Slowness but more subtle in PPT 2007 and 2010 Beta!


B

Barclay Brown

I read this thread with interest. My slowness in ppt is more subtle. In ppt 2003 I could advance through a slide show, whether in show mode or edit mode, using Page Down and it would flip from slide to slide as fast as I could press the key. In ppt 2007 and now also in ppt 2010 Beta, it takes about one second to advance to the next slide, and this is consistent across many ppt files and is the same for all slides, regardless of content on the slide. This may not seem like a big deal, but when I'm giving a presentation and want to flip back or forward to a slide say 20 slides away, that takes 20 seconds! Ridiculous! Is this an intentional delay that I can turn off? Is there some other fix?

Thanks!

- Barclay
IBM




Steve Rindsberg wrote:

Re: PowerPoint 2007 very slow- SOLVED
27-Mar-08


It'll depend on where you're dragging it from and certain system settings
In some cases it's the same as inserting, but in others it can create an OLE
object instead of an inserted picture. OLE objects behave differently
(sometimes in desirable ways, sometimes not, depending on your desires <g>

If you want the image to remain "connected" to the app that created it so you
can doubleclick the image and launch the originating app, the OLE is your
friend. If you want small files, need to maintain full compatibility with
systems that don't have the originating app and want inserted pictures to behave
like inserted pictures in PPT, OLE is not your friend

Sounds like your system settings aren't causing an OLE object to be created
then

----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MV
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.co
PPTools: www.pptools.co
================================================

Previous Posts In This Thread:

PowerPoint 2007 very slow
I have been having problems with PowerPoint 2007 being very slow. It takes
forever to jump from slide to slide, and it is next to impossible to edit
text. I'm running PPT2007 on a Vista Business Laptop with 2GB of RAM, ample
hdd space, and the powerpoint file is about 12MB in size with about 30
slides.

I don't have anti-virus running, I do have a default HP LaserJet 4 local
printer driver installed (no printer though), and this is happening with all
of my PPT files. I did save this one to PPTX and did a "compress photos" to
no avail.

Anyone know how I can get PPT2007 to be better?

Re: PowerPoint 2007 very slow
Hi Steveh

See if playing with the graphics hardware acceleration helps
How to set graphics hardware acceleration bac
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00129.ht

Luc
--
Lucy Thomso
PowerPoint MV
MOS Master Instructo
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.a


RE: PowerPoint 2007 very slow
As well as what Lucy said

Do you have SP1 installed

Also some printer drivers can cause this even when there is a default driver
set locally, it might be worth trying something else as the defaul
--
Amazing PPT Hints, Tips and Tutorial

http://www.PPTAlchemy.co.u
http://www.technologytrish.co.u
email john AT technologytrish.co.u

:

I did turn on the hardware acceleration under powerpoint.
I did turn on the hardware acceleration under powerpoint. I also did have a
different printer driver, the Canon ir5000, as my default, then added the
LaserJet4 as a default for a troubleshooting step. It has not helped, so I
will probably remove the LaserJet4 (since i dont have this printer anyway)

This happens with every power point file, but all my power point files were
created in ppt2003. I dont want to recreate them all under ppt2007 as even
creating a new ppt2007 is incredibly slow.

Any other suggestions?

Steve

:

Try Windows hardware acceleration instead of PowerPoint's.
Try Windows hardware acceleration instead of PowerPoint's. Here are instrux:

http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00129.htm

Apologies if that's what you were referring to doing already.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



Thanks Echo S- I already have windows hardware acceleration to the maximum
Thanks Echo S- I already have windows hardware acceleration to the maximum
performance. BTW I wish those instructions on that FAQ would list Vista as
well...

Steve

:

Actually, I turned it up and down and everything in between.
Actually, I turned it up and down and everything in between. It just is very
slow. This is moving from character to character takes about 2-3 seconds.
Typing a word will show up 5 seconds later.
Steve

:

I'd check for an updated 'graphics card driver'... from eitherwww.ati.
I'd check for an updated 'graphics card driver'... from either

www.ati.com

or www.nvidia.com

or who ever made you card.


cheers
TAJ Simmons
Microsoft Powerpoint MVP

awesome - powerpoint templates,
http://www.awesomebackgrounds.com
powerpoint backgrounds, free samples, ppt tutorials...



Wow, I don't know.
Wow, I don't know.

Here's some information on PPT gets the slows, but it's not been updated for
PPT 2007. Maybe the things here are worth trying, though.

PowerPoint gets the SLOWS
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00114.htm

Generally, with 2007, it's the printer driver thing. Are the printer drivers
you installed actually installed on your computer, and not on a network
drive?

You know, you might also try running the Office Diagnostics. It's under
Office Button | PPT Options | Resources.

I think you mentioned antivirus software somewhere in here. You disabled it
as a test, right? Is it Norton? If so, you need to disable the Office
plug-in specifically.

