STARTUP PROGRAMS

G

Guest

MY LAPTOP TAKES A WHILE TO LOAD UP.

I BELIOEVE THIS IS BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PROGRAMS IT IS STARTING UP.
ICONS OF WHICH ARE THEN DEPOSITED INTO THE TASKBAR.

I CANT FIGURE OUT HOW TO STOP IT LOADING THESE PROGRAMS ...SOME I WANT TO BE
INTIATED BUT MANY I DONT.

I UNDERSTAND IF I TRIM THE LIST DOWN THAT MY STARTUP SPEED WILL IMPROVE.

I HAVE ALSO BEEN TOLD THAT HAVING FILES RESIDINHG ON THE DESKTOP SLOWS THE
PROCESS. IS THIS TRUE ? IF SO HOW SO ?
THANKS
JIM
 
G

Guest

Thank you for that .... I have recognised some stuff to take out ...but it
took 30secs to get to the sign on screen after the reboot and then more than
a minute to be ready for me to launch manually OE and opera. Any key items /
things I can do ? Its got a big hard disk for a laptop 80gig with 10 gig
unused.
 
G

Guest

HI JIM
the easiest way to do this is click on start then run, and type
"msconfig" this will then bring up a screen and i think the end tab shows the
start up programs, just untick the ones you dont want to start up, but be
careful and only untick the ones you know, if you are not sure then do a
google search on the name and this will tell you all about it, and if you can
stop it from running ok, if you do untick one and it does not load a program
that you want ruuning then just go back into msconfig again and put the tick
back in, hope this helps, never heard of a problem with desktop files slowing
down a pc as these ar only shortcuts. ;-)
 
R

R. McCarty

One thing to check on "Slow" or perceived slow boot is the System
Event Log. Many times you'll have Services that do not start up in a
timely manner and generate errors. To access Event Viewer:
Click Start, Run (Type) EventVwr.Msc [Enter]
Expand the System Category and scan the Chronological log in the
Right pane for Red Icons that denote errors. A double-Click on each
entry will display the details box with a short Text description and the
numerical Error Code.
Sometimes it's best to clear all logs, do a reboot and check. This way
you are dealing with the most recent data.

XP should not have ANY errors in it's System log, if any occur they
should be resolved.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

jim said:
MY LAPTOP TAKES A WHILE TO LOAD UP.


Please don't yell at us. We can hear you if you type normally, in mixed
case.

I BELIOEVE THIS IS BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PROGRAMS IT IS STARTING
UP. ICONS OF WHICH ARE THEN DEPOSITED INTO THE TASKBAR.

I CANT FIGURE OUT HOW TO STOP IT LOADING THESE PROGRAMS ...SOME I
WANT TO BE INTIATED BUT MANY I DONT.


First, note that you should be concerned with *all* programs that start
automatically, not just with those that go into the tray. Not all
autostarting programs manifest themselves by an icon in the tray.

On each program you don't want to start automatically, check its Options to
see if it has the choice not to start (make sure you actually choose the
option not to run it, not just a "don't show icon" option). Many can easily
and best be stopped that way. If that doesn't work, run MSCONFIG from the
Start | Run line, and on the Startup tab, uncheck the programs you don't
want to start automatically.

However, if I were you, I wouldn't do this just for the purpose of running
the minimum number of programs. Despite what many people tell you, you
should be concerned, not with how *many* of these programs you run, but
*which*. Some of them can hurt performance severely, but others have no
effect on performance.

Don't just stop programs from running willy-nilly. What you should do is
determine what each program is, what its value is to you, and what the cost
in performance is of its running all the time. You can get more information
about these at http://castlecops.com/StartupList.html. If you can't find it
there, try google searches and ask about specifics here.

Once you have that information, you can make an intelligent informed
decision about what you want to keep and what you want to get rid of.



I UNDERSTAND IF I TRIM THE LIST DOWN THAT MY STARTUP SPEED WILL
IMPROVE.


