B
Bill
Is it possible to change the startup order so that the internet connection
begins before programs relying on it do?
Thanks
begins before programs relying on it do?
Thanks
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Leonard Grey
What type of internet connection are we talking about?
Cable or FTTP - Your computer is always connected.
DSL or Dial-up - Your ISP can help you.
Satelite - I don't know squat about that, sorry.
Cable or FTTP - Your computer is always connected.
DSL or Dial-up - Your ISP can help you.
Satelite - I don't know squat about that, sorry.
B
Bill
Cable and always connected. I would like the internet connection to load
earlier than the programs which depend on it. As it is now, xp loads in a
haphazard manner which makes it necessary to start some programs over again.
Just would like have the internet connection load earlier
thanks,
earlier than the programs which depend on it. As it is now, xp loads in a
haphazard manner which makes it necessary to start some programs over again.
Just would like have the internet connection load earlier
thanks,
L
Leonard Grey
Your internet connection does not "load". It's hardware, not software.
You are always connected to the internet. Even when your computer is
turned off, it is connected to the internet.
An analogy: If you have cable TV, your television is always connected to
your cable provider. The only thing you have to do to watch the news is
to turn on the power. Same thing with your internet connection.
You are always connected to the internet. Even when your computer is
turned off, it is connected to the internet.
An analogy: If you have cable TV, your television is always connected to
your cable provider. The only thing you have to do to watch the news is
to turn on the power. Same thing with your internet connection.
O
Olórin
Leonard Grey said:Your internet connection does not "load". It's hardware, not software. You
are always connected to the internet. Even when your computer is turned
off, it is connected to the internet.
An analogy: If you have cable TV, your television is always connected to
your cable provider. The only thing you have to do to watch the news is to
turn on the power. Same thing with your internet connection.
If all he has to do is turn on the power - and not wait - then why does Bill
have to close and restart certain programs that need an Internet
"connection" to work properly?
T
Twayne
Is it possible to change the startup order so
HI Bill,
Not really possible. Just sort of an unsolicited
detail, but ...
It isn't the starting order of the programs that's
important; it's when they complete and become
operational. While windows used to load programs
serially at startup, today's programs load in
parallel. So in the latest versions of windows
many things load at the same time. As a result,
it boots faster, but whichever one takes the
longer time to load is actually going to be the
last one seen loaded, most of the time. So, it's
a little bit of a crapshoot, especially since they
also load in "chunks", meaning a part at at time.
Without dedicated programs, you have no way of
knowing what part of what loads when. Except in
your case where it matters<g>.
I do have a couple of suggestions to try:
Find and download the two following utilities and
run them:
-- ntregopt. It does not change the registry,
but it does sort of "compress" it, and reorganize
things so they load in a most efficient manner.
-- UPHclean. User Profile Hive cleanup utility.
Its purpose is to smooth out some of the things
that fail to load/unload properly, which is
another way to straighten out some of how things
load up.
IT's advertised mostly for shut down problems,
but I've found it to help a time or two with
booting issues, so ... can't hurt, might help.
You might google for something like xp +startup
+analysis and see what you get. Those are
programs that can watch the boot process and then
save them as a graphic explanation of the sequence
of programs that load against a timeline.
If you shold come across "bootvis", an
excellent program, it does NOT work with SP3
apparently, or it won't for me at least. It
worked "OK" with SP2 though a little clunky.
Things change. I would recommend not using it,
but ymmv I suppose.
Oh: There are ways to set programs for a "delayed
start" during boot, but it's a little complex and
I'd try the above first. Then if that's no help,
we can look at setting the delayed starts; it may
not work since not all programs will allow it, but
it is one more thing that can be tried.
HTH,
Twayne
that the
internet connection begins before programs
relying on it
do? Thanks
HI Bill,
Not really possible. Just sort of an unsolicited
detail, but ...