Norton Anti-Virus and Office
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00387.htm

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



Re: PowerPoint 2007 very slow

Your wish is our comm...uh... suggestion.

Done. At least partially.

How to set graphics hardware acceleration back
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00129.htm


-----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================

Just updated to the latest driver from ATI for my computer.
Just updated to the latest driver from ATI for my computer. It's a Dell
Inspiron 6400 with x1300 graphics. Didn't help at all.

Summary of things I've tried:
1. new graphics driver
2. loaded HP LJ4 printer and set to default
3. use hardware acceleration- all settings
4. ppt use hardware acceleration
5. ppt resolution to 640x480 (although that wouldn't change the editing speed)
6. Changed back to my default printer iR5000
7. loaded AV and AS software and scanned. Unloaded AV/AS software.
8. Compress Photos
9. Save as pptx

My machine:
Dell 6400 Inspiron Laptop
1. 1.83Ghz core 2 duo
2. 2GB RAM
3. ATI x1300 discrete graphics
4. 1680x1050 screen
5. 80GB samsung HDD
6. Vista Business
7. Usually No anti-virus, no anti-spam software.

Problem file is 12MB in size, and originally composed in PPT2003. Problem is
that text is very slow to edit meaning that arrowing from character to
character takes 2-3

seconds each. Also changing from slide to slide takes 10-15 seconds or so.

Other files are better than this particular one, but still slow. My
solution: recreate the powerpoint file from scratch under ppt2007. If it gets
slow, i'll let you know

Steve

:

OK. I was creating a new power point 2007 presentation.
OK. I was creating a new power point 2007 presentation. It went fine for a
while. I added about 15 slides with just some text. Then I went back and
added a couple photos. Small photos. 4 640x480 photos onto 1 slide and
PowerPoint 2007 became unusable. So incredibly slow. I'm trying to resize the
photos to make them all fit on 1 slide with some text below each photo. It's
impossible to resize because powerpoint doesn't respond for 5 seconds when
dragging the mouse. The total powerpoint file size right now is 459k. Each of
the photos that I inserted were about 60k apiece. If I jump to another slide
that has only text on it, ppt is ok. When I go back to that slide with 4
photos, it takes about 15 seconds to update the display, then about 5 sec to
select a photo, and 5 sec to do anything to a photo

So it seems that PPT has a problem with photos. I've changed the view in ppt
to 100% so it shouldn't be a scaling problem. I've compressed the photos, but
they were small to begin with. It's not an issue of an older ppt file because
this was created in ppt2007. it's not a file size issue.

I'm going to try another printer driver. Any other thoughts? It's driving me
crazy.

Stev

:

Hi SteveIf you want you can send me the file & I'll see if it gets the slows
Hi Stev

If you want you can send me the file & I'll see if it gets the slows on my
laptop - at least we could narrow it down to pc specific/file specific. lucy
at aneasiertomorrow dot com dot au - make the obvious changes :-

Luc

--
Lucy Thomso
PowerPoint MV
MOS Master Instructo
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.a


No joy yet, but you deserve some for all the good detective work.
No joy yet, but you deserve some for all the good detective work

What about these photos? What's the source, what format are they in

TIFFs, for example, are instantly suspect, and so are some other image formats
once Photoshop has touched them

When in doubt, I sometimes "clean" images by opening them in an old, old copy of
PaintShop Pro and saving as PNG or JPG; running them through IrfanView should
work about the same (and it's available now, free, www.irfranview.com


----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MV
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.co
PPTools: www.pptools.co
================================================

I'll get to the solution in a minute. Here's what I did to solve the problem.
I'll get to the solution in a minute. Here's what I did to solve the problem.
Per Steve Rindsberg, I took all JPG files out of powerpoint. It was still
very slow. I deleted the master slide header and now it runs fine, but looks
kind of boring, especially since this is a photography training class file.
It kind of needs photos.

So I took the header.jpg (only 38kb in size), brought it into photoshop and
saved it as a png. Dragged that into PPT and it works fine. Now I played with
the options on saving the jpg file in photoshop. Turns out that if I turn off
the option to "embed ICC Profiles" from within photoshop, the jpg file works
fine in PPT. This option is turned on by default when saving files in
Photoshop (I have photoshop cs2).

Now I re-saved all the jpg photos and dropped them back into powerpoint, and
powerpoint still retains its speed. PROBLEM SOLVED.

Thanks to Lucy, John, Steve, Echo for all your suggestions. Feel free to put
this solution on your websites, and someone, Please pass this on to microsoft
as a bug. There should be no reason that ICC profiles ruins powerpoint
performance.

Thanks to ALL

Steve Hon
Minneapolis, MN

I'll get to the solution in a minute. Here's what I did to solve the problem.
I'll get to the solution in a minute. Here's what I did to solve the problem.
Per Steve Rindsberg, I took all JPG files out of powerpoint. It was still
very slow. I deleted the master slide header and now it runs fine, but looks
kind of boring, especially since this is a photography training class file.
It kind of needs photos.

