system file check

J

Jan Philips

I tried to run a system file check. It said to insert the XP SP3
disc. My computer came with something older (I don't remember which
SP, but it was about 2-1/2 years ago). Is there a way to run a SFC
without the SP3 disc?
 
A

Andrew E.

SFC doesnt check the files of a service pack,its checking the OS files that
are not in any SP.To run SFC,simply install a retail version of XP,exit the
menu page,SFC runs auto...If youre having problems,then the installation
directory might be at fault,xp has it as D:,the cdrom with xp cd in it must
match,or be changed in regedit...
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Andrew said:
SFC doesnt check the files of a service pack,its checking the OS files that
are not in any SP.To run SFC,simply install a retail version of XP,exit the
menu page,SFC runs auto...If youre having problems,then the installation
directory might be at fault,xp has it as D:,the cdrom with xp cd in it must
match,or be changed in regedit...

Must you always deliberately post the incorrect information?

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J

Jose

I tried to run a system file check.  It said to insert the XP SP3
disc.  My computer came with something older (I don't remember which
SP, but it was about 2-1/2 years ago).  Is there a way to run a SFC
without the SP3 disc?

Sure, you can run it the system file checker.

Click Start, Run and in the box enter:

sfc /scnnow

Unless your system has been compromised by malicious software or the
built in Windows File Protection function is broken SFC should find
nothing to do. It will give you a good feeling if it runs without
finding anything. If it finds something to do, you have now or have
had some other problem.

If you have SP3 installed and only posses an SP1 or SP2 installation
CD, running sfc /scannow will complain - a lot. The messages may not
be errors, but just informational messages. It will check 3498 files
that Windows considers important.

This is because it is trying to match and compare files and the
installed SP does not match up with what is on the installation CD.

You can read about why and perhaps make an adjustment to get it to
work by reading this article. It depends on your system:

http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

To prevent this, you can use your old XP installation CD to make a new
installation CD with SP3 included (slipstream) and then run sfc /
scannow using the up to date CD as a reference. This slipstreamed CD
is a good thing to have anyway in case you need to fix something some
other day.

Thinking that running sfc /scannow will work right out of the chute is
an expectation that generally exceeds reality unless you are prepared
in advance with an installation CD that matches your currently
installed service pack (usually you have to make such a CD).

It most certainly should run without a hitch when all the pieces are
in place and result in a warm fuzzy feeling, but I have personally
never seen it resolve any problem that was not caused by something
else and will never even recommend it, but that could just be me.

When it comes to shoot in the dark troubleshooting, the advice to "run
sfc /scannow" is rarely preceded by the "before you run sfc /
scannow..." advice which generates more confusion, concern and
questions shortly afterwards.

Please do try it though and see how you get on. It won't hurt
anything and you should want it to work. If it doesn't work, we can
try to make it work to make you feel better. It makes me feel better
to see it find nothing to do and not complain.

When sfc /scannow runs successfully, you will see a starting and
complete message in the Event Log. It can take a long time to run and
slow your system down - a lot. When it starts and stops succesfully
you will see events like this in the Event log:

Event Type: Information
Event Source: Windows File Protection
Event Category: None
Event ID: 64016
Windows File Protection file scan was started.

Event Type: Information
Event Source: Windows File Protection
Event Category: None
Event ID: 64017
Windows File Protection file scan completed successfully.

Note that sfc /scannow will not run in Safe Mode (try it) and will
generate this error if you do try it:

Windows File Protection could not initiate a scan of protected system
files.
The specific error code is 0x000006ba [The RPC server is
unavailable.].

You cannot start the RPC Server in Safe Mode either.

If you are having some particular issue of suspicious files, describe
what the issue is and we can help with that.
 
P

Peter Foldes

Jose

It should read sfc /scannow not sfc /scnnow

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I tried to run a system file check. It said to insert the XP SP3
disc. My computer came with something older (I don't remember which
SP, but it was about 2-1/2 years ago). Is there a way to run a SFC
without the SP3 disc?

Sure, you can run it the system file checker.

Click Start, Run and in the box enter:

sfc /scnnow

Unless your system has been compromised by malicious software or the
built in Windows File Protection function is broken SFC should find
nothing to do. It will give you a good feeling if it runs without
finding anything. If it finds something to do, you have now or have
had some other problem.

