The idea of a cache predates broadband and thus slow dialup 14,400 baud
was common and you
wanted to create a cache. I still think there is nothing wrong with
having a cache with
Broadband or nodes on a LAN. I just cap it at a logical size.
To complicate this conversation ;-)
I'll bring the comparison of NTFS and FAT32 into the equation and the
cluster size. When
you use FAT32 the cluster size increases as the size of the disk partition
increases. So if
the cluster size is 16KB or 32KB because you are use a large multi-GB hard
disk, then all
those 10's of thousands of small cache files really waste a lot of space.
For example a 4KB
file on a 16KB cluster size will actually consume 16KB of disk space and a
17KB file will
actually consume 32KB of disk space. As you can see the space consumption
per file is
always rounded up to the next cluster margin.
So again there is a reason NOT to have a very large cache and you have
cited some other
negative consequences that are brought about by having a very large IE
cache.
Dave
| Dave,
|
| I don't understand everything I know about it. I do know that with
cable I
| don't want to cache anything. Keep it on the servers.
|
| I do know that there are people with Content.IE5 folders that *never*
get
| emptied. Before I started deleting index.dats, they would grow so large
| that Notepad would puke before opening them.
|
| You ever see what kind of crap is in the "cache"? I clean mine out
daily,
| if not more often. I use OE for newsgroups. OE creates a zero byte
file
| for every message read. Plus wbkXYZ.tmp files when you Save a message
your
| working on, every time you hit Save. Yes some of this gets emptied when
you
| close IE & OE, but not all.
|
| I've been online about three hours. I just looked, 134 of the
wbk1D8.tmp
| files. Probably more now, I've Saved this message a couple of times
since
| that count. ;-) 91 of the zero byte files. My TIF folder is 0.99 MB.
| Content.IE5\index.dat is only 128KB, it was 32KB when I started.
|
| I do not necessarily believe this...
|
| [[Index.dat is the Internet Explorer cache index file. It facilitates
the
| browser cache mechanism that speeds access to frequently accessed web
pages
| across different browser processes in the same user context.]]
|
| From...
| Temporary Internet Files Use More Disk Space Than Specified
|
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301057
|
| The following are actual MSKB titles. The names have not been changed
to
| protect the innocent. Do not try this at home.
|
| Here are a few problems that may be caused by Temporary Internet Files
that
| are too full....
|
| Internet Explorer Saves Images As Bitmaps (.bmp Files)
| The Disk Cleanup Tool Stops Responding
| Error Message When You Open Photo: "The Page Cannot Be Displayed"
| OL2000: Internet Free/Busy Information Not Updated
| Money: Error Message: Money Is Unable to Verify Your Online Sign In
| OLEXP: Sent Web Page Is the Cached Version of the Web Page Not the Most
| Current Version of the Web Page
| Outlook Express message appears blank and has an ATT000XX.txt or an
| ATT000XX.htm attachment
|
| --
| Hope this helps. Let us know.
| Wes
|
| In | David H. Lipman <
[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
| > Wesley:
| >
| > It blows my mind that there are IE caches out there that are 1GB
| > large. Since cached Internet files tend to be small, that means
| > there are 10's of thousands of files in the cache. The whole idea of
| > the cache is to speed up access on slow internet connections by
| > keeping some content local. However, when the cache get large it
| > takes as long or longer to search the cache for the data than getting
| > it from the Internet. I also want to mention that having a large IE
| > cache also slows down AV "On Demand" scans, CHKDSK functions and
| > defragmentation.
| >
| > Dave
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | >> Mine's 1MB. All index.dat files get deleted on every boot, whether
| >> they need it or not. ;-)
| >>
| >> --
| >> Hope this helps. Let us know.
| >> Wes
| >>
| >> In | >> David H. Lipman <
[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
| >>> MS uses a percentage of the hard disk for the cache. This is
| >>> ridiculous for today's large hard disks. The cache does NOT have to
| >>> be any larger than ~10MB.
| >>>
| >>> Dave
| >>>
| >>>
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> | >>>> Just to add, I find changing the file location for "Temporary
| >>>> Internet Files" makes "index.dat" (which swells up like a balloon)
| >>>> go away. This might be key in eliminating "cached" content you do
| >>>> not want. Not sure, but cutting the fat out of "index.dat" made my
| >>>> browser very much faster.
| >>>> CT
| >>>>
| >>>> | >>>>> To delete *all* Temporary Internet Files...
| >>>>>
| >>>>> 1) Start | Run | Type: inetcpl.cpl | OK
| >>>>> Or right click the Internet Explorer icon on your Desktop.
| >>>>> Or: Start | Settings | Control Panel | Internet Options.
| >>>>> Best to do this with all instances of Internet Explorer closed.
| >>>>> Especially
| >>>>> if there are a large number of files.
| >>>>> 2) On the General Tab, in the middle of the screen, click on
| >>>>> Delete Files 3) Check the box Delete all offline content
| >>>>> {This cleans
| >>>>>>> C:\Documents
| >>>>> and Settings\YourNameHere\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
| >>>>> AND C:\Documents and Settings\YourNameHere\Local
| >>>>> Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5 and \Content.MSO
| >>>>> 4) Click on OK and wait for the hourglass icon to stop after it
| >>>>> deletes the
| >>>>> temporary internet files
| >>>>> 5) You can now click on Delete Cookies and click OK to delete
| >>>>> cookies that websites have placed on your hard drive.
| >>>>>
| >>>>> --
| >>>>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
| >>>>> Wes
| >>>>>
| >>>>> In | >>>>> mnbizz <
[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
| >>>>>> Dave,
| >>>>>> I'd have to go with you on this one as I can count on no hands
| >>>>>> how many times deleting from within IE has worked...what a
| >>>>>> fricking joke that is...IE just stalls out, especially if there
| >>>>>> is spyware involved! Just what the heck does MVP stand for
| >>>>>> anyways.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> "David H. Lipman" wrote:
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>> Funny guy....
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> Dave
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> | >>>>>>>> David H. Lipman wrote on 19-Sep-2004 7:46 PM:
| >>>>>>>>> Clean -- By what solution ?
| >>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>> Kent:1, David:0
|
ocuments and Settings/Owner/Local