So I took the header.jpg (only 38kb in size), brought it into photoshop and
saved it as a png. Dragged that into PPT and it works fine. Now I played with
the options on saving the jpg file in photoshop. Turns out that if I turn off
the option to "embed ICC Profiles" from within photoshop, the jpg file works
fine in PPT. This option is turned on by default when saving files in
Photoshop (I have photoshop cs2).

Now I re-saved all the jpg photos and dropped them back into powerpoint, and
powerpoint still retains its speed. PROBLEM SOLVED.

Thanks to Lucy, John, Steve, Echo for all your suggestions. Feel free to put
this solution on your websites, and someone, Please pass this on to microsoft
as a bug. There should be no reason that ICC profiles ruins powerpoint
performance.

Thanks to ALL!

Steve Hong
Minneapolis, MN

By the way, I actually recreated the whole shebang in Impress and that worked
By the way, I actually recreated the whole shebang in Impress and that worked
fine. I am going to go back to powerpoint, though, because I wasn't Impressed
with Impress;)

PPT is so much better, and easier, and now, just as fast

Steve

That's great news, Steve!
That's great news, Steve! Thanks for posting back with your solution.

One issue I see -- dragging your files into PPT isn't a good idea. It
creates OLE objects -- so you can double-click the file and edit it in
Photoshop within PPT. That adds a lot of overhead, and I suspect it
contributed to the slows.

Although, you know, I'm not sure drag-n-drop works that way anymore in PPT
2007, so take that with a grain of salt. I'll try to test that later today.

But man, the color profile stuff affecting it is extremely interesting as
well! Nice detective work!

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



Thanks for the feedback on this and the solution, Steve.One other suggestion ..
Thanks for the feedback on this and the solution, Steve.

One other suggestion ... never drag images into PPT.
Instead, save them as image files then use Insert, Picture, From File to insert
them.


-----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================

Steve-I couldn't find a difference between dragging a photo into ppt2007 and
Steve-
I couldn't find a difference between dragging a photo into ppt2007 and
inserting an image. I tried it both ways on a brand new document, and
everything I could find within ppt seemed to be the same.

Either way, I could not double-click to edit the image. Either way,
right-click "change picture" brought up the same dialog box (a file/directory
browser). I could apply the same options, and had the same fields available.
This is dragging and dropping from an explorer window. I also dragged and
dropped a photo from Internet Explorer to PPT and found no difference.

Can you explain further why one shouldn't drag and drop into PPT?

Re: PowerPoint 2007 very slow- SOLVED
As I mentioned...


--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



Re: PowerPoint 2007 very slow- SOLVED

It'll depend on where you're dragging it from and certain system settings.
In some cases it's the same as inserting, but in others it can create an OLE
object instead of an inserted picture. OLE objects behave differently
(sometimes in desirable ways, sometimes not, depending on your desires <g>)

If you want the image to remain "connected" to the app that created it so you
can doubleclick the image and launch the originating app, the OLE is your
friend. If you want small files, need to maintain full compatibility with
systems that don't have the originating app and want inserted pictures to behave
like inserted pictures in PPT, OLE is not your friend.


Sounds like your system settings aren't causing an OLE object to be created
then.


-----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================


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I don't know why you are seeing this but here I don't. I do sometimes see
slight lag in 2007compared to 2003 but usually I can flip through slides
pretty well instantly. This is especially true in 2010 beta
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Barclay Brown said:
I read this thread with interest. My slowness in ppt is more subtle. In ppt 2003 I could advance through a slide show, whether in show mode or edit mode, using Page Down and it would flip from slide to slide as fast as I could press the key. In ppt 2007 and now also in ppt 2010 Beta, it takes about one second to advance to the next slide, and this is consistent across many ppt files and is the same for all slides, regardless of content on the slide. This may not seem like a big deal, but when I'm giving a presentation and want to flip back or forward to a slide say 20 slides away, that takes 20 seconds! Ridiculous! Is this an intentional delay that I can turn off? Is there some other fix?

Thanks!

- Barclay
IBM




Steve Rindsberg wrote:

Re: PowerPoint 2007 very slow- SOLVED
27-Mar-08


It'll depend on where you're dragging it from and certain system settings.
In some cases it's the same as inserting, but in others it can create an OLE
object instead of an inserted picture. OLE objects behave differently
(sometimes in desirable ways, sometimes not, depending on your desires <g>)

If you want the image to remain "connected" to the app that created it so you
can doubleclick the image and launch the originating app, the OLE is your
friend. If you want small files, need to maintain full compatibility with
systems that don't have the originating app and want inserted pictures to behave
like inserted pictures in PPT, OLE is not your friend.


Sounds like your system settings aren't causing an OLE object to be created
then.


-----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================

Previous Posts In This Thread:

PowerPoint 2007 very slow
I have been having problems with PowerPoint 2007 being very slow. It takes
forever to jump from slide to slide, and it is next to impossible to edit
text. I'm running PPT2007 on a Vista Business Laptop with 2GB of RAM, ample
hdd space, and the powerpoint file is about 12MB in size with about 30
slides.

