Speedtouch 330 USB Modem

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Guest

Hope someone can help me with this...

We have a Speedtouch 330 USB Modem via BT and want to network 3 computers
together (wired). We bought a DLink 4 port router, connected all the PC's
through the router and installed all relevant software, run the network
setup program, shared the internet connection etc. We can get internet
connection on the PC with the modem attached to it but cannot get the other
pc's onto the internet.

So as a temp measure we have unplugged the router, reinstalled the crossover
cable between just two PC's and they can both access the internet no
problem, without the router.

Is there any way I can connect all 3 together without a router or does
anyone know if you can buy a router that the USB modem is compatible with?

Thanks in advance for any ideas!!

K8 :)
 
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Steve Winograd [MVP]

Hope someone can help me with this...

We have a Speedtouch 330 USB Modem via BT and want to network 3 computers
together (wired). We bought a DLink 4 port router, connected all the PC's
through the router and installed all relevant software, run the network
setup program, shared the internet connection etc. We can get internet
connection on the PC with the modem attached to it but cannot get the other
pc's onto the internet.

So as a temp measure we have unplugged the router, reinstalled the crossover
cable between just two PC's and they can both access the internet no
problem, without the router.

Is there any way I can connect all 3 together without a router or does
anyone know if you can buy a router that the USB modem is compatible with?

Thanks in advance for any ideas!!

K8 :)

The problem is that your network has two routers: a hardware router
(D-Link), and a software router (Internet Connection Sharing on the PC
with the modem attached).

Here are three alternative solutions:

1. Return the D-Link router to the store and replace it with a simple
network switch, such as the D-Link DSS-5+.

2. Use the D-Link router as a network switch only, bypassing its
router capabilities:

a. Connect all three computers to the router's LAN ports.
b. Don't connect anything to the router's WAN (Internet) port.
c. Disable the router's built-in DHCP server.

3. Replace the D-Link router with a router that has a USB port for
connecting a DSL modem, and disable Internet Connection Sharing. I'm
not aware of any such units in the USA. I don't know about the UK.
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
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Dave Lowther

Hope someone can help me with this...

We have a Speedtouch 330 USB Modem via BT and want to network 3 computers
together (wired). We bought a DLink 4 port router, connected all the PC's
through the router and installed all relevant software, run the network
setup program, shared the internet connection etc. We can get internet
connection on the PC with the modem attached to it but cannot get the other
pc's onto the internet.

So as a temp measure we have unplugged the router, reinstalled the crossover
cable between just two PC's and they can both access the internet no
problem, without the router.

Is there any way I can connect all 3 together without a router or does
anyone know if you can buy a router that the USB modem is compatible with?

I was using the same modem as you with a BT ADSL account.

I had it set up like this:
a) The PC with the USB modem connected was set up with XP ICS (Internet
connection sharing)
b) All the PCs had their network cards linked to a *switch* (a hub would be
similar and would work almost as well).
c) In this configuration there really isn't a role for a router.

The above worked fine for over a year.

Small problems with the above set up:
1) The PC running ICS has to be left switched on. If it's taken down for
maintenance there is no internet access for anyone on the LAN.
2) Some people think that having a hardware firewall is more secure than
XP's built in software firewall.

When you bought the router I think you should have bought a router with a
built in ADSL modem. That's what I did when I upgraded so I no longer have
the original USB modem connected at all.

With my new set up all PCs plug in to the router and the router plugs in to
the phone line.

HTH

Dave.
 
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Ron Lowe

Hope someone can help me with this...

We have a Speedtouch 330 USB Modem via BT and want to network 3 computers
together (wired). We bought a DLink 4 port router, connected all the
PC's through the router and installed all relevant software, run the
network setup program, shared the internet connection etc. We can get
internet connection on the PC with the modem attached to it but cannot get
the other pc's onto the internet.

So as a temp measure we have unplugged the router, reinstalled the
crossover cable between just two PC's and they can both access the
internet no problem, without the router.

Is there any way I can connect all 3 together without a router or does
anyone know if you can buy a router that the USB modem is compatible with?

Thanks in advance for any ideas!!

K8 :)


What model D-link router did you buy?

Most ADSL routers have a built-in ADSL modem for their WAN side, and plug
directly into the line instead of the USB modem.
The USB modem goes in the bin.
Then all the PCs plug into the router LAN ports.
The router does the Internet Sharing, so none of the PCs should be running
Internet Conncection Sharing.
There's no 'host' pc, they are all 'clients' to the router.
It is not necessary to install any software anywhere.
All you need is a LAN card on each PC.

If the router has an RJ-45 network port for the WAN side, then you need an
ethernet ADSL modem to go with it. The USB device won't doo.

If you want to continue using the old USB modem, then you can either:

1) Leave it connected to one PC which is running ICS;
Hook all the computers together using a hub or switch, NOT a router.
The router can usually be crippled to act like a hub or switch.
-Go into its config and shut down the DHCP server.
-Plug all the PCs into the LAN ports, leave the WAN port disconnected.

2) Buy a router that takes the USB modem on the WAN side.

I'd not do either of these myself.
I'd make sure the router is an ADSL router with built-in modem, and dump the
USB modem.
Then hook it all up as per my first paragraph.
 
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Guest

Steve Winograd said:
The problem is that your network has two routers: a hardware router
(D-Link), and a software router (Internet Connection Sharing on the PC
with the modem attached).

Here are three alternative solutions:

1. Return the D-Link router to the store and replace it with a simple
network switch, such as the D-Link DSS-5+.

2. Use the D-Link router as a network switch only, bypassing its
router capabilities:

a. Connect all three computers to the router's LAN ports.
b. Don't connect anything to the router's WAN (Internet) port.
c. Disable the router's built-in DHCP server.

** I like this idea best but how do I do this?** The router is a DI604.**
 
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Steve Winograd [MVP]

[QUOTE= said:
[snip]
2. Use the D-Link router as a network switch only, bypassing its
router capabilities:

a. Connect all three computers to the router's LAN ports.
b. Don't connect anything to the router's WAN (Internet) port.
c. Disable the router's built-in DHCP server.

** I like this idea best but how do I do this?** The router is a DI604.**[/QUOTE]

The router has a built-in web server. Connect to it through the
router's IP address. If that's 192.168.0.1, then the web server
address is http://192.168.0.1 . Find the page for configuring the
router's DHCP server and disable it. For details, see the User
Manual:

http://www.dlink.com/products/support.asp?pid=62&sec=0#manual
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
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Guest

Thanks very much to everyone who replied, I've not had a go at fixing it yet
but I'm sure one of your answers will work!!
Kate
 

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