Symbol file missing...

[Zadig Galbaras]

Hi!

My computer is stalling and rebooting seemingly unmotivated these days.

I have consulted Dr. Watson and she says:
*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found. Defaulted to export symbols for
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll -
funksjon: ntdll!KiFastSystemCallRet

--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----

 

[Zadig Galbaras]

Sorry about that abrupt sending of an unfinished letter. Here comes the
whole letter... :-(

Hi!

My computer is stalling and rebooting seemingly unmotivated these days.

I have consulted Dr. Watson and she says:
*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found. Defaulted to export symbols for
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll - funksjon: ntdll!KiFastSystemCallRet

What is a symbol file and how can I fix this file?
I have downloaded and installed WinDbg, but that's way above my league

WindowsXP SP2 Pro Norwegian
On a feisty self built modern noname computer

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Same as in microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

In my opinion screwing around with Dr. Watson is a waste of time.

How to Install Symbols for Dr. Watson Error Debugging
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;141465

HOWTO: Use Rebase to Extract Symbols for DrWtSn32.exe
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;258205

As near as I can tell, Dr Watson is virtually worthless without the symbols.
Download Windows Symbol Packages
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/ddk/debugging/symbolpkg.mspx#Windows symbol packages

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Hi!

My computer is stalling and rebooting seemingly unmotivated these days.

I have consulted Dr. Watson and she says:
*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found. Defaulted to export symbols
for C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll - funksjon: ntdll!KiFastSystemCallRet

What is a symbol file and how can I fix this file?
I have downloaded and installed WinDbg, but that's way above my league

WindowsXP SP2 Pro Norwegian
On a feisty self built modern noname computer

--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

 

[Zadig Galbaras]

Downloading file now....
I have picked my computer apart and reassembled it again, and checked the
RAM strips one by one.
What made me squint hatefully towards the hardware was the fact that three
hours ago I put in a brand new 80GB harddisk I bought yesterday, formatted
it and installed WINXP.
Even then the same problems occurred!
I am still flabbergasted!!
Therefore I know have taken out three of my four 512MB RAM strips and the
system seems a little more stable, but not cured. But in addition to that I
have also dismantled my SATA2 card and the SATA2 0.5TeraByte harddisk. But
the problem occurred long before that monster was fitted into my new
cabinet.

If that symbol files are so very important to Windows, why aren't problems
like this solved during a "SFC /scannow" session?

The ultimate test is to run Winamp. That provoked an error right away. I run
it three minutes ago, and it produced the error right away.
Will try to reinstall it.
But I am still wondering how this error can prevail in a fresh installation
on a unused harddisk??!??
My AVG viruskiller reports nothing wrong.
My Spyboot Search & Destroy, and his start menu neighbor Spyware Doctor
reports a mean clean computer machine.
The download is now at 41%. The clock is 01:44 AM.
I must be a nerd!!

 

[Zadig Galbaras]

Things are looking up...
Uninstalled Winamp, and deleted all it's remaining folders, and reinstalled
with the classic skin, and it run errorless!
Did a reinstall of my Office 2003 too, and now I can run Outlook without
problems.
Can these symbol files be reestablished by reinstalling all the software
having problem with the symbol files?

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Interpreting DrWtsn32.log File to Identify Program Crash Data
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q246084/

Dr. Watson also records an
entry in the Event Viewer Application Log containing the program name, date,
time, exception number, exception name, program counter, and function name
at the current program counter, as well as the complete diagnostic
information that was logged for that error.

Event ID & the Event Source are very important.

To open the Event Viewer...
Start | Run | Type: eventvwr | Clcik OK

For any Events that seem related to the problem...

Double click the event in Event Viewer | Click: the button below the second
arrow (looks like two pages) [[Copies the details of the event to the
Clipboard.]] | Paste into Notepad | Click:
For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

Read all info | Copy and paste to Notepad | Click the [+] Related Knowledge
Base articles | Follow any links that might be useful

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427

Event Viewer overview
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/.../xp/all/proddocs/en-us/event_overview_01.mspx

This can also be very useful.
You need to have the Event ID & the Event Source.

To view Windows XP Events and Errors, type the Source (for example, Print)
and/or the Event code (for example, 20) into the ID field, then click the Go
button. Source and Event codes may be found in the Event Viewer logs.

Windows XP Home/Professional Events and Errors
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/su...ows Operating System&MajorMinor=5.1&LCID=1033
--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

 

[Zadig Galbaras]

Hi Wesley...

Things are looking up.
During an all-nighter last night, I started to somewhat see a pattern here.
It seems like I have to not only reinstall every problem making software,
but I have to perform a uninstall first.

The problem now is to make my keyboard function during boot up so I can
start this darn thing in security mode.

Thank you very much for showing me the EventViewer.
Right now it is my MSN Messenger which is causing problems.
Have uninstalled it now, and will download and install it in a minute or so.

I'll keep you posted....
--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----

Interpreting DrWtsn32.log File to Identify Program Crash Data
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q246084/

Dr. Watson also records an
entry in the Event Viewer Application Log containing the program name,
date,
time, exception number, exception name, program counter, and function name
at the current program counter, as well as the complete diagnostic
information that was logged for that error.

Event ID & the Event Source are very important.

To open the Event Viewer...
Start | Run | Type: eventvwr | Clcik OK

For any Events that seem related to the problem...

Double click the event in Event Viewer | Click: the button below the
second
arrow (looks like two pages) [[Copies the details of the event to the
Clipboard.]] | Paste into Notepad | Click:
For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

Read all info | Copy and paste to Notepad | Click the [+] Related
Knowledge
Base articles | Follow any links that might be useful

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427

Event Viewer overview
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/.../xp/all/proddocs/en-us/event_overview_01.mspx

This can also be very useful.
You need to have the Event ID & the Event Source.

To view Windows XP Events and Errors, type the Source (for example, Print)
and/or the Event code (for example, 20) into the ID field, then click the
Go
button. Source and Event codes may be found in the Event Viewer logs.

Windows XP Home/Professional Events and Errors
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/su...ows Operating System&MajorMinor=5.1&LCID=1033
--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Things are looking up...
Uninstalled Winamp, and deleted all it's remaining folders, and
reinstalled with the classic skin, and it run errorless!
Did a reinstall of my Office 2003 too, and now I can run Outlook without
problems.
Can these symbol files be reestablished by reinstalling all the software
having problem with the symbol files?

--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic

 

[Zadig Galbaras]

Now the two 80GB and teh 500GB SATA drives are up and runnign smooth.
just minor problems originating from MSN Messenger and Googles Deskbar.