I don't have anti-virus running, I do have a default HP LaserJet 4 local
printer driver installed (no printer though), and this is happening with all
of my PPT files. I did save this one to PPTX and did a "compress photos" to
no avail.

Anyone know how I can get PPT2007 to be better?

Re: PowerPoint 2007 very slow
Hi Steveho

See if playing with the graphics hardware acceleration helps:
How to set graphics hardware acceleration back
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00129.htm

Lucy
--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au



RE: PowerPoint 2007 very slow
As well as what Lucy said:

Do you have SP1 installed?

Also some printer drivers can cause this even when there is a default driver
set locally, it might be worth trying something else as the default
--
Amazing PPT Hints, Tips and Tutorials

http://www.PPTAlchemy.co.uk
http://www.technologytrish.co.uk
email john AT technologytrish.co.uk


:

I did turn on the hardware acceleration under powerpoint.
I did turn on the hardware acceleration under powerpoint. I also did have a
different printer driver, the Canon ir5000, as my default, then added the
LaserJet4 as a default for a troubleshooting step. It has not helped, so I
will probably remove the LaserJet4 (since i dont have this printer anyway).

This happens with every power point file, but all my power point files were
created in ppt2003. I dont want to recreate them all under ppt2007 as even
creating a new ppt2007 is incredibly slow.

Any other suggestions?

Steve

:

Try Windows hardware acceleration instead of PowerPoint's.
Try Windows hardware acceleration instead of PowerPoint's. Here are instrux:

http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00129.htm

Apologies if that's what you were referring to doing already.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



Thanks Echo S- I already have windows hardware acceleration to the maximum
Thanks Echo S- I already have windows hardware acceleration to the maximum
performance. BTW I wish those instructions on that FAQ would list Vista as
well...

Steve

:

Actually, I turned it up and down and everything in between.
Actually, I turned it up and down and everything in between. It just is very
slow. This is moving from character to character takes about 2-3 seconds.
Typing a word will show up 5 seconds later.
Steve

:

I'd check for an updated 'graphics card driver'... from eitherwww.ati.
I'd check for an updated 'graphics card driver'... from either

www.ati.com

or www.nvidia.com

or who ever made you card.


cheers
TAJ Simmons
Microsoft Powerpoint MVP

awesome - powerpoint templates,
http://www.awesomebackgrounds.com
powerpoint backgrounds, free samples, ppt tutorials...



Wow, I don't know.
Wow, I don't know.

Here's some information on PPT gets the slows, but it's not been updated for
PPT 2007. Maybe the things here are worth trying, though.

PowerPoint gets the SLOWS
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00114.htm

Generally, with 2007, it's the printer driver thing. Are the printer drivers
you installed actually installed on your computer, and not on a network
drive?

You know, you might also try running the Office Diagnostics. It's under
Office Button | PPT Options | Resources.

I think you mentioned antivirus software somewhere in here. You disabled it
as a test, right? Is it Norton? If so, you need to disable the Office
plug-in specifically.

Norton Anti-Virus and Office
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00387.htm

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



Re: PowerPoint 2007 very slow

Your wish is our comm...uh... suggestion.

Done. At least partially.

How to set graphics hardware acceleration back
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00129.htm


-----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================

Just updated to the latest driver from ATI for my computer.
Just updated to the latest driver from ATI for my computer. It's a Dell
Inspiron 6400 with x1300 graphics. Didn't help at all.

Summary of things I've tried:
1. new graphics driver
2. loaded HP LJ4 printer and set to default
3. use hardware acceleration- all settings
4. ppt use hardware acceleration
5. ppt resolution to 640x480 (although that wouldn't change the editing speed)
6. Changed back to my default printer iR5000
7. loaded AV and AS software and scanned. Unloaded AV/AS software.
8. Compress Photos
9. Save as pptx

My machine:
Dell 6400 Inspiron Laptop
1. 1.83Ghz core 2 duo
2. 2GB RAM
3. ATI x1300 discrete graphics
4. 1680x1050 screen
5. 80GB samsung HDD
6. Vista Business
7. Usually No anti-virus, no anti-spam software.

Problem file is 12MB in size, and originally composed in PPT2003. Problem is
that text is very slow to edit meaning that arrowing from character to
character takes 2-3

seconds each. Also changing from slide to slide takes 10-15 seconds or so.

