
| |
| | 1. Each page has a link to itself
| | 2. Get rid of the extra "empty"space at the bottom of the Home page.
| |
| | Comment: the VML used for the word art is going to cause problems in "some" browsers.
| | You could take a screen shot of the logo, ( both lines ) paste into IrfanView and save it as an
| | image and then use the image.
| |
| | Just a thought.
| |
| | If you want, email me and I'll do it and email it back. Takes about 30 seconds.
| |
| |
| | --
| | Steve Easton
| | Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| | 95isalive
| | This site is best viewed............
| | ........................with a computer
| |
| | | | > As I am sure all of you are aware, I have been struggling with creating my site for quite some
| | time now. I would just like to say THANK YOU to everyone that helped me through this challenging
| | time. I am glad that I now have my site up and running; however, I know that it could still use a
| | little bit of work, especially with the images. I will have to look into a photo editing program,
| | but I need to take a short break from all of this. I was quite stressed over this whole ordeal but
| | am really glad I attempted to do this for my husband, who is the owner of this business.
| | >> I would GREATLY appreciate it if I could get some professional input on what I have done. This is
| | my first one and I really would like some honest feedback so that I know what I should do for the
| | next one. Ugh
| | >> Please visit www.bikerburials.com and please believe me everyone, I am ready for some serious,
| | professional critiquing.
| | >> Thanks again for all of the help. I couldn't have done it without you!
| | >