Things are really looknig up.

It seems that errors concerning symbols files are best dealt with by
reinstalling all software causing troubles, OS inculded.

--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----

Hi Wesley...

Things are looking up.
During an all-nighter last night, I started to somewhat see a pattern
here.
It seems like I have to not only reinstall every problem making software,
but I have to perform a uninstall first.

The problem now is to make my keyboard function during boot up so I can
start this darn thing in security mode.

Thank you very much for showing me the EventViewer.
Right now it is my MSN Messenger which is causing problems.
Have uninstalled it now, and will download and install it in a minute or
so.

I'll keep you posted....
--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----

Interpreting DrWtsn32.log File to Identify Program Crash Data
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q246084/

Dr. Watson also records an
entry in the Event Viewer Application Log containing the program name,
date,
time, exception number, exception name, program counter, and function
name
at the current program counter, as well as the complete diagnostic
information that was logged for that error.

Event ID & the Event Source are very important.

To open the Event Viewer...
Start | Run | Type: eventvwr | Clcik OK

For any Events that seem related to the problem...

Double click the event in Event Viewer | Click: the button below the
second
arrow (looks like two pages) [[Copies the details of the event to the
Clipboard.]] | Paste into Notepad | Click:
For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

Read all info | Copy and paste to Notepad | Click the [+] Related
Knowledge
Base articles | Follow any links that might be useful

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427

Event Viewer overview
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/.../xp/all/proddocs/en-us/event_overview_01.mspx

This can also be very useful.
You need to have the Event ID & the Event Source.

To view Windows XP Events and Errors, type the Source (for example,
Print)
and/or the Event code (for example, 20) into the ID field, then click the
Go
button. Source and Event codes may be found in the Event Viewer logs.

Windows XP Home/Professional Events and Errors
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/su...ows Operating System&MajorMinor=5.1&LCID=1033
--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Things are looking up...
Uninstalled Winamp, and deleted all it's remaining folders, and
reinstalled with the classic skin, and it run errorless!
Did a reinstall of my Office 2003 too, and now I can run Outlook without
problems.
Can these symbol files be reestablished by reinstalling all the software
having problem with the symbol files?

--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----


"Zadig Galbaras" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
Downloading file now....
I have picked my computer apart and reassembled it again, and checked
the
RAM strips one by one.
What made me squint hatefully towards the hardware was the fact that
three hours ago I put in a brand new 80GB harddisk I bought yesterday,
formatted it and installed WINXP.
Even then the same problems occurred!
I am still flabbergasted!!
Therefore I know have taken out three of my four 512MB RAM strips and
the
system seems a little more stable, but not cured. But in addition to
that
I have also dismantled my SATA2 card and the SATA2 0.5TeraByte
harddisk.
But the problem occurred long before that monster was fitted into my
new
cabinet.

If that symbol files are so very important to Windows, why aren't
problems like this solved during a "SFC /scannow" session?

The ultimate test is to run Winamp. That provoked an error right away.
I
run it three minutes ago, and it produced the error right away.
Will try to reinstall it.
But I am still wondering how this error can prevail in a fresh
installation on a unused harddisk??!??
My AVG viruskiller reports nothing wrong.
My Spyboot Search & Destroy, and his start menu neighbor Spyware Doctor
reports a mean clean computer machine.
The download is now at 41%. The clock is 01:44 AM.
I must be a nerd!!

--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----


"Wesley Vogel" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
Same as in microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

In my opinion screwing around with Dr. Watson is a waste of time.

How to Install Symbols for Dr. Watson Error Debugging
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;141465

HOWTO: Use Rebase to Extract Symbols for DrWtSn32.exe
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;258205

As near as I can tell, Dr Watson is virtually worthless without the
symbols.
Download Windows Symbol Packages
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/ddk/debugging/symbolpkg.mspx#Windows symbol packages

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Zadig Galbaras <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Hi!

My computer is stalling and rebooting seemingly unmotivated these
days.

I have consulted Dr. Watson and she says:
*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found. Defaulted to export
symbols
for C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll - funksjon:
ntdll!KiFastSystemCallRet

What is a symbol file and how can I fix this file?
I have downloaded and installed WinDbg, but that's way above my
league

WindowsXP SP2 Pro Norwegian
On a feisty self built modern noname computer

--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Zadig Galbaras <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Sorry about that abrupt sending of an unfinished letter. Here comes
the
whole letter... :-(

Hi!

My computer is stalling and rebooting seemingly unmotivated these
days.

I have consulted Dr. Watson and she says:
*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found. Defaulted to export
symbols
for C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll - funksjon:
ntdll!KiFastSystemCallRet

What is a symbol file and how can I fix this file?
I have downloaded and installed WinDbg, but that's way above my
league


WindowsXP SP2 Pro Norwegian
On a feisty self built modern noname computer

--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----


"Zadig Galbaras" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
Hi!

My computer is stalling and rebooting seemingly unmotivated these
days.

I have consulted Dr. Watson and she says:
*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found. Defaulted to export
symbols for C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll -
funksjon: ntdll!KiFastSystemCallRet

--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Hi Zadig,

Since you seem so interested in Dr. Watson, I'm gonna give you everything I
have on it. I lost interest a long time ago. If I have an application that
keeps crashing, I either uninstall and reinstall it and/or look for updates
for that application.

Dr. Watson Help
%windir%\Help\drwtsn32.chm

Dr. Watson
http://www.wown.com/kbase/WindowsTips/WindowsNT/RegistryTips/Utilities/DrWatson.html

Dr. Watson overview
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/.../xp/all/proddocs/en-us/drwatson_overview.mspx

Setting up Dr. Watson
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/drwatson_setup.mspx

Working with Dr. Watson
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/drwatson_options.mspx

Using Dr. Watson
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/app_dr_watson.mspx

Using the Dr. Watson log file
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/drwatson_logfile.mspx

How to Install Symbols for Dr. Watson Error Debugging
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;141465

HOWTO: Use Rebase to Extract Symbols for DrWtSn32.exe
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;258205

Download Windows Symbol Packages
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/ddk/debugging/symbolpkg.mspx#Windows symbol packages

Dr. Watson Fails to Appear Because of Long File Names in Path
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q175644/

Dr. Watson Does Not Run with Certain Extensible Counters
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q234860/

Dr. Watson Causing Fault in USER32
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q175875/

Random Dr. Watson Errors in Services.exe
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q219602/

Error 87 and Dr. Watson
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q162623/

Interpreting DrWtsn32.log File to Identify Program Crash Data
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q246084/

Dr. Watson Log File May Not Contain Task List
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;214791

Specifying the Debugger for Unhandled User Mode Exceptions
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q121434/

-----

Dr. Watson

Log File Path:
[[The default location is the Documents and Settings\All users\Application
Data\Microsoft\Dr Watson folder, which is created when you first run Dr.
Watson. Dr. Watson will create the Drwtsn32.log file containing the
diagnostic information about program errors in this folder.]]

