Subsystem for UNIX-Based Applications

M

MJ

Hi,

I'm using Windows Business version, and tring to use Subsystem for
UNIX-Based Applications (SUA) on my Vista machine.

However, it seems that SUA subsystem cannot be installed on Windows
Business version; only Enterprise and Ultimate versions are supporting
that.

Is there any way to install SUA by a kind of hacking(!) or just
copying SUA files from already installed in Ultimate version?

I hope you give some advice using SUA on Business version. Do I only
have to upgrade to Enterprise or Ultimate version?

Thanks
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications is only available in the following versions of Windows Vista:

. Windows Vista Ultimate
. Windows Vista Enterprise


--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User

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:

Hi,

I'm using Windows Business version, and tring to use Subsystem for
UNIX-Based Applications (SUA) on my Vista machine.

However, it seems that SUA subsystem cannot be installed on Windows
Business version; only Enterprise and Ultimate versions are supporting
that.

Is there any way to install SUA by a kind of hacking(!) or just
copying SUA files from already installed in Ultimate version?

I hope you give some advice using SUA on Business version. Do I only
have to upgrade to Enterprise or Ultimate version?

Thanks
 
A

Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

Is it possible for MJ to use a copy of Services for Unix on Vista Business
instead?
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

No, it can only be installed on Vista Ultimate or Enterprise editions.
MJ would need to upgrade to Vista Ultimate.

Upgrade to another edition of Windows Vista
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/3af7e05f-4d2a-4af7-a168-9242f9093bb81033.mspx

Windows Anytime Upgrade: frequently asked questions
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/37070041-1b90-4433-be0c-ab2855841b981033.mspx

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User

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:

Is it possible for MJ to use a copy of Services for Unix on Vista Business
instead?
 
D

Doris Day

Carey said:
Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications is only available in the following
versions of Windows Vista:

. Windows Vista Ultimate
. Windows Vista Enterprise
The fool should have known that! It's written right on the box.

Love and Kisses,
Doris
 
A

Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

No, I'm talking about old Services for Unix software which was available for
2000 or XP.
 
R

Rick Rogers

The Microsoft download won't install on Vista according to:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...88-601B-44F1-81A4-02878FF11778&displaylang=en

From System Requirements:
"Note: The product will not install on Windows 9x or Windows XP Home Edition
or Windows Vista."

My guess is that this is to force use of the enterprise or ultimate versions
in order to get this feature. Could be because of the networking
requirements that are needed.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

Andre Da Costa said:
No, I'm talking about old Services for Unix software which was available
for 2000 or XP.
 
A

Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

Thanks Roger.
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Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry
Rick Rogers said:
The Microsoft download won't install on Vista according to:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...88-601B-44F1-81A4-02878FF11778&displaylang=en

From System Requirements:
"Note: The product will not install on Windows 9x or Windows XP Home
Edition or Windows Vista."

My guess is that this is to force use of the enterprise or ultimate
versions in order to get this feature. Could be because of the networking
requirements that are needed.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
?

~^_^~

I'm not sure whether my question is appropriate in this topic.
However, I'd appreciate if you give some information about my
questions:

I'm a newbie SFU and SUA. My ultimate goal is compiling and
*debugging* Linux based applications with Visual Studio 2005.
Actually, now I'm doing like this with Eclipse + CDT + cygwin.
Cygwin's gcc and gdb work great, however Eclipse + CDT is really poor
than Visual Studio in terms of speead and easiness of debugging.

1. Is it possible to use Visual Studio 2005 for compiling and
debugging Linux-based source codes?

2. I've found SFU and SUA. What is the exact difference of them? I
think SFU is old-fashioned and SUA is preferred. Do I have to use
SUA?

3. In order to run SUA, Windows Server 2003 'R2' needed. But, I only
have Windows Server 2003 with service pack 2. How can I upgrade to R2
version? I have valid product key of Win 2003 from my university's
MSDN program.

Appreciate your answers.
 
A

Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

Questions answered in-line:
1. Is it possible to use Visual Studio 2005 for compiling and
debugging Linux-based source codes?
I think its best using the platforms native development tools. Thats just
my opinion of course, I'm not a developer.

2. I've found SFU and SUA. What is the exact difference of them? I
think SFU is old-fashioned and SUA is preferred. Do I have to use
SUA?
Don't know much, just that they do the same thing. You might wanna drop
this one over at the appropriate ng:
microsoft.public.servicesforunix.general

3. In order to run SUA, Windows Server 2003 'R2' needed. But, I only
have Windows Server 2003 with service pack 2. How can I upgrade to R2
version? I have valid product key of Win 2003 from my university's
MSDN program.
 
?

~^_^~

Thanks for your reply.

What I'm really can't understand is that 'Subsystem for Unix-based
Application' is just 1~2M!! In order to install these a couple of MB,
I should upgrade Windows Vista Business to Ultimate or Windows Server
2003 to R2 version.
 
G

Guest

I actually have a question for this, as well. I'm having difficulty getting
OpenSSH installed, as well as LaTeX into the subsystem (I'm attempting to use
teTeX). Anyone have any advice or suggestions on how best to configure this?
Thanks!

~Philip
 
M

Mark Bourne

Unless for some reason you really need to use teTeX and no other variety
of LaTeX will do, I'd suggest using MikTeX (http://miktex.org/) which is
a native Windows LaTeX implementation.
 
G

Guest

I've used MikTeX before, but the thing is (to my knowledge) it needs a
seperate program to compile the code. I'd like to sidestep the 'middle man'
if possible and just compile it from the command line, which is why I'm
trying the Unix subsystem approach.
 
M

Mark Bourne

I assume you are referring to compiling the LaTeX code - MikTeX *is* the
separate program for compiling.

MikTeX can be used through an IDE-type program (eg. TeXnicCenter - which
calls on MikTeX to compile the code), but it should be possible to use
MikTeX directly from the command line (after all, that's all the "IDE"
does behind the scenes anyway). You might have to make sure "C:\Program
Files\MiKTeX 2.6\miktex\bin" (or your equivalent location) is in the
PATH environment variable.

GhostScript might also come into the equation somewhere for dealing with
ps/eps files, but that can also be used from the command-line, and I
think that's the same as with a Unix-based implementation anyway. I may
be wrong there though.

If MikTeX doesn't do what you want, then fair enough. I just thought you
might not have been aware of its existence, just as I wasn't until
someone told me about it ;o)
 
F

ForgeAus

I agree with you about forcing use of Enterprise or Ultimate, thats what it
seems to be, however I disagree about networking requirements... Subsytem for
Unix-Based Applications is a LOCAL subsystem (sure there are some optional
network extras like NFS... which only the SERVER needs be network-based) but
it shouldn't be REQUIRED to have anything to do with networking, if it does
so then Microsoft have done something wrong with it...
 

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