If you have SP3 installed and only posses an SP1 or SP2 installation
CD, running sfc /scannow will complain - a lot. The messages may not
be errors, but just informational messages. It will check 3498 files
that Windows considers important.

This is because it is trying to match and compare files and the
installed SP does not match up with what is on the installation CD.

You can read about why and perhaps make an adjustment to get it to
work by reading this article. It depends on your system:

http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

To prevent this, you can use your old XP installation CD to make a new
installation CD with SP3 included (slipstream) and then run sfc /
scannow using the up to date CD as a reference. This slipstreamed CD
is a good thing to have anyway in case you need to fix something some
other day.

Thinking that running sfc /scannow will work right out of the chute is
an expectation that generally exceeds reality unless you are prepared
in advance with an installation CD that matches your currently
installed service pack (usually you have to make such a CD).

It most certainly should run without a hitch when all the pieces are
in place and result in a warm fuzzy feeling, but I have personally
never seen it resolve any problem that was not caused by something
else and will never even recommend it, but that could just be me.

When it comes to shoot in the dark troubleshooting, the advice to "run
sfc /scannow" is rarely preceded by the "before you run sfc /
scannow..." advice which generates more confusion, concern and
questions shortly afterwards.

Please do try it though and see how you get on. It won't hurt
anything and you should want it to work. If it doesn't work, we can
try to make it work to make you feel better. It makes me feel better
to see it find nothing to do and not complain.

When sfc /scannow runs successfully, you will see a starting and
complete message in the Event Log. It can take a long time to run and
slow your system down - a lot. When it starts and stops succesfully
you will see events like this in the Event log:

Event Type: Information
Event Source: Windows File Protection
Event Category: None
Event ID: 64016
Windows File Protection file scan was started.

Event Type: Information
Event Source: Windows File Protection
Event Category: None
Event ID: 64017
Windows File Protection file scan completed successfully.

Note that sfc /scannow will not run in Safe Mode (try it) and will
generate this error if you do try it:

Windows File Protection could not initiate a scan of protected system
files.
The specific error code is 0x000006ba [The RPC server is
unavailable.].

You cannot start the RPC Server in Safe Mode either.

If you are having some particular issue of suspicious files, describe
what the issue is and we can help with that.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

When does the contract finally end ?



Alas, Andrew E's regular posting of misinformation is very likely not
done deliberately. It's mostly just that he knows next to nothing, and
posts misinformation that he thinks is correct.
 
Y

ybS2okj

Alas, Andrew E's regular posting of misinformation is very likely not
done deliberately. It's mostly just that he knows next to nothing, and
posts misinformation that he thinks is correct.

So you can see all this from a distance! Is it because of your experience
of misinformation, lies and rubbish over the years? Did you not want to get
a proper training so that you can be an asset to the society in which you
live?

Senility must be affecting you in your advanced age!
 
J

Jose

Jose

It should read sfc /scannow not sfc /scnnow

--
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Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.


I tried to run a system file check. It said to insert the XP SP3
disc. My computer came with something older (I don't remember which
SP, but it was about 2-1/2 years ago). Is there a way to run a SFC
without the SP3 disc?

Sure, you can run it the system file checker.

Click Start, Run and in the box enter:

sfc /scnnow

Unless your system has been compromised by malicious software or the
built in Windows File Protection function is broken SFC should find
nothing to do.  It will give you a good feeling if it runs without
finding anything.  If it finds something to do, you have now or have
had some other problem.

If you have SP3 installed and only posses an SP1 or SP2 installation
CD, running sfc /scannow will complain - a lot.  The messages may not
be errors, but just informational messages.  It will check 3498 files
that Windows considers important.

This is because it is trying to match and compare files and the
installed SP does not match up with what is on the installation CD.

You can read about why and perhaps make an adjustment to get it to
work by reading this article.  It depends on your system:

http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

To prevent this, you can use your old XP installation CD to make a new
installation CD with SP3 included (slipstream) and then run sfc /
scannow using the up to date CD as a reference.  This slipstreamed CD
is a good thing to have anyway in case you need to fix something some
other day.

Thinking that running sfc /scannow will work right out of the chute is
an expectation that generally exceeds reality unless you are prepared
in advance with an installation CD that matches your currently
installed service pack (usually you have to make such a CD).