Crash Dump:
[[The crash dump file must be specified if you select the Create Crash Dump
File check box. The default is Documents and Settings\All users\Application
Data\Microsoft\Dr Watson\user.dmp. The crash dump file is a binary file that
can be loaded into a debugger. Click Browse to select a different crash dump
file or location.
Be sure that the path specified is one to which all users have Write
permission. If Dr. Watson cannot use the path specified when a crash dump
file is created, the File Open dialog box appears for you to specify a new
path.]]

Wave File:
[[Dr. Watson uses a WAV file to play a sound when an application error
occurs. The file name must have a .wav extension and must conform to the
Microsoft WAV file format. If you can play a WAV file using Media Player,
the file is a valid WAV file. This option is not available if you do not
have a sound card. Click Browse to locate the WAV file you want to use.]]

Number of Instructions:
[[Specifies the maximum number of instructions that Dr. Watson will
disassemble before and after the current program counter for each thread
state dump. The program counter is a computer register that contains the
memory location for a thread's current point of execution.]]

Number of Errors To Save
[[Specifies the maximum number of errors Dr. Watson will record in the log
file. When Dr. Watson detects a program error, extensive diagnostic
information is logged in the Drwtsn32.log file. Dr. Watson also records an
entry in the Event Viewer Application Log containing the program name, date,
time, exception number, exception name, program counter, and function name
at the current program counter, as well as the complete diagnostic
information that was logged for that error.]]

Options
Dump Symbol Table
[[Specifies whether Dr. Watson dumps the symbol table for each module. The
symbol table dump contains the address and name for each symbol. Selecting
this option can cause your log file to become very large.]]

Dump All Thread Contents
[[Specifies whether Dr. Watson will log all threads. If this option is
selected, Dr. Watson logs a state dump for each thread in the program
causing the error. Otherwise, Dr. Watson logs only the thread that caused
the program error.]]

Append To Existing Log File
[[Specifies whether Dr. Watson appends diagnostic information to the end of
the Drwtsn32.log file or creates a new log file for each program error.
Selecting this option can cause your log file to become very large.]]

Visual Notification
[[Specifies whether Dr. Watson provides a message box with an OK button when
a program error is detected. If you do not click OK within five minutes, the
box is removed.]]

Sound Notification
[[Specifies whether Dr. Watson plays a sound when a program error is
detected. The sound played is either the WAV file specified in the Wave File
box or two standard computer-generated beeps.]]

Create Crash Dump File
[[Specifies whether Dr. Watson creates a binary crash dump file that can
later be loaded into a debugger. If you select this option, you must also
specify a file name for the crash dump file in the Crash Dump box.]]

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Now the two 80GB and teh 500GB SATA drives are up and runnign smooth.
just minor problems originating from MSN Messenger and Googles Deskbar.

Things are really looknig up.

It seems that errors concerning symbols files are best dealt with by
reinstalling all software causing troubles, OS inculded.

--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic

<snip>

 

[Zadig Galbaras]

Thank you Wesley...

Very nice of you to do that. I have saved it an will read it all soon.

The problem for me was duw to lack of knowledge I didn't understand that the
error was in every afflicted appplication. I thought it was the OS that was
mocked.

But I have noe learned. Se also my english speaking blog at
http://tresfjording.blogspot.com/

Right now it's 2:30 in the morning and my compputer haven't crashed yet to
day.

Anyways....thank you for your help.


--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----

Hi Zadig,

Since you seem so interested in Dr. Watson, I'm gonna give you everything
I
have on it. I lost interest a long time ago. If I have an application
that
keeps crashing, I either uninstall and reinstall it and/or look for
updates
for that application.

Dr. Watson Help
%windir%\Help\drwtsn32.chm

Dr. Watson
http://www.wown.com/kbase/WindowsTips/WindowsNT/RegistryTips/Utilities/DrWatson.html

Dr. Watson overview
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/.../xp/all/proddocs/en-us/drwatson_overview.mspx

Setting up Dr. Watson
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/drwatson_setup.mspx

Working with Dr. Watson
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/drwatson_options.mspx

Using Dr. Watson
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/app_dr_watson.mspx

Using the Dr. Watson log file
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/drwatson_logfile.mspx

How to Install Symbols for Dr. Watson Error Debugging
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;141465

HOWTO: Use Rebase to Extract Symbols for DrWtSn32.exe
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;258205

Download Windows Symbol Packages
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/ddk/debugging/symbolpkg.mspx#Windows symbol packages

Dr. Watson Fails to Appear Because of Long File Names in Path
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q175644/

Dr. Watson Does Not Run with Certain Extensible Counters
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q234860/

Dr. Watson Causing Fault in USER32
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q175875/

Random Dr. Watson Errors in Services.exe
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q219602/

Error 87 and Dr. Watson
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q162623/

Interpreting DrWtsn32.log File to Identify Program Crash Data
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q246084/

Dr. Watson Log File May Not Contain Task List
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;214791

Specifying the Debugger for Unhandled User Mode Exceptions
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q121434/

-----

Dr. Watson

Log File Path:
[[The default location is the Documents and Settings\All users\Application
Data\Microsoft\Dr Watson folder, which is created when you first run Dr.
Watson. Dr. Watson will create the Drwtsn32.log file containing the
diagnostic information about program errors in this folder.]]

Crash Dump:
[[The crash dump file must be specified if you select the Create Crash
Dump
File check box. The default is Documents and Settings\All
users\Application
Data\Microsoft\Dr Watson\user.dmp. The crash dump file is a binary file
that
can be loaded into a debugger. Click Browse to select a different crash
dump
file or location.
Be sure that the path specified is one to which all users have Write
permission. If Dr. Watson cannot use the path specified when a crash dump
file is created, the File Open dialog box appears for you to specify a new
path.]]

Wave File:
[[Dr. Watson uses a WAV file to play a sound when an application error
occurs. The file name must have a .wav extension and must conform to the
Microsoft WAV file format. If you can play a WAV file using Media Player,
the file is a valid WAV file. This option is not available if you do not
have a sound card. Click Browse to locate the WAV file you want to use.]]