It isn't the starting order of the programs that's
important; it's when they complete and become
operational. While windows used to load programs
serially at startup, today's programs load in
parallel. So in the latest versions of windows
many things load at the same time. As a result,
it boots faster, but whichever one takes the
longer time to load is actually going to be the
last one seen loaded, most of the time. So, it's
a little bit of a crapshoot, especially since they
also load in "chunks", meaning a part at at time.
Without dedicated programs, you have no way of
knowing what part of what loads when. Except in
your case where it matters<g>.
I do have a couple of suggestions to try:
Find and download the two following utilities and
run them:
-- ntregopt. It does not change the registry,
but it does sort of "compress" it, and reorganize
things so they load in a most efficient manner.
-- UPHclean. User Profile Hive cleanup utility.
Its purpose is to smooth out some of the things
that fail to load/unload properly, which is
another way to straighten out some of how things
load up.
IT's advertised mostly for shut down problems,
but I've found it to help a time or two with
booting issues, so ... can't hurt, might help.
You might google for something like xp +startup
+analysis and see what you get. Those are
programs that can watch the boot process and then
save them as a graphic explanation of the sequence
of programs that load against a timeline.
If you shold come across "bootvis", an
excellent program, it does NOT work with SP3
apparently, or it won't for me at least. It
worked "OK" with SP2 though a little clunky.
Things change. I would recommend not using it,
but ymmv I suppose.
Oh: There are ways to set programs for a "delayed
start" during boot, but it's a little complex and
I'd try the above first. Then if that's no help,
we can look at setting the delayed starts; it may
not work since not all programs will allow it, but
it is one more thing that can be tried.
HTH,
Twayne
S
Stubbo of Oz
Is it possible to change the startup order so that the internet connection
begins before programs relying on it do?
Thanks
I thought of creating a batch file to run from your startup folder.
However, there does not seem to be a DOS command to wait for x
seconds!
So I Googled and found this solution.
The batch file should be as follows:-
ping -n 10 127.0.0.1 >NUL
"path to program\programname.exe"
Just adjust the -n 10 to a number that gives you a long enough delay
before your program starts..
R
Roger
Find Startup Delayer. Quoted:
"Startup Delayer allows you to configure which programs to start first
and which ones to delay when your computer is rebooted. You can set a
custom delay for each one, even drag the visual display graph which
shows you exactly how your programs are starting and allows you to
easily modify the order or adjust delay times."
"Startup Delayer allows you to configure which programs to start first
and which ones to delay when your computer is rebooted. You can set a
custom delay for each one, even drag the visual display graph which
shows you exactly how your programs are starting and allows you to
easily modify the order or adjust delay times."
S
Stubbo of Oz
I thought of creating a batch file to run from your startup folder.
However, there does not seem to be a DOS command to wait for x
seconds!
So I Googled and found this solution.
The batch file should be as follows:-
ping -n 10 127.0.0.1 >NUL
"path to program\programname.exe"
Just adjust the -n 10 to a number that gives you a long enough delay
before your program starts..
Or you could use the wait.exe command that I found here:-
ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/batchutl/wait.zip
so that the batch file would be:-
wait 10
"path to program\programname.exe"
T
Twayne
Is it possible to change the startup order so
that the
internet connection begins before programs
relying on it
do?
Thanks
I thought of creating a batch file to run from
your
startup folder. However, there does not seem to
be a DOS
command to wait for x seconds!
So I Googled and found this solution.
The batch file should be as follows:-
ping -n 10 127.0.0.1 >NUL
"path to program\programname.exe"
Just adjust the -n 10 to a number that gives you
a long
enough delay before your program starts..[/QUOTE]
Another way is to use DOS 6.22's choice command
choice.com. Works fine in XP; just put it in the
same folder as the rest of the DOS commands &
start using it.
You can either steal it from a DOS 6.22 set if
you have it around, or download it from many
places on the internet. Depending what the
computer is doing, ping can sometimes seem to not
work at first, so I went back to choice.
TWayne
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