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Leythos
webworm12 said:
WalMart can only pressure those that have no other path - look at
WalMart as the next Microsoft, but MS doesn't need WalMart.
WalMart can only pressure those that have no other path - look at
WalMart as the next Microsoft, but MS doesn't need WalMart.
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Leythos
Wrong, according to Carey and the OEM builders site, which is what Carey
is quoting - the replacement of a DEFECTIVE motherboard is permitted as
long as it's approved by the OEM. Replacing the motherboard as part of
an upgrade is considered a new machine and is not permitted.
Get your facts correct - you've always been able to replace a
"Defective" motherboard with OEM permission and re-activate.
K
kurttrail
Leythos said:
How did I fail to understand that? Please quote me, and explain.
No. I explained that not one END USER agreed to follow a non-binding
password-protect MS SYSTEM BUILDERS web page.
That makes no sense.
You "explained why people say 'Comment was made about OEM and single
computer," only explanation for where the info they are stating comes
from - never implied anything else."
Big HUH?
But you don't say that applying a non-binding, never-agreed-to,
password-proected, SYSTEM BUILDERS webpage nonsense, about not being
able to change and/or upgrade a motherboard with OEM XP, on END USERS is
totally full of sh*t.
You give equal creedance to those that spread this SYSTEM BUILDER
nonsense to END USERS.
And as far as I'm concerned your are as much as a scumbag as those that
are lying to END USERS that this non-binding, never-agreed-to,
password-proected, SYSTEM BUILDERS webpage nonsense applies to them as
END USERS!
I definitely fail to grasp #3, as it makes absolutely no sense.
As for #4, I understand that by failing to expose those, like Carey,
that try to impose SYSTEM BUILDER nonsense on END USERS as the liars
that they are, you are tacitly condoning their lies.
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kurttrail
Leythos said:
Let Carey speak for himself.
I'm sorry, but I didn't meantion the OEM System Builders site, so that
has no bearing on my post.
Please quote where Carey said all that!
"If you install a new motherboard that is is not the same as the
original, and
you are using an OEM version of Windows XP, then this is considered a
"new
computer" and the OEM license is no longer considerd valid." - Carey
Frisch
And you should get your head examined, Lameboy. Your apologia in this
thread for Carey shows that you condone his lies, and makes you just as
bad as him!
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Leythos
Nice try - I list what was being said in order and you fail to
understand that this was a list in chronological order.
And I don't have a problem with your statement.
I explained "why" people say that a OEM install is tied to ONE computer
and ONE computer is defined as the motherboard. Notice I said I
explained WHY, not pushing the idea on anyone or end-users.
And since I didn't say it applied to ANYONE, and since that was never
part of my post, it's not relevant here. The reason people say an OEM
copy is tied to the first computer (motherboard) is based on what MS has
published on their OEM System Builders site. Notice, I didn't say it
applies to anyone or doesn't apply to anyone, I said THE REASON PEOPLE
MAKE THE STATEMENT IS BECAUSE OF INFO ON A MS SITE - and that's all I
said about it.
Nop, I only explained where they get the info for their position, not
taking sides with either - get it now?
I don't condone anything, and like you with your belief/interpretations,
I happen to believe, from all I've seen and read, that there is no free
license to make multiple installs of an OEM copy or a Retail Copy. What
I believe had nothing to do with my post and still doesn't have any
relevant position in this interaction - I only said that the reason they
make those statements is because of information on the OEM System
Builders site.
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Leythos
I see you forgot that I corrected Carey about that - nice that you can
forget that. I specifically posted that Carey was wrong and that you
could replace a defective motherboard under the OEM System Builders
agreement - and also that it was up to the OEM to approve it.
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kurttrail
Leythos said:
Huh? Yep, I failed to understand that not only are you condoning the
imposition of SYSTEM BUILDERS BS on END USERS, but that you are totally
friggin' insane.
What made you think that I failed to understand that the "Comment was
made about OEM and single computer?" Quote me, and explain, or continue
gibbering like an insane man. The choice is yours.
The problem is that you don't have a problem with END USERS being told,
by Carey, that they as END USERS must follow the non-binding
password-protect MS SYSTEM BUILDERS web page nonsense, and you even seem
to be apologizing for Carey, and condoning his lies.
And since you don't say that it is total nonsense. You seem to be
condoning people that are "pushing" it on others. And that makes you
just as cupable as the lying "pushers!"
LOL! Lameboy, since you are tacitly condoning morons, like Carey, doing
it, you are just as bad as they are.