Number of Instructions:
[[Specifies the maximum number of instructions that Dr. Watson will
disassemble before and after the current program counter for each thread
state dump. The program counter is a computer register that contains the
memory location for a thread's current point of execution.]]

Number of Errors To Save
[[Specifies the maximum number of errors Dr. Watson will record in the log
file. When Dr. Watson detects a program error, extensive diagnostic
information is logged in the Drwtsn32.log file. Dr. Watson also records an
entry in the Event Viewer Application Log containing the program name,
date,
time, exception number, exception name, program counter, and function name
at the current program counter, as well as the complete diagnostic
information that was logged for that error.]]

Options
Dump Symbol Table
[[Specifies whether Dr. Watson dumps the symbol table for each module. The
symbol table dump contains the address and name for each symbol. Selecting
this option can cause your log file to become very large.]]

Dump All Thread Contents
[[Specifies whether Dr. Watson will log all threads. If this option is
selected, Dr. Watson logs a state dump for each thread in the program
causing the error. Otherwise, Dr. Watson logs only the thread that caused
the program error.]]

Append To Existing Log File
[[Specifies whether Dr. Watson appends diagnostic information to the end
of
the Drwtsn32.log file or creates a new log file for each program error.
Selecting this option can cause your log file to become very large.]]

Visual Notification
[[Specifies whether Dr. Watson provides a message box with an OK button
when
a program error is detected. If you do not click OK within five minutes,
the
box is removed.]]

Sound Notification
[[Specifies whether Dr. Watson plays a sound when a program error is
detected. The sound played is either the WAV file specified in the Wave
File
box or two standard computer-generated beeps.]]

Create Crash Dump File
[[Specifies whether Dr. Watson creates a binary crash dump file that can
later be loaded into a debugger. If you select this option, you must also
specify a file name for the crash dump file in the Crash Dump box.]]

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Now the two 80GB and teh 500GB SATA drives are up and runnign smooth.
just minor problems originating from MSN Messenger and Googles Deskbar.

Things are really looknig up.

It seems that errors concerning symbols files are best dealt with by
reinstalling all software causing troubles, OS inculded.

--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic

<snip>

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Zadig,

If you mean this error...

*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found.

It isn't that big of a deal. That will show up in every error listed in
%allusersprofile%\Application Data\Microsoft\Dr Watson\drwtsn32.log
if symbol files are not installed and Dr. Watson has to default to ntdll.dll
for symbols.

Even if no extra symbols are loaded old Doc still sends the errors to the
Event Viewer.

Be thankful that Dr. Watson isn't crashing for you. I see a lot of posts
about Dr. Watson crashing.

[[Every computer is like a car with air-conditioning, once you open windows,
it stops working properly.]] LOL At least you have air conditioning. It
hit 104°F (40°C) here today.

Here's some horses for ya.

They may not be Icelandic horses, but...
They are from The Greeley Stampede, the World's Largest 4th of July Rodeo
and Western Celebration. My town.

42 images in this album on 5 pages.
Click on [slideshow] or just work your way through them.
http://silvercharm.digitalphotochat.com/gallery/GreeleyStampede2003

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Thank you Wesley...

Very nice of you to do that. I have saved it an will read it all soon.

The problem for me was duw to lack of knowledge I didn't understand that
the error was in every afflicted appplication. I thought it was the OS
that was mocked.

But I have noe learned. Se also my english speaking blog at
http://tresfjording.blogspot.com/

Right now it's 2:30 in the morning and my compputer haven't crashed yet to
day.

Anyways....thank you for your help.


--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic

<snip>

 

[Zadig Galbaras]

Rodeo...Always wanted to attend one of those..
Are you riding contests yourself, or are you just a afficiado?


But that has passed I guess.
My dream of touring USA is fast becoming a thing of the past :-(

It's now 08:30 inn the morning here and and when I wkoe up my computer
fifteen minutes ago it all went just fine with no hickups.
That means that right now my Niobe hasn't crashed for nearly nine hours!

Lif IS good!

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Just a spectator. The last time I was on a horse I just about got bucked
off and it was no rodeo horse.

Glad to hear that your machine is running fine.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Rodeo...Always wanted to attend one of those..
Are you riding contests yourself, or are you just a afficiado?


But that has passed I guess.
My dream of touring USA is fast becoming a thing of the past :-(

It's now 08:30 inn the morning here and and when I wkoe up my computer
fifteen minutes ago it all went just fine with no hickups.
That means that right now my Niobe hasn't crashed for nearly nine hours!

Lif IS good!

--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----

Zadig,

If you mean this error...

*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found.

It isn't that big of a deal. That will show up in every error listed in
%allusersprofile%\Application Data\Microsoft\Dr Watson\drwtsn32.log
if symbol files are not installed and Dr. Watson has to default to
ntdll.dll
for symbols.

Even if no extra symbols are loaded old Doc still sends the errors to the
Event Viewer.

Be thankful that Dr. Watson isn't crashing for you. I see a lot of posts
about Dr. Watson crashing.

[[Every computer is like a car with air-conditioning, once you open
windows,
it stops working properly.]] LOL At least you have air conditioning.
It hit 104°F (40°C) here today.

Here's some horses for ya.

They may not be Icelandic horses, but...
They are from The Greeley Stampede, the World's Largest 4th of July Rodeo
and Western Celebration. My town.

42 images in this album on 5 pages.
Click on [slideshow] or just work your way through them.
http://silvercharm.digitalphotochat.com/gallery/GreeleyStampede2003

 

[Zadig Galbaras]

Hi again Wesley....

I think my system is getting pretty stable right now.
Have been runnig apps that usually caused a reboot for about five hours now.
Do not dare to cheer yet.

I found out there was a problem with Macromedia Flash iexplorer plugin.
Uninstalled and reinstalled it.
And that Java installation was gone sour.
Uninstalled and reinstalled both versions.

I finally expanded into the correct place both iexplore.exe and explorer.exe
from my Windows cd.
Everything seems more stable and more responsive.

Been running Winamp, MSN Messenger, MSIE, Win explorer and Outlook
This usually crash the computer within minutes!

Still running!



--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----

Just a spectator. The last time I was on a horse I just about got bucked
off and it was no rodeo horse.

Glad to hear that your machine is running fine.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Rodeo...Always wanted to attend one of those..
Are you riding contests yourself, or are you just a afficiado?


But that has passed I guess.
My dream of touring USA is fast becoming a thing of the past :-(

It's now 08:30 inn the morning here and and when I wkoe up my computer
fifteen minutes ago it all went just fine with no hickups.
That means that right now my Niobe hasn't crashed for nearly nine hours!

