Suggestions-Forum Functions, etc.

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Guest

Productivity / Efficiency / Speed
-------------------------------------

1. This Forum. It's a shame there's no *recall/history* to one's previous
entries in these Help forums' at the 'search box'.

2. This Forum. It's a shame one can't 'copy' the header AND the text in the
'message answer' (?) box *simultaneously*, in one operation - so that the
sender, topic, date, text, etc., can be copied & saved for the record quickly.

3. Win XP Home Ed. It's a shame that the ability to 'rename' folders by
'right-click' and 'type-over-existing name' on a 'primary' root folder in
Explorer was not
retained over from previous OS versions like Win 98.
 
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Chris Priede

Hi,
1. This Forum. It's a shame there's no *recall/history*...
2. This Forum. It's a shame one can't 'copy' the header ...

While there may be some merit to your suggestions regarding whatever
web-based interface you are using (and referring to as "this forum"), behind
it is a newsgroup you can set up and participate in using any newsreader,
including Outlook Express. If you'd like to try that, the NNTP server name
is msnews.microsoft.com. It may also be carried by your ISP's news server.

The groups are also indexed by Google, which makes searching extremely easy.
For example:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=tedoniman

Hope that helps,
 
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Galen

In tedoniman <[email protected]> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
Productivity / Efficiency / Speed
-------------------------------------

1. This Forum. It's a shame there's no *recall/history* to one's
previous entries in these Help forums' at the 'search box'.

2. This Forum. It's a shame one can't 'copy' the header AND the text
in the 'message answer' (?) box *simultaneously*, in one operation -
so that the sender, topic, date, text, etc., can be copied & saved
for the record quickly.

3. Win XP Home Ed. It's a shame that the ability to 'rename' folders
by 'right-click' and 'type-over-existing name' on a 'primary' root
folder in Explorer was not
retained over from previous OS versions like Win 98.

------------------------------------------------

May seem trivial but when using a very, very slow Win XP Notebook w/
low
mem, it makes a huge, huge difference.

1 & 2:

Access MS Newsgroups :
http://kgiii.info/windows/all/general/msnewsgroups.html

3. You can't? Do you mean like renaming "My Documents" for example? What
folder can't you rename? I'd not recommend renaming the system folders -
just for the record - but if you really wanted to you could probably find a
way to do so.

--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/

Please note that if you're reading this in a browser and the domain is
not owned by Microsoft then this work is being used without permission.

Access MS Newsgroups :
http://kgiii.info/windows/all/general/msnewsgroups.html
 
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Guest

Partial retraction by the undersigned:

Re: Item 2.

It's true, on 2nd thought, that after double-click on message title, one can
save
a well organized copy of ALL the messages & replies - the whole page - in
html format.

However, it doesn't include some of the original message header info (ex: the
short message title that one might need for a 'search'). Also, it seems
faster (in my
case, anyway) to just save the one, truly applicable reply - and do this in
".txt"
format (highlight/select/copy reply text and paste in Notepad text file).
 
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Guest

Greetings again,

Many thnx for replies from Chris Prieden & Galen.

By the way, can anyone help w/ my previous querry in this newsgroup recently,
titled:

" USB-USB File Transfer Cable Connection Problem"

1. To Chris - I arrive at this forum (news group) by entering following URL
(one of several):

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?

There are 2 boxes near top of page when I get here:

(1) Search for: (item - ex: "suggestions") and (2) in:
(newsgroup)

There is no 'recall' down-arrow next to box (1) via which I could recall 1
or more
entries I made prieviously in order to get back to a particular search item.
This would be similar to the 'history' drop-down window at the Google search
box and in some aps in Windows. That's basically all I actually meant.