It often will but it may not. It depends entirely on *what* programs you
remove from the list.

I HAVE ALSO BEEN TOLD THAT HAVING FILES RESIDINHG ON THE DESKTOP
SLOWS THE PROCESS. IS THIS TRUE ?



No.
 
G

Gerry Cornell

Jim

You need more free disk space.

To investigate how you are using hard disk space you need to make sure that
you can see all files. Go to Start, Control Panel, Folder Options, View,
Advanced Settings and verify that the box before "Show hidden files and
folders" is checked and "Hide protected operating system files " is
unchecked. You may need to scroll down to see the second item. You should
also make certain that the box before "Hide extensions for known file types"
is not checked. Next in Windows Explorer make sure View, Details is selected
and then select View, Choose Details and check before Name, Type, Total
Size, and Free Space.

You still will not see the System Volume Information folder.
How to Gain Access to the System Volume Information Folder
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;309531

FileSize -a useful tool for use with Windows Explorer when investigating how
disk space is being used.
http://markd.mvps.org/

The download link is not obvious. Click the here in the two sentences of the
web page accessed through the link above. "I can't count the number of times
someone has asked for this. So here is a module you can install that shows a
Folder Size column in Explorer."

To increase you free space on your C select Start, All Programs,
Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and
remove all but the latest System Restore points? Restore points can be quite
large.

You should use Disk CleanUp regularly to Empty your Recycle Bin and
Remove Temporary Internet Files. Whenever you remove redundant files you
should always run Disk Defragmenter by selecting Start, All Programs,
Accessories, System Tools, Disk Defragmenter.

Are you using any Norton Utilities?

If your hard drive is formatted as NTFS another potential gain arises with
your operating system on your C drive. In the Windows Directory of your
C partition you will have some Uninstall folders in your Windows folder
typically: $NtServicePackUninstall$ and $NtUninstallKB282010$ etc.

These files may be compressed or not compressed. If compressed the
text of the folder name appears in blue characters. If not compressed
you can compress them. Right click on each folder and select Properties,
General, Advanced and check the box before Compress contents to
save Disk Space. On the General Tab you can see the amount gained
by deducting the size on disk from the size. Folder compression is
only an option on a NTFS formatted drive / partition.

Another default setting on a large drive which could be wasteful is that for
temporary internet files especially if you do not store offline copies on
disk. The default allocation is 3% of drive. Depending on your attitude to
offline copies you could reduce this to 1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer
select Tools, Internet Options, General, Temporary Internet Files, Settings
to make the change. At the same time look at the number of days history
is held.

The default allocation for the Recycle Bin is 10 % of drive. On your drive
5% should be sufficient. In Windows Explorer place the cursor on your
Recycle Bin, right click and select Properties, Global and move the slider
from 10% to 5%.

--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
G

Guest

Thanks Pete ... I did that and have two errors they are ..

The PfModNT service failed to start due to the following error:

The system cannot find the file specified.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.





The Creative Service for CDROM Access service failed to start due to the
following error:

The system cannot find the file specified

I have gone to the msn site but it didnt tell me how to fix them... any
clues ??
 
G

Guest

I have two errors on my event log after clearing and rebooting...went on the
website but no solution any clues ?


R. McCarty said:
One thing to check on "Slow" or perceived slow boot is the System
Event Log. Many times you'll have Services that do not start up in a
timely manner and generate errors. To access Event Viewer:
Click Start, Run (Type) EventVwr.Msc [Enter]
Expand the System Category and scan the Chronological log in the
Right pane for Red Icons that denote errors. A double-Click on each
entry will display the details box with a short Text description and the
numerical Error Code.
Sometimes it's best to clear all logs, do a reboot and check. This way
you are dealing with the most recent data.

