Switch to Windows XP

[Access Services]

Lets all switch to Windows XP(or downgrade). It'll make your life much
easier. We haven't upgraded 1 computer in the whole network yet. Reply with
your experiences!

Access Services
Martin Luther King Jr. Library
San Jose Public Libraries
(e-mail address removed)

 

[Puppy Breath]

Eeeks! Heaven forbid. Vista totally rocks when you know what you're doing
and have the right hardware.

 

[jean]

I'd sur elove to do that...been looking on info of how to do it. I've had
nothing but trouble.. everything I owned was not compatible.. I bought myself
a laptop for Christmas and made sure i put xp on it.. Now t he vista is just
collecting dust and it's not even a year old!!

 

[Just.some.guy]

I have a laptop computer with Vista home premium, and a desktop with Windows
XP, and I'm satisfied with that arrangment. So there!

 

[Andy [YaYa]]

This is my story...

I work at Geek Squad (now that half of you have stopped reading...) part
time, as a "fun job" when I'm not doing my other job.

OK so it's not really a story, it's just what I like to tell customers who
come in and say, Why do you like Vista?

I tell them, "See all these computers behind me (our precinct has 80-90
systems in repair on any given day), they all have 3 things in common. 1>
they are running Limewire, 2> they all have viruses, and 3> they are all
running Windows XP.

It's been well over a year and rarely, if ever do we get Vista machines in
for virus removal or basic software repair. We occasionally get hardware
problems which are easily fixed. The initial setup of Vista can be a pain in
the ass, but once it's done, or done right the OS works really well.

My other job we upgraded half of the computers to Vista. The network has XP
and 2K boxes as well, and they connect to a 2k server. No real issues. The
only issue is we got 1gig of ram, which even in "business mode", meaning we
don't game on them, can occasionally get slow because Vista is just a dog
with RAM, but the OS is stable, it has AMAZING reliability and stability
diagnostic tools built in. It cleans itself and generally does a lot of
thing to prevent problems down the road.

If you've never upgraded your systems, you simply don't know what you're
missing.

I don't recommend upgrading all your systems at once, in fact I don't
recommend upgrading anything. Buy new systems with Vista on it, and
gradually rotate them into your day to day business after through testing.
If you take the time to do an upgrade right, Vista is an extremely pleasant
experience.

Now the question is, do you really need to upgrade? Running a Public Library
is there really any need for state of the art? If your systems suffer from
frequent virus attacks I would say, upgrade. I don't think there are many
reference programs that require DirectX 10, dunno, maybe if you posted your
reqirements we could comment on your phobias.

-A.

 

[VRG Scotty]

This is my story...

I work at Geek Squad (now that half of you have stopped reading...) part
time, as a "fun job" when I'm not doing my other job.

OK so it's not really a story, it's just what I like to tell customers who
come in and say, Why do you like Vista?

I tell them, "See all these computers behind me (our precinct has 80-90
systems in repair on any given day), they all have 3 things in common. 1>
they are running Limewire, 2> they all have viruses, and 3> they are all
running Windows XP.

It's been well over a year and rarely, if ever do we get Vista machines in
for virus removal or basic software repair. We occasionally get hardware
problems which are easily fixed. The initial setup of Vista can be a pain
in the ass, but once it's done, or done right the OS works really well.

My other job we upgraded half of the computers to Vista. The network has
XP and 2K boxes as well, and they connect to a 2k server. No real issues.
The only issue is we got 1gig of ram, which even in "business mode",
meaning we don't game on them, can occasionally get slow because Vista is
just a dog with RAM, but the OS is stable, it has AMAZING reliability and
stability diagnostic tools built in. It cleans itself and generally does a
lot of thing to prevent problems down the road.

If you've never upgraded your systems, you simply don't know what you're
missing.

I don't recommend upgrading all your systems at once, in fact I don't
recommend upgrading anything. Buy new systems with Vista on it, and
gradually rotate them into your day to day business after through testing.
If you take the time to do an upgrade right, Vista is an extremely
pleasant experience.

Now the question is, do you really need to upgrade? Running a Public
Library is there really any need for state of the art? If your systems
suffer from frequent virus attacks I would say, upgrade. I don't think
there are many reference programs that require DirectX 10, dunno, maybe if
you posted your reqirements we could comment on your phobias.

Totally agree Andy, and well put, I'll never go back to XP. Plus I seem to
remember all these moans when XP ME 98 were released.

 

[Andy [YaYa]]

Totally agree Andy, and well put, I'll never go back to XP. Plus I seem to
remember all these moans when XP ME 98 were released.
--
VRG Scotty

www.vistareadygames.com
Register, it's free, and use the 'search for solution' tab for any
problems

Oh yeah, I totally heard them too, god XP and ME were both nightmares at
launch, but the mainstream didn't hear about it because the Intarweb wasn't
around back then, just the Internet, and it was a much more peaceful place
than it is today. In other words, the only reason Vista sucks so bad is
because the people who have something bad to say have this megaphone called
"the Blogosphere", if the Sphere was around back when XP came out it'd
probably be worse than the Vista launch.