2. To Galen - Fujitsu LifeBook, Win XP Home Ed (before & after SP2). Here's
example of Dir structure:

C:\
-MyStuff
-documents (sub-folder)
-NigelStuff
-NoraStuff
-Windows

I don't mess w/ System folders. In Win 98, to 'rename, for example, the folder
"MyStuff" to "OurStuff", I simply right-click on "MyStuff". A box frame
opens around
"MyStuff" and I can immediately type in a new name. This works for any
subfolders as well. However, in Win XP, the right-click method works ONLY in
subfolders -
like "documents", above. I like this method in Win 98 because it's easy,
consistent and a bit faster.

Thanx again. I will look into those suggestions you all made shortly.
 
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Galen

In tedoniman <[email protected]> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
Greetings again,

Many thnx for replies from Chris Prieden & Galen.

By the way, can anyone help w/ my previous querry in this newsgroup
recently, titled:

" USB-USB File Transfer Cable Connection
Problem"

1. To Chris - I arrive at this forum (news group) by entering
following URL (one of several):

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?

There are 2 boxes near top of page when I get here:

(1) Search for: (item - ex: "suggestions") and (2) in:
(newsgroup)

There is no 'recall' down-arrow next to box (1) via which I could
recall 1
or more
entries I made prieviously in order to get back to a particular
search item. This would be similar to the 'history' drop-down window
at the Google search box and in some aps in Windows. That's basically
all I actually meant.


2. To Galen - Fujitsu LifeBook, Win XP Home Ed (before & after SP2).
Here's example of Dir structure:

C:\
-MyStuff
-documents (sub-folder)
-NigelStuff
-NoraStuff
-Windows

I don't mess w/ System folders. In Win 98, to 'rename, for example,
the folder "MyStuff" to "OurStuff", I simply right-click on
"MyStuff". A box frame
opens around
"MyStuff" and I can immediately type in a new name. This works for any
subfolders as well. However, in Win XP, the right-click method works
ONLY in subfolders -
like "documents", above. I like this method in Win 98 because it's
easy, consistent and a bit faster.

Thanx again. I will look into those suggestions you all made shortly.

Do you have it set to single click to open files? Start > run > type
"control folders" without the quotes and hit enter... It's the bottom-most
entry on the first tab.

--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/

Please note that if you're reading this in a browser and the domain is
not owned by Microsoft then this work is being used without permission.

Access MS Newsgroups :
http://kgiii.info/windows/all/general/msnewsgroups.html
 
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Guest

20 Nov., 05 / 02:22 Malaysia time.

1. Thanks mucho, Chris, for the reply. Was just trying to make some
points. Really appreciate the info but don't really understand this
'newsreader' stuff. As I said (somewhere along the line) I got here by
looking for some help via Microsoft.com. That's all I know. I'm back in same
place now, looking at the replies again.

At the top of this page I'm now in, it says "Microsoft.com Home | Site Map".
Further down, we have 3 columns.

Left column lists 'Windows XP Newsgroups' and right now I'm in the
"Discussions in Windows XP Networking and the Web" group and writing this
reply in a separate window that just came up.

Middle column lists the 1st group of reader messages / questions.

At the right column, there's the open message box where I've read your reply.

So, that's all I know and all I can say about it. I don't know if I'm in a
'newsreader' or what. It just looks like an ordinary Microsoft type web page
to me. From the way your reply is worded, I'm beginning to think that maybe
we are each looking at a different type of page - but with basically the same
content - which is why I went into the detail above.

In so far as my original point was concerned (the one I'm assuming you are
refering
to in the reply), what I meant was that (on MY page, here) there are 2 small
entry boxes straddling the top of the middle and right columns I've just
described.

The left box is for entering 'search terms' - as when one wants to find a
particular
message (or one's own posted message), by entering a keyword contained in
that message or subject of interest.

The right box is for selecting the 'newsgroup' which one wants to search for
the message.

The problem arises when you have a very poor memory (like yours truly) and
you've
used that particular search box many times looking for different subjects of
interest and at some stage you want to go back to a particular message
you've found some time back during the session here.