LOL! You are as impartial as GWB talking about Saddam's WMDs.
1.) That equate liars with those of us that tell the truth, is, in
effect, taking the side of the liars.
2.) SYSTEM BUILDERS does not equal END USERS!
3.) END USERS *never* agreed to anything on the SYSTEM BUILDERS site!
4.) Telling END USERS that they are bound to words on the SYSTEM
BUILDER site is an outright lie!
5.) Not exposing those liars for what they are, is taciting condoning
their blatant outright lie!
You are #5, since you don't expose those you do #4, like Carey, for
liars.
By not exposing Carey as a blatant outright liar, you are condoning his
lies.
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kurttrail
Leythos said:
No you didn't. You replied to Don Burnette. YOU NEVER CONFRONTED
CAREY!
And then I challenged you to "Tell it to Carey," which you totally
ignored. Carey is not gonna change his tune as long as he sees morons
like you condoning his blatant outright lies. I doubt Carey even
understood what you meant to Don.
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Leythos
I didn't say they were bound to anything in this thread, so stop making
the assertion that I have or that they are/are not. I only mentioned the
system builders site in the context of Carey as an explanation of where
Carey (and other OEM's) gets the information about licensing/OEM
software.
Anything past the above is just you being an ass.
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Leythos
Un, lets see, Carey makes a post, another User questions it, I state
that Carey is wrong - in public - for all to see..... Without going back
to get Carey's actual post, that's as close to correcting Carey as
anyone needs to get - I'm sure that Carey understood it.
I bet Carey understands more about this thread an meaning that you seem
to today.
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kurttrail
Leythos said:
LOL! I didn't say you did.
But you take things out of context to try to make it look that way.
You didn't say they were bound, but you also don't say that they are not
bound.
There is no middle road. Either you are on the side of the lie, or you
are on the side of the truth, and you have yet to definitively say that
"Telling END USERS that they are bound to words on the SYSTEM BUILDER
site is an outright lie," and until you do, then you are on the side of
liars like Carey.
And as such, you tacitly are condoning Carey's lie. And in my book,
that make you just as bad and Carey and his lies.
I am an a**hole. But I'm an a**hole that is clearly on the side of the
truth, and I'm not gonna let liars, like Carey, nor apologists for
liars, like you get away with sh*tting on my fellow consumers, end
users, and human beings.
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kurttrail
Leythos said:
There you go talking for Carey again, Lameboy!
LOL! You two deserve each other. All you guys need is pcButthead, and
you can be the 3 Delusional Amigos!
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Greg Ro
x-no-archive
Actual you can get a volume license if your purchase more that 5
copies of xp.
You can transfer retail version if you removed it from the original
computer.
Kurt will argue you tell your blue in the face. You two need to agree
to disagree.
This posting was meant just to ask Alias a question and he answered
it.
Greg Ro
Actual you can get a volume license if your purchase more that 5
copies of xp.
You can transfer retail version if you removed it from the original
computer.
Kurt will argue you tell your blue in the face. You two need to agree
to disagree.
This posting was meant just to ask Alias a question and he answered
it.
Greg Ro
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kurttrail
Greg said:
Greg, F*#k off.
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GregRo
Kurtrail now entering the kill filter.
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kurttrail
GregRo said:
Thank God! Just make sure you do right!
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Leythos
I'm afraid that I don't agree with a lot of what you say about licensing
and I also feel that you advocate piracy and have no legal basis for
many of your claims, but I've stopped arguing with you about those as it
doesn't make sense to argue with a mad dog.
I didn't take any side in this thread, still not taking sides, just
pointed out where Carey and the likes get their info.
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Leythos
webworm12 said:
And do you think I would be stating that about "Volume" licenses as
everyone knows that volume licensing means more than 1?
Yep, we all agree with that - OEM is the only version that gets called
into question.
I agree, and I already know we're not going to agree, but I like to try
and get him to chat without diverging from facts once in a while - but
it's not possible in this thread.
Yep, but Usenet is PUBLIC and not email, so we you post IN PUBLIC you
should expect PUBLIC feedback.
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Leythos
Just make sure you make it a permanent kill filter or the next time you
reply to him he'll be sure to jump on you about it
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kurttrail
Leythos said:
Irrelevant to this discussion
And lie to END USERS that non-binding password-protect MS SYSTEM
BUILDERS web page nonsense applies to END USERS.
By not calling "Carey and the likes" on their lies to END USERS, you are
an accomplice after the fact.
I understand that you don't think you are their accomplice, but that is
what you are.
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