Other files are better than this particular one, but still slow. My
solution: recreate the powerpoint file from scratch under ppt2007. If it gets
slow, i'll let you know

Steve

:

OK. I was creating a new power point 2007 presentation.
OK. I was creating a new power point 2007 presentation. It went fine for a
while. I added about 15 slides with just some text. Then I went back and
added a couple photos. Small photos. 4 640x480 photos onto 1 slide and
PowerPoint 2007 became unusable. So incredibly slow. I'm trying to resize the
photos to make them all fit on 1 slide with some text below each photo. It's
impossible to resize because powerpoint doesn't respond for 5 seconds when
dragging the mouse. The total powerpoint file size right now is 459k. Each of
the photos that I inserted were about 60k apiece. If I jump to another slide
that has only text on it, ppt is ok. When I go back to that slide with 4
photos, it takes about 15 seconds to update the display, then about 5 sec to
select a photo, and 5 sec to do anything to a photo.

So it seems that PPT has a problem with photos. I've changed the view in ppt
to 100% so it shouldn't be a scaling problem. I've compressed the photos, but
they were small to begin with. It's not an issue of an older ppt file because
this was created in ppt2007. it's not a file size issue.

I'm going to try another printer driver. Any other thoughts? It's driving me
crazy.

Steve

:

Hi SteveIf you want you can send me the file & I'll see if it gets the slows
Hi Steve

If you want you can send me the file & I'll see if it gets the slows on my
laptop - at least we could narrow it down to pc specific/file specific. lucy
at aneasiertomorrow dot com dot au - make the obvious changes :)

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au



No joy yet, but you deserve some for all the good detective work.
No joy yet, but you deserve some for all the good detective work.

What about these photos? What's the source, what format are they in?

TIFFs, for example, are instantly suspect, and so are some other image formats
once Photoshop has touched them.

When in doubt, I sometimes "clean" images by opening them in an old, old copy of
PaintShop Pro and saving as PNG or JPG; running them through IrfanView should
work about the same (and it's available now, free, www.irfranview.com)


-----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================

I'll get to the solution in a minute. Here's what I did to solve the problem.
I'll get to the solution in a minute. Here's what I did to solve the problem.
Per Steve Rindsberg, I took all JPG files out of powerpoint. It was still
very slow. I deleted the master slide header and now it runs fine, but looks
kind of boring, especially since this is a photography training class file.
It kind of needs photos.

So I took the header.jpg (only 38kb in size), brought it into photoshop and
saved it as a png. Dragged that into PPT and it works fine. Now I played with
the options on saving the jpg file in photoshop. Turns out that if I turn off
the option to "embed ICC Profiles" from within photoshop, the jpg file works
fine in PPT. This option is turned on by default when saving files in
Photoshop (I have photoshop cs2).

Now I re-saved all the jpg photos and dropped them back into powerpoint, and
powerpoint still retains its speed. PROBLEM SOLVED.

Thanks to Lucy, John, Steve, Echo for all your suggestions. Feel free to put
this solution on your websites, and someone, Please pass this on to microsoft
as a bug. There should be no reason that ICC profiles ruins powerpoint
performance.

Thanks to ALL!

Steve Hong
Minneapolis, MN

I'll get to the solution in a minute. Here's what I did to solve the problem.
I'll get to the solution in a minute. Here's what I did to solve the problem.
Per Steve Rindsberg, I took all JPG files out of powerpoint. It was still
very slow. I deleted the master slide header and now it runs fine, but looks
kind of boring, especially since this is a photography training class file.
It kind of needs photos.

So I took the header.jpg (only 38kb in size), brought it into photoshop and
saved it as a png. Dragged that into PPT and it works fine. Now I played with
the options on saving the jpg file in photoshop. Turns out that if I turn off
the option to "embed ICC Profiles" from within photoshop, the jpg file works
fine in PPT. This option is turned on by default when saving files in
Photoshop (I have photoshop cs2).

Now I re-saved all the jpg photos and dropped them back into powerpoint, and
powerpoint still retains its speed. PROBLEM SOLVED.

Thanks to Lucy, John, Steve, Echo for all your suggestions. Feel free to put
this solution on your websites, and someone, Please pass this on to microsoft
as a bug. There should be no reason that ICC profiles ruins powerpoint
performance.

Thanks to ALL!

Steve Hong
Minneapolis, MN

By the way, I actually recreated the whole shebang in Impress and that worked
By the way, I actually recreated the whole shebang in Impress and that worked
fine. I am going to go back to powerpoint, though, because I wasn't Impressed
with Impress;)

PPT is so much better, and easier, and now, just as fast

Steve

That's great news, Steve!
That's great news, Steve! Thanks for posting back with your solution.

One issue I see -- dragging your files into PPT isn't a good idea. It
creates OLE objects -- so you can double-click the file and edit it in
Photoshop within PPT. That adds a lot of overhead, and I suspect it
contributed to the slows.

Although, you know, I'm not sure drag-n-drop works that way anymore in PPT
2007, so take that with a grain of salt. I'll try to test that later today.

But man, the color profile stuff affecting it is extremely interesting as
well! Nice detective work!

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What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
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Thanks for the feedback on this and the solution, Steve.One other suggestion ..
Thanks for the feedback on this and the solution, Steve.

One other suggestion ... never drag images into PPT.
Instead, save them as image files then use Insert, Picture, From File to insert
them.