Well, I couldn't do this latter because I couldn't remember the keyword I
used to get to that message. All I'm saying is that it would be nice to have
a little icon next to that box to click on to recall recent search terms -
like in Google. Such searches
have no relation to my own messages, replies or display name and so I
couldn't get back to such a non-related subject very quickly or easily, I
don't think, without some elementary search term 'recall' function.


2. I don't really understand Outlook Express either. Got hotmail - which is
simple enough and looks like all I really need - though I would like to
fathom the reasons and need for 'Outlook Express', sure.

I couldn't find "msnews.microsoft.com" in Google. There's a whole bunch of
stuff that comes up; and it doesn't work as a URL.

3. I am beginning to see the light (just barely though) with the
"http://groups.google.com/groups?q=tedoniman" link you provided. Opened my
eyes. Pretty neat, that. Will come in very handy indeed. Many thanks for that.

However, nothing I've read in the various replies, so far, seems to directly
address my original point as regards a 'search term recall' function to help
me
recover a particular message I located earlier via that search box.
Eventually I'm
expecting someone to suggest "why not just write down all your search terms on
a piece of paper or in a file"; but that would be missing the point
altogether.

Similarly, no one has really as yet hit the nail on the head with my other two
points / queries. Probably I haven't expressed myself very well.

In any case, thanx for taking the trouble and particularly for that last
link. I will
get there bit by bit.
 
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Guest

Thanx to 'Galen' for the following:

"" Do you have it set to single click to open files? Start > run > type
"control folders" without the quotes and hit enter... It's the bottom-most
entry on the first tab.""

I did all that but it doesn't do the trick. Thanks for the command line tip,
though.
Something new I learned.

Looks like put my foot in my mouth again and didn't state the facts
correctly.
Let me try again.

I meant to say that, quite unlike as in Win 98, if I LEFT click on a
*top-hierarchy* folder name in Win XP Explorer, the folder opens in the right
pane. If I LEFT click
the same name a 2nd time. nothing happens.

In Win 98, though, that 2nd LEFT click on that folder name immediately
'frames' that name and the flashing highlight prompts you to enter a new name
for that folder. This works OK in Win XP *sub-folders* - but not at the
prime, top hierarchy folders. It is true, however, that right-clicking on ANY
folder will bring up a menu
with the "Rename" option on it. However, this adds an extra step. So the old
Win 98
is a bit more efficient in this regard.

I'm just asking 'why can't I do this in my Win XP?'. Is this normal - or is
this due to a flaw or some corruption at my personal XP installation?

Am sorry I got that thing wrong the first time. The old brain is getting
worse. Curses. They just don't make em like they used to any more.

--
Ted...


Most of below stuff deleted for clarity & brevity.... Ted...

Most of the above stuff deleted to hide my ignorance....
 
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Guest

now they're suggesting we should leave the site and search google to be
redirected back here!! get real.
really there should be a user and topic search, even the most cheap forum
has that feature.
 
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Guest

re: r00 reply

Guess I'll have to concurr with most of that from "r00" (is that r-zero-zero
or r-oh-oh?). Don't really understand these 'newsreaders' much myself. And
they tell me this is not a 'Forum', per se.

Also, one is supposed to 'rate' the answers to the posts here - but there's
just
a 'yes' and a 'no' choice. To be sure, have learned a bit here but, roughly,
I'd say, only 50% or so of the issues were actually addressed. So I can't
really
honestly rate 'yes' or 'no'. There should be another choice maybe like
"partially" or "50-50".

Any one care to advise?
 
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Galen

In tedoniman <[email protected]> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
Thanx to 'Galen' for the following:

"" Do you have it set to single click to open files? Start > run >
type "control folders" without the quotes and hit enter... It's the
bottom-most entry on the first tab.""

I did all that but it doesn't do the trick. Thanks for the command
line tip, though.
Something new I learned.

Looks like put my foot in my mouth again and didn't state the facts
correctly.
Let me try again.

I meant to say that, quite unlike as in Win 98, if I LEFT click on a
*top-hierarchy* folder name in Win XP Explorer, the folder opens in
the right pane. If I LEFT click
the same name a 2nd time. nothing happens.