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

Sent them

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| Stefan,
| I just don't know what to do anymore. All this time I have been working on the changes and just tried to publish my site. After
numerous trys, it finally published but the buttons are still not right. I contacted my host but I have a funny feeling they aren't
going to know what the problem is. Am I doing something wrong? Can you please help!
|
| Also, you said you attached three .gif's but I go through "communities" in Front Page so I can't receive any attachments. Can
you send them to the e-mail address on the site. Ugh, I dread that people are seeing my site the way it is. How VERY
unprofessional.
|
| Thanks.
|
| ----- Stefan B Rusynko wrote: -----
|
| The file names were typos
| (all should be .gif or .jpg - whatever image type you selected)
|
| And you don't need 48 images
| - you only have 4 pages w/ 3 images each (12 total)
|
| Delete all your interactive buttons and their images on all pages
| (leave the 4 row table with empty cells)
| On your home page create the 4 buttons w/ 3 states correctly using Insert Interactive Buttons
|
| Open your next page, switch to the home page and select a button and Edit Copy, then select the cell on the next page and
Edit
| paste. Continue w/ your other pages and buttons the same way.
| That way the same set of images is in the same folder is used for all pages
|
| Finally to deactivate a button on a page do the edit from my previous post
|
| Attached are 3 .gifs for your word art
| --
|
| _____________________________________________
| SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| _____________________________________________
|
|
| | Stefan,
| | Thank you so much. I didn't realize I should only use one-name folders. I have renamed the folder to "buttons." What a
great
| idea to rename the button images so that they would be more meaningful. Do you realize I have 48 buttons in my folder. I
have four
| buttons on a page and each button has 3 images to it. That's a lot of renaming but I will definitely do it. In your example
I
| noticed you had the first button renamed to a .gif and the other two .jpg. Why not all .gif or .jpg? I need to ask you what
you
| mean by "reapplying" my interactive buttons. Do I have to go through the whole process and recreate new buttons again? By
doing
| this, I would need to delete the existing buttons, correct?
| |
| | I don't think I have another way to create my logo other than with Word Art. Do I need a photo editing program to create a
logo
| that will work on all browsers? I only have access to Microsoft Picture It Photo 7.0 or Microsoft Office Picture Manager.
| |
| | Thanks.
| |
| |
| | ----- Stefan B Rusynko wrote: -----
| |
| | You need to stop using / creating spaces in file and folder names
| | Your interactive buttons don't show because you saved the embedded files in a folder named
| | "Interactive Buttons" which becomes Interactive%20Buttons, but he scripts don't recognize the %20 added by the browser
| | Rename the folder named "Interactive Buttons" to say just : buttons
| | Then reapply your Interactive buttons, saving the embedded files to the new folder buttons
| | - you can also rename your embedded button image files to be more meaningful to you
| | (say for the home one to: home_n.gif, home_h.jpg, and home_p.jpg)
| |
| | Since you are using Interactive Buttons (and not shared borders or nav bars) which are just images and JavaScript in
your
| html pages
| | - You can easily disable the hyperlink for the appropriate button on each page (so it does not work as a hyperlink on
just
| that
| | page). Just select the Button, then switch to Code View and remove the hyperlink tag). For example on your home page
(using
| your
| | bad file names w/o correction) you would change:
| |
| | <td><a href="index.htm"><img border="0" id="img1" src="../Interactive%20Buttons/button1.jpg" height="20" width="100"
| alt="HOME" fp-style="fp-btn: Embossed
| | Rectangle 5; fp-orig: 0" fp-title="HOME"
| onmouseover="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/button2.jpg')"
| | onmouseout="FP_swapImg(0,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/button1.jpg')"
| | onmousedown="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/button3.jpg')"
| | onmouseup="FP_swapImg(0,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/button2.jpg')"></a></td>
| |
| | to just:
| |
| | <td><img border="0" id="img1" src="../Interactive%20Buttons/button1.jpg" height="20" width="100" alt="HOME"></td>
| |
| | Note: this will treat the image as just an image and not an interactive button
| | Then on the About page you would disable the about script and link tags
| |
| |
| | PS
| |
| | Trust you are aware your that your Word Art will not show on other than IE browsers
| | To have FP create .gif images for other users use
| | Tools Page Options Authoring and turn on Down-level Images under VML
| | (you will have to recreate your word art for FP to generate the images)
| |
| | Better still don't use Word art
| | --
| |
| | _____________________________________________
| | SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| | "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| | To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| | http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| | _____________________________________________
| |
| |
| | | Just wondering, can I do this same procedure in PhotoShop so that I can get my logo straightened out. I don't like
the
| fact that
| | some people may not be able to see the logo, especially since that is the first thing they see.
| | |
| | | Also, what does Tina mean "too much white space make a fluid template of 100%"?
| | |
| | | Thanks!
| | |
| | | ----- Steve Easton wrote: -----
| | |
| | | I like it. ;-)
| | | sweet simple ( simple meant as a compliment ) and to the point.
| | |
| | | 2 things I would change.
| | |
| | | 1. Each page has a link to itself
| | | 2. Get rid of the extra "empty"space at the bottom of the Home page.
| | |
| | | Comment: the VML used for the word art is going to cause problems in "some" browsers.
| | | You could take a screen shot of the logo, ( both lines ) paste into IrfanView and save it as an
| | | image and then use the image.
| | |
| | | Just a thought.
| | |
| | | If you want, email me and I'll do it and email it back. Takes about 30 seconds.
| | |
| | |
| | | --
| | | Steve Easton
| | | Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| | | 95isalive
| | | This site is best viewed............
| | | ........................with a computer
| | |
| | | | | | > As I am sure all of you are aware, I have been struggling with creating my site for quite some
| | | time now. I would just like to say THANK YOU to everyone that helped me through this challenging
| | | time. I am glad that I now have my site up and running; however, I know that it could still use a
| | | little bit of work, especially with the images. I will have to look into a photo editing program,
| | | but I need to take a short break from all of this. I was quite stressed over this whole ordeal but
| | | am really glad I attempted to do this for my husband, who is the owner of this business.
| | | >> I would GREATLY appreciate it if I could get some professional input on what I have done. This is
| | | my first one and I really would like some honest feedback so that I know what I should do for the
| | | next one. Ugh
| | | >> Please visit www.bikerburials.com and please believe me everyone, I am ready for some serious,
| | | professional critiquing.
| | | >> Thanks again for all of the help. I couldn't have done it without you!
| | | >

 

[Guest]

Thank you very much! As I mentioned in my other posting I just sent, I am not doing a thing today to my site. It is time for this girl to take a break

Have a great day


----- Stefan B Rusynko wrote: ----

Sent the

You can also see the newsgroups in Outlook Express usin
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--