Lif IS good!

--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----

Zadig,

If you mean this error...

*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found.

It isn't that big of a deal. That will show up in every error listed in
%allusersprofile%\Application Data\Microsoft\Dr Watson\drwtsn32.log
if symbol files are not installed and Dr. Watson has to default to
ntdll.dll
for symbols.

Even if no extra symbols are loaded old Doc still sends the errors to
the
Event Viewer.

Be thankful that Dr. Watson isn't crashing for you. I see a lot of
posts
about Dr. Watson crashing.

[[Every computer is like a car with air-conditioning, once you open
windows,
it stops working properly.]] LOL At least you have air conditioning.
It hit 104°F (40°C) here today.

Here's some horses for ya.

They may not be Icelandic horses, but...
They are from The Greeley Stampede, the World's Largest 4th of July
Rodeo
and Western Celebration. My town.

42 images in this album on 5 pages.
Click on [slideshow] or just work your way through them.
http://silvercharm.digitalphotochat.com/gallery/GreeleyStampede2003

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Glad to hear it, Zadig.

I do not and will not have Macromedia Flash on my machine.

I have no java whatsoever installed either. Or any kind of Messenger. ;-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Hi again Wesley....

I think my system is getting pretty stable right now.
Have been runnig apps that usually caused a reboot for about five hours
now. Do not dare to cheer yet.

I found out there was a problem with Macromedia Flash iexplorer plugin.
Uninstalled and reinstalled it.
And that Java installation was gone sour.
Uninstalled and reinstalled both versions.

I finally expanded into the correct place both iexplore.exe and
explorer.exe from my Windows cd.
Everything seems more stable and more responsive.

Been running Winamp, MSN Messenger, MSIE, Win explorer and Outlook
This usually crash the computer within minutes!

Still running!



--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----

Just a spectator. The last time I was on a horse I just about got bucked
off and it was no rodeo horse.

Glad to hear that your machine is running fine.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Rodeo...Always wanted to attend one of those..
Are you riding contests yourself, or are you just a afficiado?


But that has passed I guess.
My dream of touring USA is fast becoming a thing of the past :-(

It's now 08:30 inn the morning here and and when I wkoe up my computer
fifteen minutes ago it all went just fine with no hickups.
That means that right now my Niobe hasn't crashed for nearly nine hours!

Lif IS good!

--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----


"Wesley Vogel" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
Zadig,

If you mean this error...

*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found.

It isn't that big of a deal. That will show up in every error listed
in %allusersprofile%\Application Data\Microsoft\Dr Watson\drwtsn32.log
if symbol files are not installed and Dr. Watson has to default to
ntdll.dll
for symbols.

Even if no extra symbols are loaded old Doc still sends the errors to
the
Event Viewer.

Be thankful that Dr. Watson isn't crashing for you. I see a lot of
posts
about Dr. Watson crashing.

[[Every computer is like a car with air-conditioning, once you open
windows,
it stops working properly.]] LOL At least you have air conditioning.
It hit 104°F (40°C) here today.

Here's some horses for ya.

They may not be Icelandic horses, but...
They are from The Greeley Stampede, the World's Largest 4th of July
Rodeo
and Western Celebration. My town.

42 images in this album on 5 pages.
Click on [slideshow] or just work your way through them.
http://silvercharm.digitalphotochat.com/gallery/GreeleyStampede2003

 

[Zadig Galbaras]

Hi again...

I have been struggling here. Really fighting it out.
The problem have remained all the time.
The change of the explorer.exe and iexplore.exe was at the best only
momentary glimpse.
Even made a batch file to do the job.

For the first time in weeks this computer have been running all night while
I was sleeping with a few apps running without rebooting, and still
functioning the next morning.
What I did?
I yanked out the SB Live! 24-Bit sound card.
This in spite of recently updated drivers.
Even though I have stripped Windows and various apps to live a quiet life
and not bother me with annoying sounds every time something bad happens, the
all need a working sound card. Even Word crashed, but it don't no more.

This time I am pretty sure the problem is solved.
No I have to find a sound card that is fully compatible with my mother board
Abit VT7.
Have any suggestions, Wesley?





--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----

Glad to hear it, Zadig.

I do not and will not have Macromedia Flash on my machine.

I have no java whatsoever installed either. Or any kind of Messenger.
;-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Hi again Wesley....

I think my system is getting pretty stable right now.
Have been runnig apps that usually caused a reboot for about five hours
now. Do not dare to cheer yet.

I found out there was a problem with Macromedia Flash iexplorer plugin.
Uninstalled and reinstalled it.
And that Java installation was gone sour.
Uninstalled and reinstalled both versions.

I finally expanded into the correct place both iexplore.exe and
explorer.exe from my Windows cd.
Everything seems more stable and more responsive.

Been running Winamp, MSN Messenger, MSIE, Win explorer and Outlook
This usually crash the computer within minutes!

Still running!



--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----

Just a spectator. The last time I was on a horse I just about got
bucked
off and it was no rodeo horse.

Glad to hear that your machine is running fine.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Zadig Galbaras <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Rodeo...Always wanted to attend one of those..
Are you riding contests yourself, or are you just a afficiado?


But that has passed I guess.
My dream of touring USA is fast becoming a thing of the past :-(

It's now 08:30 inn the morning here and and when I wkoe up my computer
fifteen minutes ago it all went just fine with no hickups.
That means that right now my Niobe hasn't crashed for nearly nine
hours!

Lif IS good!

--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----


"Wesley Vogel" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
Zadig,

If you mean this error...

*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found.

It isn't that big of a deal. That will show up in every error listed
in %allusersprofile%\Application Data\Microsoft\Dr Watson\drwtsn32.log
if symbol files are not installed and Dr. Watson has to default to
ntdll.dll
for symbols.

Even if no extra symbols are loaded old Doc still sends the errors to
the
Event Viewer.

Be thankful that Dr. Watson isn't crashing for you. I see a lot of
posts
about Dr. Watson crashing.

[[Every computer is like a car with air-conditioning, once you open
windows,
it stops working properly.]] LOL At least you have air conditioning.
It hit 104°F (40°C) here today.

Here's some horses for ya.

They may not be Icelandic horses, but...
They are from The Greeley Stampede, the World's Largest 4th of July
Rodeo
and Western Celebration. My town.