In Win 98, though, that 2nd LEFT click on that folder name immediately
'frames' that name and the flashing highlight prompts you to enter a
new name for that folder. This works OK in Win XP *sub-folders* - but
not at the prime, top hierarchy folders. It is true, however, that
right-clicking on ANY folder will bring up a menu
with the "Rename" option on it. However, this adds an extra step. So
the old Win 98
is a bit more efficient in this regard.

I'm just asking 'why can't I do this in my Win XP?'. Is this normal
- or is this due to a flaw or some corruption at my personal XP
installation?

Am sorry I got that thing wrong the first time. The old brain is
getting worse. Curses. They just don't make em like they used to any
more.



Most of the above stuff deleted to hide my ignorance....

Sorry to take so long to get back to you but I'm not entirely sure that I'm
following - I'm tired and have been way too busy for me for the past five
days or so but hopefully I'm freed up now - but could you try this?

start
run
type "explorer /n, /e, %ProgramFiles%" (without the quotes) for me... Does
this now exhibit the behavior you're expecting? If it doesn't then, well, to
rename you'll have to right click > rename > etc...

--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/

Please note that if you're reading this in a browser and the domain is
not owned by Microsoft then this work is being used without permission.

Access MS Newsgroups :
http://kgiii.info/windows/all/general/msnewsgroups.html
 
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Guest

To: "Galen"

Can appreciate busy sched. Used to have same problem. Now wish had some work!
Just saw yr reply today. This not that urgent. Am just bemoaning the fact
that apparently a lot of the neat little shortcuts in previous OS's seem to
have disappeared in follow-up OS's and wish there were some way to get them
back.

That command ( "explorer /n, /e, %ProgramFiles%" ) you just gave me is
another
neat job didn't know about. Opens Explorer at C:\Program Files and expands the
latter in both panes - just like "Explorer /e" opens it at C:\ instead of at
the usual
(default) "C:\My Documents" I think.

However, doesn't solve the 'rename' thing. It looks like that for some
safety reasons
maybe, it can't be done. In fact, I now see that NONE of the Folders or
sub-folders
in LEFT pane (Folders) can be renamed that way; that is, by (1) left click
on folder, (2) wait a sec, (3) left click on folder again and then (4) type
in new name. This works OK in RIGHT Explorer pane, though. It works in BOTH
panes in Win 98.

Not to worry. Looks like one of those things just meant to be. Will just
continue
use the right-click method in left pane, or, for folders under C:\, can use
the LEFT
click method in right pane.

Yesterday noted there's another debate going on in this group about some
flaw(?)
w/ "Save As" in 'Notebook'. It's a bit confusing to me but might look in on
that as
it may just touch on this issue here as well.

In meantime, appreciate your input. Gave me couple of new insights. Every bit
helps. Still got couple of other little problems to check out. Must browse
thru some previous messages here first before ask any more questions.

Thanx again.
 
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Galen

In tedoniman <[email protected]> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
To: "Galen"

Can appreciate busy sched. Used to have same problem. Now wish had
some work! Just saw yr reply today. This not that urgent. Am just
bemoaning the fact that apparently a lot of the neat little shortcuts
in previous OS's seem to have disappeared in follow-up OS's and wish
there were some way to get them back.

That command ( "explorer /n, /e, %ProgramFiles%" ) you just gave me is
another
neat job didn't know about. Opens Explorer at C:\Program Files and
expands the latter in both panes - just like "Explorer /e" opens it
at C:\ instead of at the usual
(default) "C:\My Documents" I think.

However, doesn't solve the 'rename' thing. It looks like that for some
safety reasons
maybe, it can't be done. In fact, I now see that NONE of the Folders
or sub-folders
in LEFT pane (Folders) can be renamed that way; that is, by (1) left
click
on folder, (2) wait a sec, (3) left click on folder again and then
(4) type in new name. This works OK in RIGHT Explorer pane, though.
It works in BOTH panes in Win 98.