____________________________________________
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"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.as
____________________________________________


| Stefan
| I just don't know what to do anymore. All this time I have been working on the changes and just tried to publish my site. Afte
numerous trys, it finally published but the buttons are still not right. I contacted my host but I have a funny feeling they aren'
going to know what the problem is. Am I doing something wrong? Can you please help

| Also, you said you attached three .gif's but I go through "communities" in Front Page so I can't receive any attachments. Ca
you send them to the e-mail address on the site. Ugh, I dread that people are seeing my site the way it is. How VER
unprofessional

| Thanks

| ----- Stefan B Rusynko wrote: ----

| The file names were typo
| (all should be .gif or .jpg - whatever image type you selected

| And you don't need 48 image
| - you only have 4 pages w/ 3 images each (12 total

| Delete all your interactive buttons and their images on all page
| (leave the 4 row table with empty cells
| On your home page create the 4 buttons w/ 3 states correctly using Insert Interactive Button

| Open your next page, switch to the home page and select a button and Edit Copy, then select the cell on the next page an
Edi
| paste. Continue w/ your other pages and buttons the same way
| That way the same set of images is in the same folder is used for all page

| Finally to deactivate a button on a page do the edit from my previous pos

| Attached are 3 .gifs for your word ar
| --

| ____________________________________________
| SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-
| To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see
| http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.as
| ____________________________________________


| | Stefan
| | Thank you so much. I didn't realize I should only use one-name folders. I have renamed the folder to "buttons." What
grea
| idea to rename the button images so that they would be more meaningful. Do you realize I have 48 buttons in my folder.
have fou
| buttons on a page and each button has 3 images to it. That's a lot of renaming but I will definitely do it. In your exampl

| noticed you had the first button renamed to a .gif and the other two .jpg. Why not all .gif or .jpg? I need to ask you wha
yo
| mean by "reapplying" my interactive buttons. Do I have to go through the whole process and recreate new buttons again? B
doin
| this, I would need to delete the existing buttons, correct
|
| | I don't think I have another way to create my logo other than with Word Art. Do I need a photo editing program to create
logo
| that will work on all browsers? I only have access to Microsoft Picture It Photo 7.0 or Microsoft Office Picture Manager.
| |
| | Thanks.
| |
| |
| | ----- Stefan B Rusynko wrote: -----
| |
| | You need to stop using / creating spaces in file and folder names
| | Your interactive buttons don't show because you saved the embedded files in a folder named
| | "Interactive Buttons" which becomes Interactive%20Buttons, but he scripts don't recognize the %20 added by the browser
| | Rename the folder named "Interactive Buttons" to say just : buttons
| | Then reapply your Interactive buttons, saving the embedded files to the new folder buttons
| | - you can also rename your embedded button image files to be more meaningful to you
| | (say for the home one to: home_n.gif, home_h.jpg, and home_p.jpg)
| |
| | Since you are using Interactive Buttons (and not shared borders or nav bars) which are just images and JavaScript in
your
| html pages
| | - You can easily disable the hyperlink for the appropriate button on each page (so it does not work as a hyperlink on
just
| that
| | page). Just select the Button, then switch to Code View and remove the hyperlink tag). For example on your home page
(using
| your
| | bad file names w/o correction) you would change:
| |
| | <td><a href="index.htm"><img border="0" id="img1" src="../Interactive%20Buttons/button1.jpg" height="20" width="100"
| alt="HOME" fp-style="fp-btn: Embossed
| | Rectangle 5; fp-orig: 0" fp-title="HOME"
| onmouseover="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/button2.jpg')"
| | onmouseout="FP_swapImg(0,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/button1.jpg')"
| | onmousedown="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/button3.jpg')"
| | onmouseup="FP_swapImg(0,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/button2.jpg')"></a></td>
| |
| | to just:
| |
| | <td><img border="0" id="img1" src="../Interactive%20Buttons/button1.jpg" height="20" width="100" alt="HOME"></td>
| |
| | Note: this will treat the image as just an image and not an interactive button
| | Then on the About page you would disable the about script and link tags
| |
| |
| | PS
| |
| | Trust you are aware your that your Word Art will not show on other than IE browsers
| | To have FP create .gif images for other users use
| | Tools Page Options Authoring and turn on Down-level Images under VML
| | (you will have to recreate your word art for FP to generate the images)
| |
| | Better still don't use Word art
| | --
| |
| | _____________________________________________
| | SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| | "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| | To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| | http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| | _____________________________________________
| |
| |
| | | Just wondering, can I do this same procedure in PhotoShop so that I can get my logo straightened out. I don't like
the
| fact that
| | some people may not be able to see the logo, especially since that is the first thing they see.
| | |
| | | Also, what does Tina mean "too much white space make a fluid template of 100%"?
| | |
| | | Thanks!
| | |
| | | ----- Steve Easton wrote: -----
| | |
| | | I like it. ;-)
| | | sweet simple ( simple meant as a compliment ) and to the point.
| | |
| | | 2 things I would change.
| | |
| | | 1. Each page has a link to itself
| | | 2. Get rid of the extra "empty"space at the bottom of the Home page.
| | |
| | | Comment: the VML used for the word art is going to cause problems in "some" browsers.
| | | You could take a screen shot of the logo, ( both lines ) paste into IrfanView and save it as an
| | | image and then use the image.
| | |
| | | Just a thought.
| | |
| | | If you want, email me and I'll do it and email it back. Takes about 30 seconds.
| | |
| | |
| | | --
| | | Steve Easton
| | | Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| | | 95isalive
| | | This site is best viewed............
| | | ........................with a computer
| | |
| | | | | | > As I am sure all of you are aware, I have been struggling with creating my site for quite some
| | | time now. I would just like to say THANK YOU to everyone that helped me through this challenging
| | | time. I am glad that I now have my site up and running; however, I know that it could still use a
| | | little bit of work, especially with the images. I will have to look into a photo editing program,
| | | but I need to take a short break from all of this. I was quite stressed over this whole ordeal but
| | | am really glad I attempted to do this for my husband, who is the owner of this business.
| | | >> I would GREATLY appreciate it if I could get some professional input on what I have done. This is
| | | my first one and I really would like some honest feedback so that I know what I should do for the
| | | next one. Ugh
| | | >> Please visit www.bikerburials.com and please believe me everyone, I am ready for some serious,
| | | professional critiquing.
| | | >> Thanks again for all of the help. I couldn't have done it without you!
| | | >