XP should not have ANY errors in it's System log, if any occur they
should be resolved.

jim murphy said:
Thank you for that .... I have recognised some stuff to take out ...but it
took 30secs to get to the sign on screen after the reboot and then more
than
a minute to be ready for me to launch manually OE and opera. Any key items
/
things I can do ? Its got a big hard disk for a laptop 80gig with 10 gig
unused.
 
R

R. McCarty

Deciphering and fixing Event Log errors involves a fair amount of
detective work. First, you need to note the Event ID#. That is the
key to unlocking what is wrong. The Microsoft messaging on them
(Event Errors) are pretty basic. I would suggest you go to this web
site and get additional info about the #'s.
http://www.eventid.net/
It would also help to guide you, if you posted the new Event ID #'s
you found in your log.


jim murphy said:
I have two errors on my event log after clearing and rebooting...went on
the
website but no solution any clues ?


R. McCarty said:
One thing to check on "Slow" or perceived slow boot is the System
Event Log. Many times you'll have Services that do not start up in a
timely manner and generate errors. To access Event Viewer:
Click Start, Run (Type) EventVwr.Msc [Enter]
Expand the System Category and scan the Chronological log in the
Right pane for Red Icons that denote errors. A double-Click on each
entry will display the details box with a short Text description and the
numerical Error Code.
Sometimes it's best to clear all logs, do a reboot and check. This way
you are dealing with the most recent data.

XP should not have ANY errors in it's System log, if any occur they
should be resolved.

jim murphy said:
Thank you for that .... I have recognised some stuff to take out ...but
it
took 30secs to get to the sign on screen after the reboot and then more
than
a minute to be ready for me to launch manually OE and opera. Any key
items
/
things I can do ? Its got a big hard disk for a laptop 80gig with 10
gig
unused.
 
G

Guest

The PfModNT service failed to start due to the following error:

The system cannot find the file specified.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.



The two event errors where both 7000

The Creative Service for CDROM Access service failed to start due to the
following error:

The system cannot find the file specified

I have gone to the msn site but it didnt tell me how to fix them... any
clues ??


R. McCarty said:
One thing to check on "Slow" or perceived slow boot is the System
Event Log. Many times you'll have Services that do not start up in a
timely manner and generate errors. To access Event Viewer:
Click Start, Run (Type) EventVwr.Msc [Enter]
Expand the System Category and scan the Chronological log in the
Right pane for Red Icons that denote errors. A double-Click on each
entry will display the details box with a short Text description and the
numerical Error Code.
Sometimes it's best to clear all logs, do a reboot and check. This way
you are dealing with the most recent data.

XP should not have ANY errors in it's System log, if any occur they
should be resolved.

jim murphy said:
Thank you for that .... I have recognised some stuff to take out ...but it
took 30secs to get to the sign on screen after the reboot and then more
than
a minute to be ready for me to launch manually OE and opera. Any key items
/
things I can do ? Its got a big hard disk for a laptop 80gig with 10 gig
unused.
 
R

R. McCarty

Both of your problems stem from Creative Labs software. The CD
Access is an "Older" tool/service that probably isn't needed with
Windows XP. Creative drivers/software from just a short while ago
weren't well known for compatibility and free from issues like yours.

jim murphy said:
The PfModNT service failed to start due to the following error:

The system cannot find the file specified.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.



The two event errors where both 7000

The Creative Service for CDROM Access service failed to start due to the
following error:

The system cannot find the file specified

I have gone to the msn site but it didnt tell me how to fix them... any
clues ??


R. McCarty said:
One thing to check on "Slow" or perceived slow boot is the System
Event Log. Many times you'll have Services that do not start up in a
timely manner and generate errors. To access Event Viewer:
Click Start, Run (Type) EventVwr.Msc [Enter]
Expand the System Category and scan the Chronological log in the
Right pane for Red Icons that denote errors. A double-Click on each
entry will display the details box with a short Text description and the
numerical Error Code.
Sometimes it's best to clear all logs, do a reboot and check. This way
you are dealing with the most recent data.

