Stopping spam with outlook

[Guest]

Outlook does not handle incoming email addresses in a way that the
originating ISP can be discovered. This is a negative when it comes to
stopping spam via my ISP. There is a $20 mod from spamcop.com that corrects
this, but why dosen't microsoft have their own?

 

[Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]]

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Outlook does not handle incoming email addresses in a way that the
originating ISP can be discovered. This is a negative when it comes
to stopping spam via my ISP. There is a $20 mod from spamcop.com
that corrects this, but why dosen't microsoft have their own?

What do you mean? You can see the full Internet mail headers in any message.
Not sure how your ISP enters into this.

 

[Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]]

Incoming mail addresses/domains are spoofed - how does any ISP/program
handle that?

My answer - SpamBayes.


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After furious head scratching, guano1 asked:

| Outlook does not handle incoming email addresses in a way that the
| originating ISP can be discovered. This is a negative when it comes
| to stopping spam via my ISP. There is a $20 mod from spamcop.com
| that corrects this, but why dosen't microsoft have their own?

 

[Vanguard]

Outlook does not handle incoming email addresses in a way that the
originating ISP can be discovered. This is a negative when it comes to
stopping spam via my ISP. There is a $20 mod from spamcop.com that
corrects
this, but why dosen't microsoft have their own?

You are deliberately and overtly lying. SpamCop.com offers NOTHING to
intregate with Outlook. All they offer is the Mailwasher download - and I
have to wonder why you would bother with getting Mailwasher from an unknown
rather than just get it from Mailwasher.net. I see nothing in the domain
registrations that would lead me to believe that SpamCop.com has any
relationship with Mailwasher.net or FireTrust.com. So you really need to
get Mailwasher, which is a separate mail monitor and NOT some add-on to
Outlook, from an unknown source and which could be infected? Yeah, right.
The links *appear* to take you to Firetrust's web site to get Mailwasher
from there, but it is for the *TRIAL* Pro version, not their free version.
The links also have an ID parameter, so here is some OP trying to hawk a
product to get their commission on the sale of Mailwasher Pro. In other
words, this you are a SPAMMER!

I looked at Mailwasher awhile ago and immediately dumped it. It runs as a
mail monitor. If the OP ever bothered to read the FAQ or actually used
Mailwasher, it would be obvious that "MailWasher works independently of
other email programs so it doesn’t matter which one you use." The paid Pro
version utilizes the DNS spam blacklists but they never ever donate any
monies from their commercial Pro version to support those blacklists. The
freebie version lets you monitor all of just one account. Oh, gee, wow.
You end up having to look into the separate Mailwasher program to check for
spam as it won't prevent them from getting into Outlook when you do a mail
poll from there. It has an auto-bounce "feature" that should never be used
because all that does is send superfluous mails to domain to bogus e-mail
addresses or slam innocents with Mailwasher's NDR spam that the spammer
pretended was their e-mail address, it violates most ISP's TOS regarding the
operation of a server, and the bogus "bounces" from Mailwasher can easily be
distinguished from bounces from the user's actual mail server.

Maybe you meant SpamCop.net instead of SpamCop.com. SpamCop.net does NOT
have a $20 mod for Outlook. SpamCop.net provides spam reporting *SERVICES*
and you may, at your option, choose to subscribe to their blacklist if you
have an anti-spam product that looks at their blacklist. You can also
choose to subscribe to their $20 e-mail *SERVICE*. That has nothing to do
with whatever e-mail client you happen to use as any POP3-compliant e-mail
client can connect to SpamCop's e-mail service.

 

[Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]]

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You are deliberately and overtly lying.

In other words, this you are a SPAMMER!

<snip>

<winces> Wow, such vitriol! I don't see anything in the OP's message that
could justify an accusation like that. Cool off and play nice with the other
kids. Here's a cookie.

 

[Vanguard]

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"

Vanguard typed:

<snip>

<winces> Wow, such vitriol! I don't see anything in the OP's message that
could justify an accusation like that. Cool off and play nice with the
other kids. Here's a cookie.

The ID parameter in the links at that site identify it as a spam site. That
is, you navigate through the sales associate's link so any purchase
therefrom gets them a commission. Their post was not in response to a
request for help but instead to hawk the site. The product does NOT do or
operate as the OP claimed.

The OP points to a spam site. The post wasn't a response to someone asking
for help. The OP misleads as to what the unnamed product does (which turns
out to be Mailwasher). If the OP hadn't a clue about the site or what
Mailwasher really does then they had no business professing it as an
unsolicited solution.

Personally I don't think the OP is as dumb as you think they are.

 

[Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]]

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"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"

Vanguard typed:

<snip>

<winces> Wow, such vitriol! I don't see anything in the OP's message
that could justify an accusation like that. Cool off and play nice
with the other kids. Here's a cookie.

The ID parameter in the links at that site

(and I note that the OP didn't provide an actual URL)

identify it as a spam
site. That is, you navigate through the sales associate's link so
any purchase therefrom gets them a commission. Their post was not in
response to a request for help but instead to hawk the site.

I think you're presuming that rather than knowing it.

product does NOT do or operate as the OP claimed.

The OP points to a spam site. The post wasn't a response to someone
asking for help. The OP misleads as to what the unnamed product does
(which turns out to be Mailwasher). If the OP hadn't a clue about
the site or what Mailwasher really does then they had no business
professing it as an unsolicited solution.

Personally I don't think the OP is as dumb as you think they are.

Possibly, but I prefer to err on the side of caution.

 

[Vanguard]

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"

Possibly, but I prefer to err on the side of caution.

Okay. You play the good cop. I'll be the bad cop.

 

[Pat Willener]

When spam messages reach your inbox, the tracks to the original sender
have long been lost. But you can always find the originating IP address,
which is probably an infected spambot. You can use spamcop.net to help
you analyzing the spam headers.

Outlook 2003 *does* have spam filtering that is regularly updated.