42 images in this album on 5 pages.
Click on [slideshow] or just work your way through them.
http://silvercharm.digitalphotochat.com/gallery/GreeleyStampede2003

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Hi Zadig,

I have a Creative Sound Blaster PCI512 sound card and a NVIDIA GeForce4 MX
440 graphics card.

I do not know what I would buy, but I know what I won't buy.

I will never buy another Creative or NVIDIA product.

But you know all about Creative don't you?

Did you have the *proper* XP drivers?

Creative Labs : Customer Support - Drivers & more for all your Creative
products
http://us.creative.com/support/

Customer Support: Software AutoUpdate
http://us.creative.com/support/down.../&hdAllProduct=1&LangID=1033&hdDspLangID=1033

Oops, that's US...

Home Page: Country Selector
http://us.creative.com/language.asp


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Hi again...

I have been struggling here. Really fighting it out.
The problem have remained all the time.
The change of the explorer.exe and iexplore.exe was at the best only
momentary glimpse.
Even made a batch file to do the job.

For the first time in weeks this computer have been running all night
while I was sleeping with a few apps running without rebooting, and still
functioning the next morning.
What I did?
I yanked out the SB Live! 24-Bit sound card.
This in spite of recently updated drivers.
Even though I have stripped Windows and various apps to live a quiet life
and not bother me with annoying sounds every time something bad happens,
the all need a working sound card. Even Word crashed, but it don't no
more.

This time I am pretty sure the problem is solved.
No I have to find a sound card that is fully compatible with my mother
board Abit VT7.
Have any suggestions, Wesley?





--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----

Glad to hear it, Zadig.

I do not and will not have Macromedia Flash on my machine.

I have no java whatsoever installed either. Or any kind of Messenger.
;-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Hi again Wesley....

I think my system is getting pretty stable right now.
Have been runnig apps that usually caused a reboot for about five hours
now. Do not dare to cheer yet.

I found out there was a problem with Macromedia Flash iexplorer plugin.
Uninstalled and reinstalled it.
And that Java installation was gone sour.
Uninstalled and reinstalled both versions.

I finally expanded into the correct place both iexplore.exe and
explorer.exe from my Windows cd.
Everything seems more stable and more responsive.

Been running Winamp, MSN Messenger, MSIE, Win explorer and Outlook
This usually crash the computer within minutes!

Still running!



--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----


"Wesley Vogel" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
Just a spectator. The last time I was on a horse I just about got
bucked
off and it was no rodeo horse.

Glad to hear that your machine is running fine.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Zadig Galbaras <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Rodeo...Always wanted to attend one of those..
Are you riding contests yourself, or are you just a afficiado?


But that has passed I guess.
My dream of touring USA is fast becoming a thing of the past :-(

It's now 08:30 inn the morning here and and when I wkoe up my computer
fifteen minutes ago it all went just fine with no hickups.
That means that right now my Niobe hasn't crashed for nearly nine
hours!

Lif IS good!

--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----


"Wesley Vogel" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
Zadig,

If you mean this error...

*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found.

It isn't that big of a deal. That will show up in every error listed
in %allusersprofile%\Application Data\Microsoft\Dr
Watson\drwtsn32.log if symbol files are not installed and Dr. Watson
has to default to ntdll.dll
for symbols.

Even if no extra symbols are loaded old Doc still sends the errors to
the
Event Viewer.

Be thankful that Dr. Watson isn't crashing for you. I see a lot of
posts
about Dr. Watson crashing.

[[Every computer is like a car with air-conditioning, once you open
windows,
it stops working properly.]] LOL At least you have air
conditioning. It hit 104°F (40°C) here today.

Here's some horses for ya.

They may not be Icelandic horses, but...
They are from The Greeley Stampede, the World's Largest 4th of July
Rodeo
and Western Celebration. My town.

42 images in this album on 5 pages.
Click on [slideshow] or just work your way through them.
http://silvercharm.digitalphotochat.com/gallery/GreeleyStampede2003

 

[Zadig Galbaras]

yes all drivers updated, and even tested an earlier version of the nvidia
drivers, but in vain.
Right now I use the onboard sound card, and being not a music junkie it
might be good enough for me.

Also the Internet Explorer Macromedia Flash plug in crashes my iexplore.exe
too often.
Get a html web page describing the problem for MS and they say it's a well
know problem and that Macromedia is to blame.
I remember you said you don't use this flash plug in.
What do you use instead?


--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----

Hi Zadig,

I have a Creative Sound Blaster PCI512 sound card and a NVIDIA GeForce4 MX
440 graphics card.

I do not know what I would buy, but I know what I won't buy.

I will never buy another Creative or NVIDIA product.

But you know all about Creative don't you?

Did you have the *proper* XP drivers?

Creative Labs : Customer Support - Drivers & more for all your Creative
products
http://us.creative.com/support/

Customer Support: Software AutoUpdate
http://us.creative.com/support/down.../&hdAllProduct=1&LangID=1033&hdDspLangID=1033

Oops, that's US...

Home Page: Country Selector
http://us.creative.com/language.asp


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Hi again...

I have been struggling here. Really fighting it out.
The problem have remained all the time.
The change of the explorer.exe and iexplore.exe was at the best only
momentary glimpse.
Even made a batch file to do the job.

For the first time in weeks this computer have been running all night
while I was sleeping with a few apps running without rebooting, and still
functioning the next morning.
What I did?
I yanked out the SB Live! 24-Bit sound card.
This in spite of recently updated drivers.
Even though I have stripped Windows and various apps to live a quiet life
and not bother me with annoying sounds every time something bad happens,
the all need a working sound card. Even Word crashed, but it don't no
more.

This time I am pretty sure the problem is solved.
No I have to find a sound card that is fully compatible with my mother
board Abit VT7.
Have any suggestions, Wesley?





--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----

Glad to hear it, Zadig.

I do not and will not have Macromedia Flash on my machine.

I have no java whatsoever installed either. Or any kind of Messenger.
;-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Zadig Galbaras <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Hi again Wesley....

I think my system is getting pretty stable right now.
Have been runnig apps that usually caused a reboot for about five hours
now. Do not dare to cheer yet.

I found out there was a problem with Macromedia Flash iexplorer plugin.
Uninstalled and reinstalled it.
And that Java installation was gone sour.
Uninstalled and reinstalled both versions.

I finally expanded into the correct place both iexplore.exe and
explorer.exe from my Windows cd.
Everything seems more stable and more responsive.

Been running Winamp, MSN Messenger, MSIE, Win explorer and Outlook
This usually crash the computer within minutes!

Still running!



--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----


"Wesley Vogel" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
Just a spectator. The last time I was on a horse I just about got
bucked
off and it was no rodeo horse.