-----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================

Steve-I couldn't find a difference between dragging a photo into ppt2007 and
Steve-
I couldn't find a difference between dragging a photo into ppt2007 and
inserting an image. I tried it both ways on a brand new document, and
everything I could find within ppt seemed to be the same.

Either way, I could not double-click to edit the image. Either way,
right-click "change picture" brought up the same dialog box (a file/directory
browser). I could apply the same options, and had the same fields available.
This is dragging and dropping from an explorer window. I also dragged and
dropped a photo from Internet Explorer to PPT and found no difference.

Can you explain further why one shouldn't drag and drop into PPT?

Re: PowerPoint 2007 very slow- SOLVED
As I mentioned...


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Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



Re: PowerPoint 2007 very slow- SOLVED

It'll depend on where you're dragging it from and certain system settings.
In some cases it's the same as inserting, but in others it can create an OLE
object instead of an inserted picture. OLE objects behave differently
(sometimes in desirable ways, sometimes not, depending on your desires <g>)

If you want the image to remain "connected" to the app that created it so you
can doubleclick the image and launch the originating app, the OLE is your
friend. If you want small files, need to maintain full compatibility with
systems that don't have the originating app and want inserted pictures to behave
like inserted pictures in PPT, OLE is not your friend.


Sounds like your system settings aren't causing an OLE object to be created
then.


-----------------------------------------
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PPTools: www.pptools.com
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Glen Millar

Hi,

Do you have some sort of fade slide transition (sorry if I missed that in
some thread)?

Anyway, 2007 is slower to respond. I had a sequence with over 400 images on
one slide. In 2007 it took 7 seconds to load the slide.

In 2003, it threw it at the slide instantly. What happens? In 2007, the
program renders all effects, including faded edges, Etc. Put that all in
2003 and it says "hey- don't understand the fancy stuff- just throw it on
the slide"!

Now, 2010 beats any previous version for graphic clarity and responsiveness.
But it still tries to interpret the fancy stuff. That, to me is a trade off
for a new world of effects

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Microsoft PPT MVP

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glen at pptworkbench dot com


in message
I read this thread with interest. My slowness in ppt is more subtle. In
ppt 2003 I could advance through a slide show, whether in show mode or
edit mode, using Page Down and it would flip from slide to slide as fast
as I could press the key. In ppt 2007 and now also in ppt 2010 Beta, it
takes about one second to advance to the next slide, and this is
consistent across many ppt files and is the same for all slides,
regardless of content on the slide. This may not seem like a big deal, but
when I'm giving a presentation and want to flip back or forward to a slide
say 20 slides away, that takes 20 seconds! Ridiculous! Is this an
intentional delay that I can turn off? Is there some other fix?

Thanks!

- Barclay
IBM




Steve Rindsberg wrote:

Re: PowerPoint 2007 very slow- SOLVED
27-Mar-08

It'll depend on where you're dragging it from and certain system settings.
In some cases it's the same as inserting, but in others it can create an
OLE
object instead of an inserted picture. OLE objects behave differently
(sometimes in desirable ways, sometimes not, depending on your desires
<g>)

If you want the image to remain "connected" to the app that created it so
you
can doubleclick the image and launch the originating app, the OLE is your
friend. If you want small files, need to maintain full compatibility with
systems that don't have the originating app and want inserted pictures to
behave
like inserted pictures in PPT, OLE is not your friend.


Sounds like your system settings aren't causing an OLE object to be
created
then.


-----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================

Previous Posts In This Thread:

PowerPoint 2007 very slow
I have been having problems with PowerPoint 2007 being very slow. It takes
forever to jump from slide to slide, and it is next to impossible to edit
text. I'm running PPT2007 on a Vista Business Laptop with 2GB of RAM,
ample
hdd space, and the powerpoint file is about 12MB in size with about 30
slides.

I don't have anti-virus running, I do have a default HP LaserJet 4 local
printer driver installed (no printer though), and this is happening with
all
of my PPT files. I did save this one to PPTX and did a "compress photos"
to
no avail.

Anyone know how I can get PPT2007 to be better?

Re: PowerPoint 2007 very slow
Hi Steveho

See if playing with the graphics hardware acceleration helps:
How to set graphics hardware acceleration back
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00129.htm

Lucy
--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au



RE: PowerPoint 2007 very slow
As well as what Lucy said:

Do you have SP1 installed?

Also some printer drivers can cause this even when there is a default
driver
set locally, it might be worth trying something else as the default
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:

I did turn on the hardware acceleration under powerpoint.
I did turn on the hardware acceleration under powerpoint. I also did have
a
different printer driver, the Canon ir5000, as my default, then added the
LaserJet4 as a default for a troubleshooting step. It has not helped, so I
will probably remove the LaserJet4 (since i dont have this printer
anyway).

This happens with every power point file, but all my power point files
were
created in ppt2003. I dont want to recreate them all under ppt2007 as even
creating a new ppt2007 is incredibly slow.