It most certainly should run without a hitch when all the pieces are
in place and result in a warm fuzzy feeling, but I have personally
never seen it resolve any problem that was not caused by something
else and will never even recommend it, but that could just be me.

When it comes to shoot in the dark troubleshooting, the advice to "run
sfc /scannow" is rarely preceded by the "before you run sfc /
scannow..." advice which generates more confusion, concern and
questions shortly afterwards.

Please do try it though and see how you get on.  It won't hurt
anything and you should want it to work.  If it doesn't work, we can
try to make it work to make you feel better.  It makes me feel better
to see it find nothing to do and not complain.

When sfc /scannow runs successfully, you will see a starting and
complete message in the Event Log.  It can take a long time to run and
slow your system down - a lot.  When it starts and stops succesfully
you will see events like this in the Event log:

Event Type: Information
Event Source: Windows File Protection
Event Category: None
Event ID: 64016
Windows File Protection file scan was started.

Event Type: Information
Event Source: Windows File Protection
Event Category: None
Event ID: 64017
Windows File Protection file scan completed successfully.

Note that sfc /scannow will not run in Safe Mode (try it) and will
generate this error if you do try it:

Windows File Protection could not initiate a scan of protected system
files.
The specific error code is 0x000006ba [The RPC server is
unavailable.].

You cannot start the RPC Server in Safe Mode either.

If you are having some particular issue of suspicious files, describe
what the issue is and we can help with that.

Typo! Should be to run the system file checker, in the Start, Run
box enter:

sfc /scannow
 
R

Railhound

I agree with your point but what has happened to me is my anti virus software
F-Secure has damaged some files. In fact, I would suggest that a good many
things that are report here and in other palces are due to anti-virsus
software erroneously deleting certian files.

Anyway, I would like to run the SFC program but my Windoiws version is an
OEM version so I don't have the original CDs only a recovery copy so I can't
make a slipstrem version of SP3 (at least not that I know of).

Any suggestions to get the correct files for SFC to repair them?

Jose said:
I tried to run a system file check. It said to insert the XP SP3
disc. My computer came with something older (I don't remember which
SP, but it was about 2-1/2 years ago). Is there a way to run a SFC
without the SP3 disc?

Sure, you can run it the system file checker.

Click Start, Run and in the box enter:

sfc /scnnow

Unless your system has been compromised by malicious software or the
built in Windows File Protection function is broken SFC should find
nothing to do. It will give you a good feeling if it runs without
finding anything. If it finds something to do, you have now or have
had some other problem.

If you have SP3 installed and only posses an SP1 or SP2 installation
CD, running sfc /scannow will complain - a lot. The messages may not
be errors, but just informational messages. It will check 3498 files
that Windows considers important.

This is because it is trying to match and compare files and the
installed SP does not match up with what is on the installation CD.

You can read about why and perhaps make an adjustment to get it to
work by reading this article. It depends on your system:

http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

To prevent this, you can use your old XP installation CD to make a new
installation CD with SP3 included (slipstream) and then run sfc /
scannow using the up to date CD as a reference. This slipstreamed CD
is a good thing to have anyway in case you need to fix something some
other day.

Thinking that running sfc /scannow will work right out of the chute is
an expectation that generally exceeds reality unless you are prepared
in advance with an installation CD that matches your currently
installed service pack (usually you have to make such a CD).

It most certainly should run without a hitch when all the pieces are
in place and result in a warm fuzzy feeling, but I have personally
never seen it resolve any problem that was not caused by something
else and will never even recommend it, but that could just be me.

When it comes to shoot in the dark troubleshooting, the advice to "run
sfc /scannow" is rarely preceded by the "before you run sfc /
scannow..." advice which generates more confusion, concern and
questions shortly afterwards.

Please do try it though and see how you get on. It won't hurt
anything and you should want it to work. If it doesn't work, we can
try to make it work to make you feel better. It makes me feel better
to see it find nothing to do and not complain.

When sfc /scannow runs successfully, you will see a starting and
complete message in the Event Log. It can take a long time to run and
slow your system down - a lot. When it starts and stops succesfully
you will see events like this in the Event log:

Event Type: Information
Event Source: Windows File Protection
Event Category: None
Event ID: 64016
Windows File Protection file scan was started.

