The main thing about DNS and registered domain name..

[Joe M]

Up till now I understand that you need a DNS server to have a record of your
registered domain name, eg. www.mydomain.com with a global static ip
203.145.145.145. But how do I get my DNS server to be recognised/published
on the internet for the domain registrar to see DNS server
203.145.145.145 is available and host the www.mydomain.com CName record /
Mx mail record???? The domain registrar would ask for a DNS in the form of
ns1.mydomain.com DNS server.

 

[Kevin D. Goodknecht [MVP]]

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Up till now I understand that you need a DNS server to have a record
of your registered domain name, eg. www.mydomain.com with a global
static ip 203.145.145.145. But how do I get my DNS server to be
recognised/published on the internet for the domain registrar to see
DNS server 203.145.145.145 is available and host the
www.mydomain.com CName record / Mx mail record???? The domain
registrar would ask for a DNS in the form of ns1.mydomain.com DNS
server.

Most registrars give you an option to register a DNS host name. Your DNS
host name must be registered and listed at the gTLD servers (.com .net .org)
for your domain name. Some make it easy to register DNS host names (like
Netsol) other you have to send them an email. BTW, www is not part of your
domain name it is a host in the domain zone. Log in to your domain account
with your registrar to find if you can register DNS hosts.

 

[Joe M]

Thanks Kevin,
My registrar has a web page that let's me put in the
two DNS Servers. But they do not take the global I P addresses of the DNS
servers, they only take the Wins names of the DNS servers, eg.
ns1.mydomain.com, ns2.mydomain.com.
And if the DNS servers wins name ns1.mydomain.com, ns2.mydomain.com is not
recognised on the net, it's not going to do anything.

 

[Kevin D. Goodknecht [MVP]]

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Thanks Kevin,
My registrar has a web page that let's me put in
the two DNS Servers. But they do not take the global I P addresses
of the DNS servers, they only take the Wins names of the DNS servers,
eg. ns1.mydomain.com, ns2.mydomain.com.
And if the DNS servers wins name ns1.mydomain.com, ns2.mydomain.com
is not recognised on the net, it's not going to do anything.

That is what I said, you must register your DNS host names. You have to do
that with your registrar, some make it easy, some don't. I know you can with
Netsol and DNS Complete I have no way of knowing who your registrar is so I
can not tell you if they make it easy. You will just have to dig around
their web site or send them an email and ask.

 

[Jeff Cochran]

My registrar has a web page that let's me put in the
two DNS Servers. But they do not take the global I P addresses of the DNS
servers, they only take the Wins names of the DNS servers, eg.
ns1.mydomain.com, ns2.mydomain.com.

That's not WINS...

And if the DNS servers wins name ns1.mydomain.com, ns2.mydomain.com is not
recognised on the net, it's not going to do anything.

If you already have the domain configured, you need to register the
server as a host. See your registrar's instructions for registering a
host, some make it quite simple, others don't.

Jeff

 

[Jonathan de Boyne Pollard]

JM> My registrar has a web page that let's [sic] me put in the
JM> two DNS Servers.

It should also have a(nother) web page that lets you create a mapping from the
(intermediate) domain names of your content DNS servers to their actual IP
addresses.

 

[Joe M]

Hi Jeff,
My registrar is www.iprimus.com.au, www.primusdomain.com . They
said they do not provide support for custom DNS servers. They expect the ISP
/ Web hosting to host the A DNS records. Or someone else to be the name
server (DNS server). They've suggest that I should registered the A Dns
record with a free DNS organisation . And I don't know how they could have
called themselves ICANN/auDA accredited registrar.
All I want is just when people type in www.mydomain.com it would take them
to my website. The website is hosted on my computer at web.mydomain.com and
I have already created the A and www record for it on my DNS server
dns.mydomain.com with global ip 203.145.145.145 . All I need to do is get
my DNS server dns.mydomain.com to be recognised on the internet. But how? Do
I tell my ISP to create the A record for dns.mydomain.com with global ip
203.145.145.145 on their DNS server???? Or is it the responsibility of the
domain registrar www.primusdomain.com to host the A record for
dns.mydomain.com as 203.145.145.145. All I need is the DNS servers
published. How??

 

[Kevin D. Goodknecht [MVP]]

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Hi Jeff,
My registrar is www.iprimus.com.au, www.primusdomain.com
. They said they do not provide support for custom DNS servers. They
expect the ISP / Web hosting to host the A DNS records. Or someone
else to be the name server (DNS server). They've suggest that I
should registered the A Dns record with a free DNS organisation . And
I don't know how they could have called themselves ICANN/auDA
accredited registrar.
All I want is just when people type in www.mydomain.com it would take
them to my website. The website is hosted on my computer at
web.mydomain.com and I have already created the A and www record for
it on my DNS server dns.mydomain.com with global ip 203.145.145.145
. All I need to do is get my DNS server dns.mydomain.com to be
recognised on the internet. But how? Do I tell my ISP to create the A
record for dns.mydomain.com with global ip 203.145.145.145 on their
DNS server???? Or is it the responsibility of the domain registrar
www.primusdomain.com to host the A record for dns.mydomain.com as
203.145.145.145. All I need is the DNS servers published. How??

