Sygate 5.6 build 2808

[JP Loken]

http://smb.sygate.com/free/spf_download.php

 

[me]

http://smb.sygate.com/free/spf_download.php

Requirement: MS Internet Explorer.

J

 

[JW]

Requirement: MS Internet Explorer.

So you have Windows but you don't have (not "use") IE? How did you accomplish
that?

jon

 

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BBQ=AB?=]

So you have Windows but you don't have (not "use") IE? How did you
accomplish that?

With Windows XP, one way is via
Control Panel » Add or Remove Programs » Add/Remove Windows Components

 

[me]

So you have Windows but you don't have (not "use") IE? How
did you accomplish that?

jon

Exterminated IE 4(?), got Netscape (then) and Forefox
(recently), and never looked back.

Some price to pay, e.g., can't view .CHM files (no big deal).

J

 

[safesurfer]

Exterminated IE 4(?), got Netscape (then) and Forefox
(recently), and never looked back.

Some price to pay, e.g., can't view .CHM files (no big deal).

J

How do you get Windows Update to work without IE?

 

[Romain Petges]

With Windows XP, one way is via

Control Panel » Add or Remove Programs » Add/Remove Windows Components

Aah, you removed IE that way ?

Did you know that you only removed the icon from the desktop and the
shortcut in the start menu ? ... nothing else.

Regards, Romain

 

[me]

safesurfer wrote in

How do you get Windows Update to work without IE?

I don't.
Whatever update I really want, I do selectively (individual
files). It's a PITA but worth of not having IE.

BTW, the IE was killed whilst still young, ver.4(?). I'm not
sure the same can be done to IE ver's.5+.

J

 

[omega]

Did you know that you only removed the icon from the desktop and the
shortcut in the start menu ? ... nothing else.

I believe it'd be a simple matter to go one more superficial step further,
and delete the whole iexplorer program folder.

I tested that on my machine for a while, via rename, and it affected
nothing. Except for the trivial matter on where I'd not got around to
adjusting a couple of verb associations pointing to iexplore.exe.

The iexplore.exe app, it's just a small host, of the great many, for MSIE
(aka MSIE components). Killing off the iexplorer program folder, that'd be
still leaving the actual MSIE itself in place.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/browser/overview/overview.asp

"IExplore.exe is at the top level; it is a small application that
is instantiated when Internet Explorer is loaded. This executable
application uses Internet Explorer components..."


--
Karen S.

__________________
Re: http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/browser/overview/overview.asp
The chart on this page is a nice visual. As well, there are related links
there at MSDN for more talk on architecture. But, for the sake of those
reading offline, here's more quoted text from the page:

| Internet Explorer uses Microsoft ActiveX Controls and Active Document
| interfaces to connect components. The following diagram provides a high-
| level overview.

<http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/graphics/IE4Arch.gif>

| IExplore.exe is at the top level; it is a small application that is
| instantiated when Internet Explorer is loaded. This executable
| application uses Internet Explorer components to perform the
| navigation, history maintenance, favorites maintenance, HTML parsing and
| rendering, and so on, while it supplies the toolbar and frame for the
| stand-alone browser. IExplorer.exe directly hosts the Shdocvw.dll
| component.
|
| Shdocvw.dll in turn hosts the Mshtml.dll component, as well as any
| other Active Document component (such as a Microsoft Office application)
| that can be loaded in place in the browser when the user navigates to a
| specific document type. Shdocvw.dll supplies the functionality
| associated with navigation, in-place linking, favorites and history
| management, and PICS support. This dynamic-link library (DLL) also
| exposes interfaces to its host to allow it to be hosted separately as
| an ActiveX control. The Shdocvw.dll component is more frequently
| referred to as the WebBrowser Control. In-place linking refers to the
| ability to click a link in the HTML of the loaded document and to load
| a new HTML document in the same instance of the WebBrowser Control. If
| only Mshtml.dll is being hosted, a click on the link results in a new
| instance of the browser.
|
| Mshtml.dll is the component that performs the HTML parsing and
| rendering in Internet Explorer 4.0 and later, and it also exposes the
| HTML document through the Dynamic HTML Object Model. This component
| hosts the scripting engines, Microsoft virtual machine, ActiveX
| Controls, plug-ins, and other objects that might be referenced in the
| loaded HTML document. Mshtml.dll implements the Active Document server
| interfaces, which allows it to be hosted using standard Component
| Object Model (COM) interfaces.
[...]

 

[Romain Petges]

I believe it'd be a simple matter to go one more superficial step further,

and delete the whole iexplorer program folder.

Yes, but as you mentioned in your post, it still leaves IE in place ....
iexplore.exe is not the problem. There is no solution to get rid of this
stuff, except switching to another OS

Romain

 

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BBQ=AB?=]

Aah, you removed IE that way ?

Nope, not me.

Did you know that you only removed the icon from the desktop and
the shortcut in the start menu ? ... nothing else.

Heh. Some "uninstall". Romoving OE via the control panel does
somewhat more than that, and I assumed something similar for IE. Silly
me.

 

[Arne Anka]

Begin I alt.comp.freeware, sa »Q« utan att tänka först:

Heh. Some "uninstall". Romoving OE via the control panel does
somewhat more than that, and I assumed something similar for IE. Silly
me.

That will only remove OE shortcuts, not uninstall OE itself!

--
Arne Anka

Men det värsta är inte själva baksmällan,
den verkliga pärsen börjar när gårdagens
oundvikliga sanningar börjar rullas upp för en...

<http://starcruiser.dk/arne/>

 

[ALPI]

JP Loken a écrit :

http://smb.sygate.com/free/spf_download.php

I install it on Win98SE. But I now get a "smc.exe (not responding)" in
the tasks list. Fortunately I have the old version of spf and I install
it back.
Is this a bug in the new version ?

 

[A.Melon]

JP Loken a écrit :

I install it on Win98SE. But I now get a "smc.exe (not responding)" in
the tasks list. Fortunately I have the old version of spf and I install
it back.
Is this a bug in the new version ?

I've got the same thing happening, but it seems to be working okay as the traffic log is always
up-to-date, and it indicates traffic on it's tray icon as it should.

 

[MLC]

_A.Melon_, sabato 06/nov/2004:

I've got the same thing happening, but it seems to be working okay as the traffic log is always
up-to-date, and it indicates traffic on it's tray icon as it should.

It happened to me too, about a month ago, when I wanted to try Sygate.
Seeing that error message, I uninstalled it and installed again Kerio 2.1.5.

Now I've read in that other thread about the Kerio 2.1.5 vulnerability, so I
think I'll try version 4.1.2, but I wouldn't want a bloated firewall...
Is it really a resources hog?

 

[Tarapia Tapioco]

_A.Melon_, sabato 06/nov/2004:


It happened to me too, about a month ago, when I wanted to try Sygate.
Seeing that error message, I uninstalled it and installed again Kerio 2.1.5.

Now I've read in that other thread about the Kerio 2.1.5 vulnerability, so I
think I'll try version 4.1.2, but I wouldn't want a bloated firewall...
Is it really a resources hog?

Doesn't cause any problems on my old Win '98 400MHz 128MB machine. Process Explorer shows it
using around 3-5%.

 

[MLC]

_Tarapia Tapioco_, sabato 06/nov/2004:

Doesn't cause any problems on my old Win '98 400MHz 128MB machine. Process Explorer shows it
using around 3-5%.

Good news, then.
Grazie!