Event Type: Information
Event Source: Windows File Protection
Event Category: None
Event ID: 64017
Windows File Protection file scan completed successfully.

Note that sfc /scannow will not run in Safe Mode (try it) and will
generate this error if you do try it:

Windows File Protection could not initiate a scan of protected system
files.
The specific error code is 0x000006ba [The RPC server is
unavailable.].

You cannot start the RPC Server in Safe Mode either.

If you are having some particular issue of suspicious files, describe
what the issue is and we can help with that.

.
 
J

Jose

I agree with your point but what has happened to me is my anti virus software
 F-Secure has damaged some files. In fact, I would suggest that a good many
things that are report here and in other palces are due to anti-virsus
software erroneously deleting certian files.

Anyway, I would like to run the SFC program but my Windoiws version is an
OEM version so I don't have the original CDs only a recovery copy so I can't
make a slipstrem version of SP3 (at least not that I know of).

Any suggestions to get the correct files for SFC to repair them?



Sure, you can run it the system file checker.
Click Start, Run and in the box enter:
sfc /scnnow
Unless your system has been compromised by malicious software or the
built in Windows File Protection function is broken SFC should find
nothing to do.  It will give you a good feeling if it runs without
finding anything.  If it finds something to do, you have now or have
had some other problem.
If you have SP3 installed and only posses an SP1 or SP2 installation
CD, running sfc /scannow will complain - a lot.  The messages may not
be errors, but just informational messages.  It will check 3498 files
that Windows considers important.
This is because it is trying to match and compare files and the
installed SP does not match up with what is on the installation CD.
You can read about why and perhaps make an adjustment to get it to
work by reading this article.  It depends on your system:

To prevent this, you can use your old XP installation CD to make a new
installation CD with SP3 included (slipstream) and then run sfc /
scannow using the up to date CD as a reference.  This slipstreamed CD
is a good thing to have anyway in case you need to fix something some
other day.
Thinking that running sfc /scannow will work right out of the chute is
an expectation that generally exceeds reality unless you are prepared
in advance with an installation CD that matches your currently
installed service pack (usually you have to make such a CD).
It most certainly should run without a hitch when all the pieces are
in place and result in a warm fuzzy feeling, but I have personally
never seen it resolve any problem that was not caused by something
else and will never even recommend it, but that could just be me.
When it comes to shoot in the dark troubleshooting, the advice to "run
sfc /scannow" is rarely preceded by the "before you run sfc /
scannow..." advice which generates more confusion, concern and
questions shortly afterwards.
Please do try it though and see how you get on.  It won't hurt
anything and you should want it to work.  If it doesn't work, we can
try to make it work to make you feel better.  It makes me feel better
to see it find nothing to do and not complain.
When sfc /scannow runs successfully, you will see a starting and
complete message in the Event Log.  It can take a long time to run and
slow your system down - a lot.  When it starts and stops succesfully
you will see events like this in the Event log:
Event Type:        Information
Event Source:      Windows File Protection
Event Category:    None
Event ID:  64016
Windows File Protection file scan was started.
Event Type:        Information
Event Source:      Windows File Protection
Event Category:    None
Event ID:  64017
Windows File Protection file scan completed successfully.
Note that sfc /scannow will not run in Safe Mode (try it) and will
generate this error if you do try it:
Windows File Protection could not initiate a scan of protected system
files.
The specific error code is 0x000006ba [The RPC server is
unavailable.].
You cannot start the RPC Server in Safe Mode either.
If you are having some particular issue of suspicious files, describe
what the issue is and we can help with that.

Some AV softwares seem to quarantine/delete XP files. I will just say
it must be by mistake...

So far, when I have encountered those situations I have always been
able to fix it and not using sfc /scannow (which should never find
anything to do if your system is not otherwise afflicted). Usually
the system will not even boot afterwards so that makes these things
even more fun!

If your installed SP does not match your installation CD or you only
have some system recovery CD, you are likely to get quickly frustrated
with sfc /scannow. Even if it "works" I have never seen it resolve
any XP problem, but it feels good when it runs successfully.

It is also frustrating to see it suggested as something "to try" when
the necessary parts and pieces to get it to run are not included in
the suggestion as a requirement for it do behave. This results in
more Q&A back and forth and the problem continues to fester.

What is the nature of your system affliction that you think sfc /
scannow will remedy?
 

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