Any other suggestions?

Steve

:

Try Windows hardware acceleration instead of PowerPoint's.
Try Windows hardware acceleration instead of PowerPoint's. Here are
instrux:

http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00129.htm

Apologies if that's what you were referring to doing already.

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What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



Thanks Echo S- I already have windows hardware acceleration to the maximum
Thanks Echo S- I already have windows hardware acceleration to the maximum
performance. BTW I wish those instructions on that FAQ would list Vista as
well...

Steve

:

Actually, I turned it up and down and everything in between.
Actually, I turned it up and down and everything in between. It just is
very
slow. This is moving from character to character takes about 2-3 seconds.
Typing a word will show up 5 seconds later.
Steve

:

I'd check for an updated 'graphics card driver'... from eitherwww.ati.
I'd check for an updated 'graphics card driver'... from either

www.ati.com

or www.nvidia.com

or who ever made you card.


cheers
TAJ Simmons
Microsoft Powerpoint MVP

awesome - powerpoint templates,
http://www.awesomebackgrounds.com
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Wow, I don't know.
Wow, I don't know.

Here's some information on PPT gets the slows, but it's not been updated
for
PPT 2007. Maybe the things here are worth trying, though.

PowerPoint gets the SLOWS
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00114.htm

Generally, with 2007, it's the printer driver thing. Are the printer
drivers
you installed actually installed on your computer, and not on a network
drive?

You know, you might also try running the Office Diagnostics. It's under
Office Button | PPT Options | Resources.

I think you mentioned antivirus software somewhere in here. You disabled
it
as a test, right? Is it Norton? If so, you need to disable the Office
plug-in specifically.

Norton Anti-Virus and Office
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00387.htm

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What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



Re: PowerPoint 2007 very slow
Your wish is our comm...uh... suggestion.

Done. At least partially.

How to set graphics hardware acceleration back
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00129.htm


-----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================

Just updated to the latest driver from ATI for my computer.
Just updated to the latest driver from ATI for my computer. It's a Dell
Inspiron 6400 with x1300 graphics. Didn't help at all.

Summary of things I've tried:
1. new graphics driver
2. loaded HP LJ4 printer and set to default
3. use hardware acceleration- all settings
4. ppt use hardware acceleration
5. ppt resolution to 640x480 (although that wouldn't change the editing
speed)
6. Changed back to my default printer iR5000
7. loaded AV and AS software and scanned. Unloaded AV/AS software.
8. Compress Photos
9. Save as pptx

My machine:
Dell 6400 Inspiron Laptop
1. 1.83Ghz core 2 duo
2. 2GB RAM
3. ATI x1300 discrete graphics
4. 1680x1050 screen
5. 80GB samsung HDD
6. Vista Business
7. Usually No anti-virus, no anti-spam software.

Problem file is 12MB in size, and originally composed in PPT2003. Problem
is
that text is very slow to edit meaning that arrowing from character to
character takes 2-3

seconds each. Also changing from slide to slide takes 10-15 seconds or so.

Other files are better than this particular one, but still slow. My
solution: recreate the powerpoint file from scratch under ppt2007. If it
gets
slow, i'll let you know

Steve

:

OK. I was creating a new power point 2007 presentation.
OK. I was creating a new power point 2007 presentation. It went fine for a
while. I added about 15 slides with just some text. Then I went back and
added a couple photos. Small photos. 4 640x480 photos onto 1 slide and
PowerPoint 2007 became unusable. So incredibly slow. I'm trying to resize
the
photos to make them all fit on 1 slide with some text below each photo.
It's
impossible to resize because powerpoint doesn't respond for 5 seconds when
dragging the mouse. The total powerpoint file size right now is 459k. Each
of
the photos that I inserted were about 60k apiece. If I jump to another
slide
that has only text on it, ppt is ok. When I go back to that slide with 4
photos, it takes about 15 seconds to update the display, then about 5 sec
to
select a photo, and 5 sec to do anything to a photo.

So it seems that PPT has a problem with photos. I've changed the view in
ppt
to 100% so it shouldn't be a scaling problem. I've compressed the photos,
but
they were small to begin with. It's not an issue of an older ppt file
because
this was created in ppt2007. it's not a file size issue.

I'm going to try another printer driver. Any other thoughts? It's driving
me
crazy.

Steve

:

Hi SteveIf you want you can send me the file & I'll see if it gets the
slows
Hi Steve

If you want you can send me the file & I'll see if it gets the slows on my
laptop - at least we could narrow it down to pc specific/file specific.
lucy
at aneasiertomorrow dot com dot au - make the obvious changes :)

Lucy

--
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PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au



No joy yet, but you deserve some for all the good detective work.
No joy yet, but you deserve some for all the good detective work.

What about these photos? What's the source, what format are they in?

TIFFs, for example, are instantly suspect, and so are some other image
formats
once Photoshop has touched them.