-A.

 

[DarkSentinel]

I have a laptop computer with Vista home premium, and a desktop with
Windows XP, and I'm satisfied with that arrangment. So there!

If more people understood the premise of...

"Use what works best for YOU, and makes YOU most productive",

we wouldn't get threads like this. Personally, I could care less if people
used Goobertronics Buttmonkey OS, or whatever. As long as it gets what you
want to get done, why gripe or post tripe about other people's choices?

 

[SG]

Goobertronics Buttmonkey OS? sounds like a heck of a OS, where can I get it?
:>)

 

[VRG Scotty]

Goobertronics Buttmonkey OS? sounds like a heck of a OS, where can I get
it? :>)

Linux forums

 

[Not Me]

Frank uses it, ask him!

 

[DarkSentinel]

Goobertronics Buttmonkey OS? sounds like a heck of a OS, where can I get
it? :>)

It's available at all the finest Bait & Tackle shops...

 

[KevinD]

I agree, I would absolutely NEVER go back to XP. My company deals with
Banks as our Customers and the more progressive institutions are starting to
migrate. Then there are those still trying to limp along on Win 98 / 2000.
Man I hate that!

Personally Vista has opened a world of entertainment with eye popping
graphics in my home that makes my neighbors drool with jealousy.

 

[DarkSentinel]

I agree, I would absolutely NEVER go back to XP. My company deals with
Banks as our Customers and the more progressive institutions are starting
to migrate. Then there are those still trying to limp along on Win 98 /
2000. Man I hate that!

Personally Vista has opened a world of entertainment with eye popping
graphics in my home that makes my neighbors drool with jealousy.

For me, the graphics don't mean anything. What concerns me is that it does
everything that I need it to do, as good or better than XP. As I always say.
Use what works best for YOU, and makes you most productive.

 

[aldjkgjhfg]

Perhaps the reason that not many computers with Vista come back with viruses
is that they are hardly every used. I was forced to buy a computer with Vista
pre-loaded and quickly found that it would not support any of the business
applications that were supported by XP. I do use some specialized software
but it is ridiculous that Vista is so different. Consequently I do not use
the Vista computer all that often. If the O/S will not support its intended
function who cares about viruses?

 

[Drew]

New to computers aren't you ?? That would be the only explanation for such a
uneducated reply to the original post...The reason a new op system is
different is for that reason for which I just stated ...When your software
no longer works it is not Microsoft's fault but yours for switching to a new
op system with out checking to see whether your software would work or
not....Vista works just fine for its intended purpose...When Vista is
installed properly on a system that is once again properly designed for
Vista then it will run just fine...Take some 5yr old gasoline and try
running it in a new car,,,It will not run worth a damn !!...Why you may ask
?? Because the gasoline is past its prime and cannot keep up with the demand
of what is needed...You just cannot explain it easier than that............

 

[Andy [YaYa]]

Yeah, even I will admit that the first round of notebooks we had with Vista
had 512 Ram on some of them, and even single core processors, now if you
come to our store about 90% of the systems with Vista have 2 Gigs RAM and
dual cores are minimum now.

It may be that after 20 months that not that many people have chosen to
bring their Vista machines in, instead just swapping them out for XP boxes
(since you can't downgrade most of them (no XP drivers)), or dare I hope,
Linux, but I've been on Vista at my other job and at home since almost day
1, and my experiences are mostly positive.

As for being forced to buying Vista, there are Apples out there, take a look
around, I would not hesitate to recommend an Apple to ANYONE, they are great
machines, but the people who use them can be arrogant pricks, but the
machines are still good. Customer also said to me, well if Microsoft is
"forceing" us to use Vista, they must have a fair amount of confidence in
the OS. I mean if Microsoft didn't think Vista was good enough for the
general public, I don't think it would be the only choice for mainstream
consumers. right? Oh wait, it's not, there's Apple and Linux.

I actually GOT a virus on my Vista box at work (General9.ACLM, damn porn
sites). I was able to remove it with McAfee (Enterprise version) with little
to NO effort on my part. Didn't even have to boot into safe mode. Virus kept
triggering UAC, and McAfee kept it in check.

If no one is using Vista, then why are so many people bitching about it? If
you figure less than 10% (high figure) of people could be having problems,
then damn there are a lot of people out there doing just fine.

Take a class, get some training. Community Colleges are a great place to
start. Yesterday I downloaded SP1 RTM (just hit bittorrent for those of you
without scruples), but I haven't put it through it's paces yet. Can't wait,
hoping some of the minor annoyances are cleared up.

-A.

 

[bandi]

I hate Windows 7. If I had to do it over, I would never switch from XP.

"Access Services" wrote in message

Lets all switch to Windows XP(or downgrade). It'll make your life much
easier. We haven't upgraded 1 computer in the whole network yet. Reply with
your experiences!

Access Services
Martin Luther King Jr. Library
San Jose Public Libraries
(e-mail address removed)