 

[Guest]

Stefan
Yes, I couldn't help myself. I had to get on the computer after a hard day of doing yard work. I am not making any changes to my site this evening, but I must say this can be addicting.

You mentioned that I shouldn't use Word Art. However, you gave me instructions on how to have FP create .gif images for other users. Tools Page Options Authoring and turn on Down-level Images under VML. Guess what, it is already on. Does this mean that my Word Art could be a .gif image but I just need to do something to make it such

Most people I have talked with say they can see the logo. However, I did have one person say they could not see it. I do not know what browser they are using as I didn't know at the time that this was going to be a problem.

Thanks


----- Stefan B Rusynko wrote: ----

Sent the

You can also see the newsgroups in Outlook Express usin
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--

____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.as
____________________________________________


| Stefan
| I just don't know what to do anymore. All this time I have been working on the changes and just tried to publish my site. Afte
numerous trys, it finally published but the buttons are still not right. I contacted my host but I have a funny feeling they aren'
going to know what the problem is. Am I doing something wrong? Can you please help

| Also, you said you attached three .gif's but I go through "communities" in Front Page so I can't receive any attachments. Ca
you send them to the e-mail address on the site. Ugh, I dread that people are seeing my site the way it is. How VER
unprofessional

| Thanks

| ----- Stefan B Rusynko wrote: ----

| The file names were typo
| (all should be .gif or .jpg - whatever image type you selected

| And you don't need 48 image
| - you only have 4 pages w/ 3 images each (12 total

| Delete all your interactive buttons and their images on all page
| (leave the 4 row table with empty cells
| On your home page create the 4 buttons w/ 3 states correctly using Insert Interactive Button

| Open your next page, switch to the home page and select a button and Edit Copy, then select the cell on the next page an
Edi
| paste. Continue w/ your other pages and buttons the same way
| That way the same set of images is in the same folder is used for all page

| Finally to deactivate a button on a page do the edit from my previous pos

| Attached are 3 .gifs for your word ar
| --

| ____________________________________________
| SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-
| To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see
| http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.as
| ____________________________________________


