Text Bullet Format on Master Does not Retain on Slide Insert

[Bigfoot]

One of my master pages has the text set up with 4 levels of bullets. The
first line is not bulleted.

When I go to insert a new slide with this slide design, the text box does
not pick up the bullet format or tab settings

What do I need to do?

 

[Echo S]

This is an issue with PPT. It's like if the first level doesn't have a
bullet, it doesn't know what to do with the others.

If you use Alt+Shift+arrow to indent (or the indent icons), it should pick
up the 2nd level bullet.

Or did you mean the "manual" textboxes as opposed to "placeholders"?
Placeholders have "click to add text" promp text in them. I was talking
about how placeholders work.

"Manual" textboxes -- the ones you add from the Drawing toolbar -- are not
designed to pick up multiple levels of bullets. They just don't work that
way. They're really for short bits of text -- like picture and diagram
labels and such.

If that's what you need, you might check into the RnR ShapeStyles add-in.
http://www.pptools.com/shapestyles/index.html

 

[Bigfoot]

Echo S,

You were right on the bullet (pun intended) about the the other levels
needing a bullet on the first level to know what to do.

What I ended up doing to apply the KISS princaple for our sales force, was
to make the inital bullet white (all the content area for the PPT's have a
white bkgd) and have the indent set to align the initial paragraph

Working like a charm!!!

Thanks again!!!

This is an issue with PPT. It's like if the first level doesn't have a
bullet, it doesn't know what to do with the others.

If you use Alt+Shift+arrow to indent (or the indent icons), it should pick
up the 2nd level bullet.

Or did you mean the "manual" textboxes as opposed to "placeholders"?
Placeholders have "click to add text" promp text in them. I was talking
about how placeholders work.

"Manual" textboxes -- the ones you add from the Drawing toolbar -- are not
designed to pick up multiple levels of bullets. They just don't work that
way. They're really for short bits of text -- like picture and diagram
labels and such.

If that's what you need, you might check into the RnR ShapeStyles add-in.
http://www.pptools.com/shapestyles/index.html

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx

One of my master pages has the text set up with 4 levels of bullets. The
first line is not bulleted.

When I go to insert a new slide with this slide design, the text box does
not pick up the bullet format or tab settings

What do I need to do?

 

[Echo S]

I've had a number of clients take that route. I'm trying to remember any
gotchas. One is that the bullet, even though it's white on a white
background, will show if they print in black and white or grayscale. I think
you should test it with existing slides, too, before rolling it out -- paste
a few in and make sure they pick up the white bullet properly.

Oh yeah -- the bullet will show up (that is, be visible) when the user
begins typing, in which case they'll often remove the bullet manually. And
then the hanging indent will be off. So you'll still need to do some user
education there....

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx

Echo S,

You were right on the bullet (pun intended) about the the other levels
needing a bullet on the first level to know what to do.

What I ended up doing to apply the KISS princaple for our sales force, was
to make the inital bullet white (all the content area for the PPT's have a
white bkgd) and have the indent set to align the initial paragraph

Working like a charm!!!

Thanks again!!!

This is an issue with PPT. It's like if the first level doesn't have a
bullet, it doesn't know what to do with the others.

If you use Alt+Shift+arrow to indent (or the indent icons), it should
pick
up the 2nd level bullet.

Or did you mean the "manual" textboxes as opposed to "placeholders"?
Placeholders have "click to add text" promp text in them. I was talking
about how placeholders work.

"Manual" textboxes -- the ones you add from the Drawing toolbar -- are
not
designed to pick up multiple levels of bullets. They just don't work that
way. They're really for short bits of text -- like picture and diagram
labels and such.

If that's what you need, you might check into the RnR ShapeStyles add-in.
http://www.pptools.com/shapestyles/index.html

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx

One of my master pages has the text set up with 4 levels of bullets.
The
first line is not bulleted.

When I go to insert a new slide with this slide design, the text box
does
not pick up the bullet format or tab settings

What do I need to do?