When in doubt, I sometimes "clean" images by opening them in an old, old
copy of
PaintShop Pro and saving as PNG or JPG; running them through IrfanView
should
work about the same (and it's available now, free, www.irfranview.com)

-----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================

I'll get to the solution in a minute. Here's what I did to solve the
problem.
I'll get to the solution in a minute. Here's what I did to solve the
problem.
Per Steve Rindsberg, I took all JPG files out of powerpoint. It was still
very slow. I deleted the master slide header and now it runs fine, but
looks
kind of boring, especially since this is a photography training class
file.
It kind of needs photos.

So I took the header.jpg (only 38kb in size), brought it into photoshop
and
saved it as a png. Dragged that into PPT and it works fine. Now I played
with
the options on saving the jpg file in photoshop. Turns out that if I turn
off
the option to "embed ICC Profiles" from within photoshop, the jpg file
works
fine in PPT. This option is turned on by default when saving files in
Photoshop (I have photoshop cs2).

Now I re-saved all the jpg photos and dropped them back into powerpoint,
and
powerpoint still retains its speed. PROBLEM SOLVED.

Thanks to Lucy, John, Steve, Echo for all your suggestions. Feel free to
put
this solution on your websites, and someone, Please pass this on to
microsoft
as a bug. There should be no reason that ICC profiles ruins powerpoint
performance.

Thanks to ALL!

Steve Hong
Minneapolis, MN

I'll get to the solution in a minute. Here's what I did to solve the
problem.
I'll get to the solution in a minute. Here's what I did to solve the
problem.
Per Steve Rindsberg, I took all JPG files out of powerpoint. It was still
very slow. I deleted the master slide header and now it runs fine, but
looks
kind of boring, especially since this is a photography training class
file.
It kind of needs photos.

So I took the header.jpg (only 38kb in size), brought it into photoshop
and
saved it as a png. Dragged that into PPT and it works fine. Now I played
with
the options on saving the jpg file in photoshop. Turns out that if I turn
off
the option to "embed ICC Profiles" from within photoshop, the jpg file
works
fine in PPT. This option is turned on by default when saving files in
Photoshop (I have photoshop cs2).

Now I re-saved all the jpg photos and dropped them back into powerpoint,
and
powerpoint still retains its speed. PROBLEM SOLVED.

Thanks to Lucy, John, Steve, Echo for all your suggestions. Feel free to
put
this solution on your websites, and someone, Please pass this on to
microsoft
as a bug. There should be no reason that ICC profiles ruins powerpoint
performance.

Thanks to ALL!

Steve Hong
Minneapolis, MN

By the way, I actually recreated the whole shebang in Impress and that
worked
By the way, I actually recreated the whole shebang in Impress and that
worked
fine. I am going to go back to powerpoint, though, because I wasn't
Impressed
with Impress;)

PPT is so much better, and easier, and now, just as fast

Steve

That's great news, Steve!
That's great news, Steve! Thanks for posting back with your solution.

One issue I see -- dragging your files into PPT isn't a good idea. It
creates OLE objects -- so you can double-click the file and edit it in
Photoshop within PPT. That adds a lot of overhead, and I suspect it
contributed to the slows.

Although, you know, I'm not sure drag-n-drop works that way anymore in PPT
2007, so take that with a grain of salt. I'll try to test that later
today.

But man, the color profile stuff affecting it is extremely interesting as
well! Nice detective work!

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



Thanks for the feedback on this and the solution, Steve.One other
suggestion ..
Thanks for the feedback on this and the solution, Steve.

One other suggestion ... never drag images into PPT.
Instead, save them as image files then use Insert, Picture, From File to
insert
them.

-----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================

Steve-I couldn't find a difference between dragging a photo into ppt2007
and
Steve-
I couldn't find a difference between dragging a photo into ppt2007 and
inserting an image. I tried it both ways on a brand new document, and
everything I could find within ppt seemed to be the same.

Either way, I could not double-click to edit the image. Either way,
right-click "change picture" brought up the same dialog box (a
file/directory
browser). I could apply the same options, and had the same fields
available.
This is dragging and dropping from an explorer window. I also dragged and
dropped a photo from Internet Explorer to PPT and found no difference.

Can you explain further why one shouldn't drag and drop into PPT?

Re: PowerPoint 2007 very slow- SOLVED
As I mentioned...


--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx



Re: PowerPoint 2007 very slow- SOLVED
It'll depend on where you're dragging it from and certain system settings.
In some cases it's the same as inserting, but in others it can create an
OLE
object instead of an inserted picture. OLE objects behave differently
(sometimes in desirable ways, sometimes not, depending on your desires
<g>)

If you want the image to remain "connected" to the app that created it so
you
can doubleclick the image and launch the originating app, the OLE is your
friend. If you want small files, need to maintain full compatibility with
systems that don't have the originating app and want inserted pictures to
behave
like inserted pictures in PPT, OLE is not your friend.


Sounds like your system settings aren't causing an OLE object to be
created
then.


-----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================


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