| | Stefan
| | Thank you so much. I didn't realize I should only use one-name folders. I have renamed the folder to "buttons." What
grea
| idea to rename the button images so that they would be more meaningful. Do you realize I have 48 buttons in my folder.
have fou
| buttons on a page and each button has 3 images to it. That's a lot of renaming but I will definitely do it. In your exampl
I
| noticed you had the first button renamed to a .gif and the other two .jpg. Why not all .gif or .jpg? I need to ask you what
you
| mean by "reapplying" my interactive buttons. Do I have to go through the whole process and recreate new buttons again? By
doing
| this, I would need to delete the existing buttons, correct?
| |
| | I don't think I have another way to create my logo other than with Word Art. Do I need a photo editing program to create a
logo
| that will work on all browsers? I only have access to Microsoft Picture It Photo 7.0 or Microsoft Office Picture Manager.
| |
| | Thanks.
| |
| |
| | ----- Stefan B Rusynko wrote: -----
| |
| | You need to stop using / creating spaces in file and folder names
| | Your interactive buttons don't show because you saved the embedded files in a folder named
| | "Interactive Buttons" which becomes Interactive%20Buttons, but he scripts don't recognize the %20 added by the browser
| | Rename the folder named "Interactive Buttons" to say just : buttons
| | Then reapply your Interactive buttons, saving the embedded files to the new folder buttons
| | - you can also rename your embedded button image files to be more meaningful to you
| | (say for the home one to: home_n.gif, home_h.jpg, and home_p.jpg)
| |
| | Since you are using Interactive Buttons (and not shared borders or nav bars) which are just images and JavaScript in
your
| html pages
| | - You can easily disable the hyperlink for the appropriate button on each page (so it does not work as a hyperlink on
just
| that
| | page). Just select the Button, then switch to Code View and remove the hyperlink tag). For example on your home page
(using
| your
| | bad file names w/o correction) you would change:
| |
| | <td><a href="index.htm"><img border="0" id="img1" src="../Interactive%20Buttons/button1.jpg" height="20" width="100"
| alt="HOME" fp-style="fp-btn: Embossed
| | Rectangle 5; fp-orig: 0" fp-title="HOME"
| onmouseover="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/button2.jpg')"
| | onmouseout="FP_swapImg(0,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/button1.jpg')"
| | onmousedown="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/button3.jpg')"
| | onmouseup="FP_swapImg(0,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/button2.jpg')"></a></td>
| |
| | to just:
| |
| | <td><img border="0" id="img1" src="../Interactive%20Buttons/button1.jpg" height="20" width="100" alt="HOME"></td>
| |
| | Note: this will treat the image as just an image and not an interactive button
| | Then on the About page you would disable the about script and link tags
| |
| |
| | PS
| |
| | Trust you are aware your that your Word Art will not show on other than IE browsers
| | To have FP create .gif images for other users use
| | Tools Page Options Authoring and turn on Down-level Images under VML
| | (you will have to recreate your word art for FP to generate the images)
| |
| | Better still don't use Word art
| | --
| |
| | _____________________________________________
| | SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| | "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| | To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| | http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| | _____________________________________________
| |
| |
| | | Just wondering, can I do this same procedure in PhotoShop so that I can get my logo straightened out. I don't like
the
| fact that
| | some people may not be able to see the logo, especially since that is the first thing they see.
| | |
| | | Also, what does Tina mean "too much white space make a fluid template of 100%"?
| | |
| | | Thanks!
| | |
| | | ----- Steve Easton wrote: -----
| | |
| | | I like it. ;-)
| | | sweet simple ( simple meant as a compliment ) and to the point.
| | |
| | | 2 things I would change.
| | |
| | | 1. Each page has a link to itself
| | | 2. Get rid of the extra "empty"space at the bottom of the Home page.
| | |
| | | Comment: the VML used for the word art is going to cause problems in "some" browsers.
| | | You could take a screen shot of the logo, ( both lines ) paste into IrfanView and save it as an
| | | image and then use the image.
| | |
| | | Just a thought.
| | |
| | | If you want, email me and I'll do it and email it back. Takes about 30 seconds.
| | |
| | |
| | | --
| | | Steve Easton
| | | Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| | | 95isalive
| | | This site is best viewed............
| | | ........................with a computer
| | |
| | | | | | > As I am sure all of you are aware, I have been struggling with creating my site for quite some
| | | time now. I would just like to say THANK YOU to everyone that helped me through this challenging
| | | time. I am glad that I now have my site up and running; however, I know that it could still use a
| | | little bit of work, especially with the images. I will have to look into a photo editing program,
| | | but I need to take a short break from all of this. I was quite stressed over this whole ordeal but
| | | am really glad I attempted to do this for my husband, who is the owner of this business.
| | | >> I would GREATLY appreciate it if I could get some professional input on what I have done. This is
| | | my first one and I really would like some honest feedback so that I know what I should do for the
| | | next one. Ugh
| | | >> Please visit www.bikerburials.com and please believe me everyone, I am ready for some serious,
| | | professional critiquing.
| | | >> Thanks again for all of the help. I couldn't have done it without you!
| | | >