Not to worry. Looks like one of those things just meant to be. Will
just continue
use the right-click method in left pane, or, for folders under C:\,
can use the LEFT
click method in right pane.

Yesterday noted there's another debate going on in this group about
some flaw(?)
w/ "Save As" in 'Notebook'. It's a bit confusing to me but might look
in on that as
it may just touch on this issue here as well.

In meantime, appreciate your input. Gave me couple of new insights.
Every bit helps. Still got couple of other little problems to check
out. Must browse thru some previous messages here first before ask
any more questions.

Thanx again.

No problem and glad to help not sort things out for you. <g> The holiday
season is over AND I'm almost set for the cold season. (I live pretty much
atop a mountain in Maine, USA so it's no easy task and I'm late as always.)
I'm retired so work isn't the issue - life is. I can now, that I understand,
fully confirm that you're not able to rename it there. I wanted to try it
there to see if it has something, maybe, to do with the 'web layout' with
the most common tasks being listed. Well, at least know we know it won't.
One can still right click and rename I guess but that's defeating the
purpose. Honestly I don't see it as a protection feature but more likely an
oversight. With XP well on it's way to the "old" and Vista in with the new -
I'll check it in the next beta build and bug it for you. You could report
this as a bug (and it seems to me that it is) if you wanted but, again to be
honest, I don't think that'd have any effect. Nor would I blame them... XP
is rather long in the tooth these days and I don't think that I'd put a lot
of resources into minor bug issues in the OS at that level and at this level
of the build. It's simply unlikely to be fixed. Now that I know exactly how
to get the same screen and exactly what you're seeing I can confirm - 100% -
that you can't rename a file by clicking on it like "normal." Interesting
that I think you're the first to pick up on that. I don't recall that being
bugged (and I certainly might have missed it if it had) prior to this and
certainly don't remember a reason for it being given. I wonder if it's a
artifact pulled from system file protection in an earlier build and wonder
what Window ME did? I'll take a peek when I have a day or two to dig through
the builds but I don't see that happening today. Anyhow, the house is pretty
much completely ready so all is good here... I don't think we can "fix" your
problem but I suspect that if it exists in Vista we can bug it. I don't know
what the result will be nor if I'm able to share the response to the bug but
I'll happily forward it on if it exists in the next build. Other than that
I'd say submit it as an XP bug but, realistically I don't think much would
be done with it and more realistically I can justify that response.

--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/

"My life is spent in one long effort to escape from the commonplaces of
existence." - Sherlock Holmes
 
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Guest

Roger. Got it. Not to worry. Just maybe somebody forgot the small stuff,
then,
to expedite the product maybe.

Anyhow, appreciate the reply. Small world. Retired too - and sort of stuck
here
in Malaysia til get lucky maybe. Put the 'USS Sampson' (DDG10) in commission
around 40+ years ago in Bath, Maine. Nice little place. Good people. Build
some dam good ships. Wonder if the shipyard still there. Maybe colder even
than Buffalo. But I digress...

Got to check few more things. Not up on these comps. Can't even seem to do the
simplest of things, like join together 2 comps for simple file transfer only
via one
of those whatchumacalems RJ45 crossover cables. Working on it...

BTW, go along w/ Sherlock on that. Hey. hope you don't get snowed in!
Climate
changing everywhere. Avalanches and floods and such. Just missed out on that
Tsunami not to far from here, myself. Year ago or so, got my ears almost
popped by one of those things went off in Southern Thailand about 500 mtrs
away, on way to see a retired mate of mine up there. Think I might try get
back and find me my own little mountain, soon as come into some Vitamin M.

Thanx again. Better get crackin before get cut off again on this rotten
local line...
 
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Guest

Speak of the devil!

Got cut off just before posted that last one a few minutes ago.
The graph on this line looks like 10,000 of those Himalayan peaks.
What a mess...
 

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