Glad to hear that your machine is running fine.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Zadig Galbaras <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Rodeo...Always wanted to attend one of those..
Are you riding contests yourself, or are you just a afficiado?


But that has passed I guess.
My dream of touring USA is fast becoming a thing of the past :-(

It's now 08:30 inn the morning here and and when I wkoe up my
computer
fifteen minutes ago it all went just fine with no hickups.
That means that right now my Niobe hasn't crashed for nearly nine
hours!

Lif IS good!

--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----


"Wesley Vogel" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
Zadig,

If you mean this error...

*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found.

It isn't that big of a deal. That will show up in every error
listed
in %allusersprofile%\Application Data\Microsoft\Dr
Watson\drwtsn32.log if symbol files are not installed and Dr. Watson
has to default to ntdll.dll
for symbols.

Even if no extra symbols are loaded old Doc still sends the errors
to
the
Event Viewer.

Be thankful that Dr. Watson isn't crashing for you. I see a lot of
posts
about Dr. Watson crashing.

[[Every computer is like a car with air-conditioning, once you open
windows,
it stops working properly.]] LOL At least you have air
conditioning. It hit 104°F (40°C) here today.

Here's some horses for ya.

They may not be Icelandic horses, but...
They are from The Greeley Stampede, the World's Largest 4th of July
Rodeo
and Western Celebration. My town.

42 images in this album on 5 pages.
Click on [slideshow] or just work your way through them.
http://silvercharm.digitalphotochat.com/gallery/GreeleyStampede2003

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Nothing. I hate Flash. I do not have Flash at all, period.

I think it is irritating as heck. I just miss out on whatever good stuff
that there may be. That way I also avoid all the bad stuff.

There are some programs around that allow you to switch Flash on and off,
but I like it off all the time just fine. ;-)

Do you have Macromedia Flash Player 7? Shockwave Player version 10.0.1? Or
the Macromedia Flash Player 8.0 beta? If the beta, get rid of it.

[[What is Shockwave Player version 10.0.1? ]]
Macromedia Shockwave Player Support FAQ
http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_15508#1

Maybe you would like this option.

[[As most Jakob Nielsen disciples would agree, Flash sites are simply a
waste of bandwidth, assaulting the user with unnecessary and annoying
graphics. You can uninstall Flash (instructions on Macromedia's web site),
but in some cases (where a site is offering an instructional video in Flash,
for example) you may want the functionality Flash provides. Here's a way to
toggle Flash on and off in Windows XP without a performance penalty or error
messages.]]
How to toggle Flash on and off
http://www.clearpointsystems.com/toggleFlash.php

I uninstalled Flash.

Deleted the following...
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed
C:\Program Files\Macromedia
C:\WINDOWS\Downloaded Program Files\swflash.inf

And deleted 57 Registry Entries related to Flash.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

yes all drivers updated, and even tested an earlier version of the nvidia
drivers, but in vain.
Right now I use the onboard sound card, and being not a music junkie it
might be good enough for me.

Also the Internet Explorer Macromedia Flash plug in crashes my
iexplore.exe too often.
Get a html web page describing the problem for MS and they say it's a well
know problem and that Macromedia is to blame.
I remember you said you don't use this flash plug in.
What do you use instead?


--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----

Hi Zadig,

I have a Creative Sound Blaster PCI512 sound card and a NVIDIA GeForce4
MX 440 graphics card.

I do not know what I would buy, but I know what I won't buy.

I will never buy another Creative or NVIDIA product.

But you know all about Creative don't you?

Did you have the *proper* XP drivers?

Creative Labs : Customer Support - Drivers & more for all your Creative
products
http://us.creative.com/support/

Customer Support: Software AutoUpdate
http://us.creative.com/support/down.../&hdAllProduct=1&LangID=1033&hdDspLangID=1033

Oops, that's US...

Home Page: Country Selector
http://us.creative.com/language.asp


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Hi again...

I have been struggling here. Really fighting it out.
The problem have remained all the time.
The change of the explorer.exe and iexplore.exe was at the best only
momentary glimpse.
Even made a batch file to do the job.

For the first time in weeks this computer have been running all night
while I was sleeping with a few apps running without rebooting, and
still functioning the next morning.
What I did?
I yanked out the SB Live! 24-Bit sound card.
This in spite of recently updated drivers.
Even though I have stripped Windows and various apps to live a quiet
life and not bother me with annoying sounds every time something bad
happens, the all need a working sound card. Even Word crashed, but it
don't no more.

This time I am pretty sure the problem is solved.
No I have to find a sound card that is fully compatible with my mother
board Abit VT7.
Have any suggestions, Wesley?





--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----


"Wesley Vogel" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
Glad to hear it, Zadig.

I do not and will not have Macromedia Flash on my machine.

I have no java whatsoever installed either. Or any kind of Messenger.
;-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Zadig Galbaras <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Hi again Wesley....

I think my system is getting pretty stable right now.
Have been runnig apps that usually caused a reboot for about five
hours now. Do not dare to cheer yet.

I found out there was a problem with Macromedia Flash iexplorer
plugin. Uninstalled and reinstalled it.
And that Java installation was gone sour.
Uninstalled and reinstalled both versions.

I finally expanded into the correct place both iexplore.exe and
explorer.exe from my Windows cd.
Everything seems more stable and more responsive.

Been running Winamp, MSN Messenger, MSIE, Win explorer and Outlook
This usually crash the computer within minutes!

Still running!



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Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
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"Wesley Vogel" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
Just a spectator. The last time I was on a horse I just about got
bucked
off and it was no rodeo horse.

Glad to hear that your machine is running fine.

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Zadig Galbaras <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Rodeo...Always wanted to attend one of those..
Are you riding contests yourself, or are you just a afficiado?


But that has passed I guess.
My dream of touring USA is fast becoming a thing of the past :-(

It's now 08:30 inn the morning here and and when I wkoe up my
computer
fifteen minutes ago it all went just fine with no hickups.
That means that right now my Niobe hasn't crashed for nearly nine
hours!

Lif IS good!

--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----


"Wesley Vogel" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
Zadig,

If you mean this error...

*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found.

It isn't that big of a deal. That will show up in every error
listed
in %allusersprofile%\Application Data\Microsoft\Dr
Watson\drwtsn32.log if symbol files are not installed and Dr.
Watson has to default to ntdll.dll
for symbols.

Even if no extra symbols are loaded old Doc still sends the errors
to
the
Event Viewer.

Be thankful that Dr. Watson isn't crashing for you. I see a lot of
posts
about Dr. Watson crashing.