 

[chris leeds]

generally FrontPage will make gif images along with the vml incase your
visitor isn't vml enabled. (the gifs are pretty weak) usually people will
make a screen shot of the vml word art and just use that.

HTH

--
The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all the
spam.
Please feel free to contact me here:
http://nedp.net/contact/
--

Stefan,
Yes, I couldn't help myself. I had to get on the computer after a hard

day of doing yard work. I am not making any changes to my site this
evening, but I must say this can be addicting.

You mentioned that I shouldn't use Word Art. However, you gave me

instructions on how to have FP create .gif images for other users. Tools
Page Options Authoring and turn on Down-level Images under VML. Guess what,
it is already on. Does this mean that my Word Art could be a .gif image but
I just need to do something to make it such?

Most people I have talked with say they can see the logo. However, I did

have one person say they could not see it. I do not know what browser they
are using as I didn't know at the time that this was going to be a problem.

Thanks.


----- Stefan B Rusynko wrote: -----

Sent them

You can also see the newsgroups in Outlook Express using
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.frontpage.client
--




| Stefan,
| I just don't know what to do anymore. All this time I have been

working on the changes and just tried to publish my site. After

numerous trys, it finally published but the buttons are still not

right. I contacted my host but I have a funny feeling they aren't

going to know what the problem is. Am I doing something wrong? Can you please help!
|
| Also, you said you attached three .gif's but I go through

"communities" in Front Page so I can't receive any attachments. Can

you send them to the e-mail address on the site. Ugh, I dread that

people are seeing my site the way it is. How VERY

unprofessional.
|
| Thanks.
|
| ----- Stefan B Rusynko wrote: -----
|
| The file names were typos
| (all should be .gif or .jpg - whatever image type you selected)
|
| And you don't need 48 images
| - you only have 4 pages w/ 3 images each (12 total)
|
| Delete all your interactive buttons and their images on all pages
| (leave the 4 row table with empty cells)
| On your home page create the 4 buttons w/ 3 states correctly

using Insert Interactive Buttons

|
| Open your next page, switch to the home page and select a

button and Edit Copy, then select the cell on the next page and

Edit
| paste. Continue w/ your other pages and buttons the same way.
| That way the same set of images is in the same folder is used for all pages
|
| Finally to deactivate a button on a page do the edit from my previous post
|
| Attached are 3 .gifs for your word art
| --
|
| _____________________________________________
| SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| _____________________________________________
|
|
| | Stefan,
| | Thank you so much. I didn't realize I should only use

one-name folders. I have renamed the folder to "buttons." What a

great
| idea to rename the button images so that they would be more

meaningful. Do you realize I have 48 buttons in my folder. I

have four
| buttons on a page and each button has 3 images to it. That's

a lot of renaming but I will definitely do it. In your example

I
| noticed you had the first button renamed to a .gif and the

other two .jpg. Why not all .gif or .jpg? I need to ask you what

you
| mean by "reapplying" my interactive buttons. Do I have to go

through the whole process and recreate new buttons again? By

doing
| this, I would need to delete the existing buttons, correct?
| |
| | I don't think I have another way to create my logo other

than with Word Art. Do I need a photo editing program to create a

logo
| that will work on all browsers? I only have access to

Microsoft Picture It Photo 7.0 or Microsoft Office Picture Manager.