 

[Bigfoot]

Echo S

I found a pretty easy solution to get around having to use a white bullet:

I went to my "bullets and Numbering" list and clicked on "Customize" and
scrolled to the very top left next to the "Exclamation" mark and above the
"0" and clicked on the "Space" bullet.

Its working perfectly

Thanks for the heads up

I've had a number of clients take that route. I'm trying to remember any
gotchas. One is that the bullet, even though it's white on a white
background, will show if they print in black and white or grayscale. I think
you should test it with existing slides, too, before rolling it out -- paste
a few in and make sure they pick up the white bullet properly.

Oh yeah -- the bullet will show up (that is, be visible) when the user
begins typing, in which case they'll often remove the bullet manually. And
then the hanging indent will be off. So you'll still need to do some user
education there....

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx

Echo S,

You were right on the bullet (pun intended) about the the other levels
needing a bullet on the first level to know what to do.

What I ended up doing to apply the KISS princaple for our sales force, was
to make the inital bullet white (all the content area for the PPT's have a
white bkgd) and have the indent set to align the initial paragraph

Working like a charm!!!

Thanks again!!!

This is an issue with PPT. It's like if the first level doesn't have a
bullet, it doesn't know what to do with the others.

If you use Alt+Shift+arrow to indent (or the indent icons), it should
pick
up the 2nd level bullet.

Or did you mean the "manual" textboxes as opposed to "placeholders"?
Placeholders have "click to add text" promp text in them. I was talking
about how placeholders work.

"Manual" textboxes -- the ones you add from the Drawing toolbar -- are
not
designed to pick up multiple levels of bullets. They just don't work that
way. They're really for short bits of text -- like picture and diagram
labels and such.

If that's what you need, you might check into the RnR ShapeStyles add-in.
http://www.pptools.com/shapestyles/index.html

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx


One of my master pages has the text set up with 4 levels of bullets.
The
first line is not bulleted.

When I go to insert a new slide with this slide design, the text box
does
not pick up the bullet format or tab settings

What do I need to do?

 

[Echo S]

Ah, yeah, that's a good one. Thanks for reporting back!

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx

Echo S

I found a pretty easy solution to get around having to use a white bullet:

I went to my "bullets and Numbering" list and clicked on "Customize" and
scrolled to the very top left next to the "Exclamation" mark and above the
"0" and clicked on the "Space" bullet.

Its working perfectly

Thanks for the heads up

I've had a number of clients take that route. I'm trying to remember any
gotchas. One is that the bullet, even though it's white on a white
background, will show if they print in black and white or grayscale. I
think
you should test it with existing slides, too, before rolling it out --
paste
a few in and make sure they pick up the white bullet properly.

Oh yeah -- the bullet will show up (that is, be visible) when the user
begins typing, in which case they'll often remove the bullet manually.
And
then the hanging indent will be off. So you'll still need to do some user
education there....

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx

Echo S,

You were right on the bullet (pun intended) about the the other levels
needing a bullet on the first level to know what to do.

What I ended up doing to apply the KISS princaple for our sales force,
was
to make the inital bullet white (all the content area for the PPT's
have a
white bkgd) and have the indent set to align the initial paragraph

Working like a charm!!!

Thanks again!!!

:

This is an issue with PPT. It's like if the first level doesn't have a
bullet, it doesn't know what to do with the others.

If you use Alt+Shift+arrow to indent (or the indent icons), it should
pick
up the 2nd level bullet.

Or did you mean the "manual" textboxes as opposed to "placeholders"?
Placeholders have "click to add text" promp text in them. I was
talking
about how placeholders work.

"Manual" textboxes -- the ones you add from the Drawing toolbar -- are
not
designed to pick up multiple levels of bullets. They just don't work
that
way. They're really for short bits of text -- like picture and diagram
labels and such.

If that's what you need, you might check into the RnR ShapeStyles
add-in.
http://www.pptools.com/shapestyles/index.html

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx


One of my master pages has the text set up with 4 levels of bullets.
The
first line is not bulleted.

When I go to insert a new slide with this slide design, the text box
does
not pick up the bullet format or tab settings

What do I need to do?