The ISP cannot create your nameserver host records, It is up to the reseller
to set up the DNS host records. There used to be a generic page on the
Netsol web site for creating DNS host records, but I don't think it is
available now unless you registered the name with them and have an account.
Here is the Netsol link but I don't think it will do you any good.
https://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/manage-it/manage-nameservers.jhtml

If your current reseller does not do that then get your ISP to host the
zones for you. That is about your only choice at this point. Then find
another registrar or reseller and transfer your domain to them because these
guys should be able to do it for you. They just have an attitude I guess.

 

[Jeff Cochran]

To start, try to keep this to one thread. I answered in a different
one with most of what you ask here.

My registrar is www.iprimus.com.au, www.primusdomain.com . They
said they do not provide support for custom DNS servers. They expect the ISP
/ Web hosting to host the A DNS records. Or someone else to be the name
server (DNS server). They've suggest that I should registered the A Dns
record with a free DNS organisation . And I don't know how they could have
called themselves ICANN/auDA accredited registrar.

This isn't custom DNS, it's just the way DNS and registration works.
You can run your own DNS fine with Primus. You may not be able to
register a host with them. Not all registrars will register a host.

All I want is just when people type in www.mydomain.com it would take them
to my website. The website is hosted on my computer at web.mydomain.com and
I have already created the A and www record for it on my DNS server
dns.mydomain.com with global ip 203.145.145.145 . All I need to do is get
my DNS server dns.mydomain.com to be recognised on the internet. But how?

To start, your ISP could probably do this for you. In addition, your
IP address above doesn't answer to Ping or NSlookup by IP, so it's
never going to work no matter whether you register it as a host or
not, until it's available by IP. And to answer your question, again,
you need to REGISTER A HOST with your registrar. Or change registrars
to one that will do this. Once the host is registered, you can change
the name server information in your registration to point to it.
Likely you can only do a forward zone as your ISP probably doesn't
delegate the IP to you, but that should be fine.

Do
I tell my ISP to create the A record for dns.mydomain.com with global ip
203.145.145.145 on their DNS server????

Better would be to ask them to add your web server to their DNS and
skip running your own. Second best would be to use a Public DNS
service (Google "Free Public DNS"). Least desirable option would be
to run this yourself, especially given your skill and knowledge level.

Or is it the responsibility of the
domain registrar www.primusdomain.com to host the A record for
dns.mydomain.com as 203.145.145.145. All I need is the DNS servers
published. How??

Primus registered your domain name. The rest is up to you.

 

[Dodo]

I'll simplify what Kevin said...

Tell your registrar that you want to register the domain host
dns1.yourdomain.com at 203.145.145.145. If they say no or they don't know
what you're talking about, then transfer to a different registrar.

Any registrar worth it's weight in shit has a web interface for creating
domain hosts.

 

[Dodo]

I'll simplify what Kevin said...

Tell your registrar that you want to register the domain host
dns1.yourdomain.com at 203.145.145.145. If they say no or they don't know
what you're talking about, then transfer to a different registrar.

Any registrar should have a web interface for creating
domain hosts.

 

[Joe M]

Thanks Jonathan,
You clearly understand the problem. They do have a
page that puts in the DNS servers as ns1.mydomain.com, ns2.mydomain.com.
But they do not have the second page that create the mapping of DNS to their
actual IP addresses. If there was I wouldn't be so confused and didn't post
all these questions.

 

[Jonathan de Boyne Pollard]

JM> My registrar is www.iprimus.com.au, www.primusdomain.com . [...]

A company with no frequently given answers documents. A web site that demands
in order for some pages to be viewed at all that we render our browsers
insecure by enabling JavaScript. A web site with JavaScript doing the work
that can be perfectly adequately done with normal hyperlinks. A "help"
hyperlink that provides no help because it doesn't actually work at all, even
in a unsecured web browser. A registrar that provides no visible means for
determining how to register a "HOST" record, and no apparent documentation of
its registration process. And a registrar that tells you, when you ask how to
register "HOST" records, that it doesn't "provide support for custom DNS
servers" (which, for a registrar, given what the function of registrars is, is
simply moronic).

Your chosen registrar is rubbish. Have your money refunded and switch to a
better one. Vote with your wallet.