| |
| | Thanks.
| |
| |
| | ----- Stefan B Rusynko wrote: -----
| |
| | You need to stop using / creating spaces in file and folder names
| | Your interactive buttons don't show because you saved

the embedded files in a folder named

| | "Interactive Buttons" which becomes

Interactive%20Buttons, but he scripts don't recognize the %20 added by the
browser

| | Rename the folder named "Interactive Buttons" to say just : buttons
| | Then reapply your Interactive buttons, saving the

embedded files to the new folder buttons

| | - you can also rename your embedded button image files to be more meaningful to you
| | (say for the home one to: home_n.gif, home_h.jpg, and home_p.jpg)
| |
| | Since you are using Interactive Buttons (and not shared

borders or nav bars) which are just images and JavaScript in

your
| html pages
| | - You can easily disable the hyperlink for the

appropriate button on each page (so it does not work as a hyperlink on

just
| that
| | page). Just select the Button, then switch to Code

View and remove the hyperlink tag). For example on your home page

(using
| your
| | bad file names w/o correction) you would change:
| |
| | <td><a href="index.htm"><img border="0" id="img1"

src="../Interactive%20Buttons/button1.jpg" height="20" width="100"

| alt="HOME" fp-style="fp-btn: Embossed
| | Rectangle 5; fp-orig: 0" fp-title="HOME"
| onmouseover="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/bu
tton2.jpg')"
| | onmouseout="FP_swapImg(0,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/but
ton1.jpg')"
| | onmousedown="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/bu
tton3.jpg')"
| |

onmouseup="FP_swapImg(0,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Interactive%20Buttons/butt

| |
| | to just:
| |
| | <td><img border="0" id="img1"

src="../Interactive%20Buttons/button1.jpg" height="20" width="100"

| |
| | Note: this will treat the image as just an image and not an interactive button
| | Then on the About page you would disable the about script and link tags
| |
| |
| | PS
| |
| | Trust you are aware your that your Word Art will not show on other than IE browsers
| | To have FP create .gif images for other users use
| | Tools Page Options Authoring and turn on Down-level Images under VML
| | (you will have to recreate your word art for FP to generate the images)
| |
| | Better still don't use Word art
| | --
| |
| | _____________________________________________
| | SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| | "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| | To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| | http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| | _____________________________________________
| |
| |
| | | Just wondering, can I do this same procedure in

PhotoShop so that I can get my logo straightened out. I don't like

the
| fact that
| | some people may not be able to see the logo, especially

since that is the first thing they see.

| | |
| | | Also, what does Tina mean "too much white space make a fluid template of 100%"?
| | |
| | | Thanks!
| | |
| | | ----- Steve Easton wrote: -----
| | |
| | | I like it. ;-)
| | | sweet simple ( simple meant as a compliment ) and to the point.
| | |
| | | 2 things I would change.
| | |
| | | 1. Each page has a link to itself
| | | 2. Get rid of the extra "empty"space at the bottom of the Home page.
| | |
| | | Comment: the VML used for the word art is going

to cause problems in "some" browsers.

| | | You could take a screen shot of the logo, ( both

lines ) paste into IrfanView and save it as an

| | | image and then use the image.
| | |
| | | Just a thought.
| | |
| | | If you want, email me and I'll do it and email

it back. Takes about 30 seconds.

| | |
| | |
| | | --
| | | Steve Easton
| | | Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| | | 95isalive
| | | This site is best viewed............
| | | ........................with a computer
| | |
| | | | | | > As I am sure all of you are aware, I have been

struggling with creating my site for quite some

| | | time now. I would just like to say THANK YOU to

everyone that helped me through this challenging

| | | time. I am glad that I now have my site up and

running; however, I know that it could still use a

| | | little bit of work, especially with the images.

I will have to look into a photo editing program,

| | | but I need to take a short break from all of

this. I was quite stressed over this whole ordeal but

| | | am really glad I attempted to do this for my

husband, who is the owner of this business.

| | | >> I would GREATLY appreciate it if I could get

some professional input on what I have done. This is

| | | my first one and I really would like some honest

feedback so that I know what I should do for the

| | | next one. Ugh
| | | >> Please visit www.bikerburials.com and please

believe me everyone, I am ready for some serious,