[[Every computer is like a car with air-conditioning, once you open
windows,
it stops working properly.]] LOL At least you have air
conditioning. It hit 104°F (40°C) here today.

Here's some horses for ya.

They may not be Icelandic horses, but...
They are from The Greeley Stampede, the World's Largest 4th of July
Rodeo
and Western Celebration. My town.

42 images in this album on 5 pages.
Click on [slideshow] or just work your way through them.
http://silvercharm.digitalphotochat.com/gallery/GreeleyStampede2003

 

[Zadig Galbaras]

Have now cleansed my computer for every trace of SB and Macromedia Flash.
Nice not needed to download every trashy animated commercial too.

Have ordered a new soundcard:
http://computing.kelkoo.co.uk/b/a/sbs/111501/508891.html
Cheap, but it'll do 'til I have accumulated more money....



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Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----

Nothing. I hate Flash. I do not have Flash at all, period.

I think it is irritating as heck. I just miss out on whatever good stuff
that there may be. That way I also avoid all the bad stuff.

There are some programs around that allow you to switch Flash on and off,
but I like it off all the time just fine. ;-)

Do you have Macromedia Flash Player 7? Shockwave Player version 10.0.1?
Or
the Macromedia Flash Player 8.0 beta? If the beta, get rid of it.

[[What is Shockwave Player version 10.0.1? ]]
Macromedia Shockwave Player Support FAQ
http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_15508#1

Maybe you would like this option.

[[As most Jakob Nielsen disciples would agree, Flash sites are simply a
waste of bandwidth, assaulting the user with unnecessary and annoying
graphics. You can uninstall Flash (instructions on Macromedia's web site),
but in some cases (where a site is offering an instructional video in
Flash,
for example) you may want the functionality Flash provides. Here's a way
to
toggle Flash on and off in Windows XP without a performance penalty or
error
messages.]]
How to toggle Flash on and off
http://www.clearpointsystems.com/toggleFlash.php

I uninstalled Flash.

Deleted the following...
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed
C:\Program Files\Macromedia
C:\WINDOWS\Downloaded Program Files\swflash.inf

And deleted 57 Registry Entries related to Flash.

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

yes all drivers updated, and even tested an earlier version of the nvidia
drivers, but in vain.
Right now I use the onboard sound card, and being not a music junkie it
might be good enough for me.

Also the Internet Explorer Macromedia Flash plug in crashes my
iexplore.exe too often.
Get a html web page describing the problem for MS and they say it's a
well
know problem and that Macromedia is to blame.
I remember you said you don't use this flash plug in.
What do you use instead?


--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----

Hi Zadig,

I have a Creative Sound Blaster PCI512 sound card and a NVIDIA GeForce4
MX 440 graphics card.

I do not know what I would buy, but I know what I won't buy.

I will never buy another Creative or NVIDIA product.

But you know all about Creative don't you?

Did you have the *proper* XP drivers?

Creative Labs : Customer Support - Drivers & more for all your Creative
products
http://us.creative.com/support/

Customer Support: Software AutoUpdate
http://us.creative.com/support/down.../&hdAllProduct=1&LangID=1033&hdDspLangID=1033

Oops, that's US...

Home Page: Country Selector
http://us.creative.com/language.asp


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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Zadig Galbaras <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Hi again...

I have been struggling here. Really fighting it out.
The problem have remained all the time.
The change of the explorer.exe and iexplore.exe was at the best only
momentary glimpse.
Even made a batch file to do the job.

For the first time in weeks this computer have been running all night
while I was sleeping with a few apps running without rebooting, and
still functioning the next morning.
What I did?
I yanked out the SB Live! 24-Bit sound card.
This in spite of recently updated drivers.
Even though I have stripped Windows and various apps to live a quiet
life and not bother me with annoying sounds every time something bad
happens, the all need a working sound card. Even Word crashed, but it
don't no more.

This time I am pretty sure the problem is solved.
No I have to find a sound card that is fully compatible with my mother
board Abit VT7.
Have any suggestions, Wesley?





--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----


"Wesley Vogel" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
Glad to hear it, Zadig.

I do not and will not have Macromedia Flash on my machine.

I have no java whatsoever installed either. Or any kind of Messenger.
;-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Zadig Galbaras <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Hi again Wesley....

I think my system is getting pretty stable right now.
Have been runnig apps that usually caused a reboot for about five
hours now. Do not dare to cheer yet.

I found out there was a problem with Macromedia Flash iexplorer
plugin. Uninstalled and reinstalled it.
And that Java installation was gone sour.
Uninstalled and reinstalled both versions.

I finally expanded into the correct place both iexplore.exe and
explorer.exe from my Windows cd.
Everything seems more stable and more responsive.

Been running Winamp, MSN Messenger, MSIE, Win explorer and Outlook
This usually crash the computer within minutes!

Still running!



--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----


"Wesley Vogel" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
Just a spectator. The last time I was on a horse I just about got
bucked
off and it was no rodeo horse.

Glad to hear that your machine is running fine.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Zadig Galbaras <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Rodeo...Always wanted to attend one of those..
Are you riding contests yourself, or are you just a afficiado?


But that has passed I guess.
My dream of touring USA is fast becoming a thing of the past :-(

It's now 08:30 inn the morning here and and when I wkoe up my
computer
fifteen minutes ago it all went just fine with no hickups.
That means that right now my Niobe hasn't crashed for nearly nine
hours!

Lif IS good!

--

Regards
Zadig Galbaras
A Perturbed Norwegian Agnostic
-----


"Wesley Vogel" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
Zadig,

If you mean this error...

*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found.

It isn't that big of a deal. That will show up in every error
listed
in %allusersprofile%\Application Data\Microsoft\Dr
Watson\drwtsn32.log if symbol files are not installed and Dr.
Watson has to default to ntdll.dll
for symbols.

Even if no extra symbols are loaded old Doc still sends the errors
to
the
Event Viewer.

Be thankful that Dr. Watson isn't crashing for you. I see a lot
of
posts
about Dr. Watson crashing.

[[Every computer is like a car with air-conditioning, once you
open
windows,
it stops working properly.]] LOL At least you have air
conditioning. It hit 104°F (40°C) here today.

Here's some horses for ya.

They may not be Icelandic horses, but...
They are from The Greeley Stampede, the World's Largest 4th of
July
Rodeo
and Western Celebration. My town.

42 images in this album on 5 pages.
Click on [slideshow] or just work your way through them.
http://silvercharm.digitalphotochat.com/gallery/GreeleyStampede2003