XP should not have ANY errors in it's System log, if any occur they
should be resolved.

jim murphy said:
Thank you for that .... I have recognised some stuff to take out ...but
it
took 30secs to get to the sign on screen after the reboot and then more
than
a minute to be ready for me to launch manually OE and opera. Any key
items
/
things I can do ? Its got a big hard disk for a laptop 80gig with 10
gig
unused.
 
G

Guest

How can I cure the creative labs problem in th estart up I presume ?


R. McCarty said:
Both of your problems stem from Creative Labs software. The CD
Access is an "Older" tool/service that probably isn't needed with
Windows XP. Creative drivers/software from just a short while ago
weren't well known for compatibility and free from issues like yours.

jim murphy said:
The PfModNT service failed to start due to the following error:

The system cannot find the file specified.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.



The two event errors where both 7000

The Creative Service for CDROM Access service failed to start due to the
following error:

The system cannot find the file specified

I have gone to the msn site but it didnt tell me how to fix them... any
clues ??


R. McCarty said:
One thing to check on "Slow" or perceived slow boot is the System
Event Log. Many times you'll have Services that do not start up in a
timely manner and generate errors. To access Event Viewer:
Click Start, Run (Type) EventVwr.Msc [Enter]
Expand the System Category and scan the Chronological log in the
Right pane for Red Icons that denote errors. A double-Click on each
entry will display the details box with a short Text description and the
numerical Error Code.
Sometimes it's best to clear all logs, do a reboot and check. This way
you are dealing with the most recent data.

XP should not have ANY errors in it's System log, if any occur they
should be resolved.

Thank you for that .... I have recognised some stuff to take out ...but
it
took 30secs to get to the sign on screen after the reboot and then more
than
a minute to be ready for me to launch manually OE and opera. Any key
items
/
things I can do ? Its got a big hard disk for a laptop 80gig with 10
gig
unused.
 
R

R. McCarty

Which Creative Labs Sound Card does your PC have ? Based on
the model, I would go to Creative Labs site and download the latest
driver package for it. Before installing, I'd browse through the Add
Remove applet listing in Control Panel. See what Creative software
is currently installed. Probably you'll have a few "Support & Config"
type of tools. If it were me, I would uninstall most all the Creative
stuff on the PC and then install the latest driver (Only). Usually the
Creative installer offers something called a "Custom" install. It's this
option that would allow you to get drivers without all the additional
junk(?) that currently is causing the issues.

jim murphy said:
How can I cure the creative labs problem in th estart up I presume ?


R. McCarty said:
Both of your problems stem from Creative Labs software. The CD
Access is an "Older" tool/service that probably isn't needed with
Windows XP. Creative drivers/software from just a short while ago
weren't well known for compatibility and free from issues like yours.

jim murphy said:
The PfModNT service failed to start due to the following error:

The system cannot find the file specified.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.



The two event errors where both 7000

The Creative Service for CDROM Access service failed to start due to
the
following error:

The system cannot find the file specified

I have gone to the msn site but it didnt tell me how to fix them... any
clues ??


:

One thing to check on "Slow" or perceived slow boot is the System
Event Log. Many times you'll have Services that do not start up in a
timely manner and generate errors. To access Event Viewer:
Click Start, Run (Type) EventVwr.Msc [Enter]
Expand the System Category and scan the Chronological log in the
Right pane for Red Icons that denote errors. A double-Click on each
entry will display the details box with a short Text description and
the
numerical Error Code.
Sometimes it's best to clear all logs, do a reboot and check. This way
you are dealing with the most recent data.

XP should not have ANY errors in it's System log, if any occur they
should be resolved.

Thank you for that .... I have recognised some stuff to take out
...but
it
took 30secs to get to the sign on screen after the reboot and then
more
than
a minute to be ready for me to launch manually OE and opera. Any key
items
/
things I can do ? Its got a big hard disk for a laptop 80gig with 10
gig
unused.
 

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