Slow system-help

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bm

I have a desktop which performs reasonably well with 512 MB RAM and recently
I upgraded my laptop to have the same 512 MB of RAM but the performance is
infinitely slower on my laptop
What steps can I take to improve this performance>
I do a monthly clean up and a CHKDSK on both systems
All my emails is carried out on the desktop and the backup of my data from
the desktop is kept on the laptop.
Any suggestions please
Blair
 
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Malke

bm said:
I have a desktop which performs reasonably well with 512 MB RAM and
recently I upgraded my laptop to have the same 512 MB of RAM but the
performance is infinitely slower on my laptop
What steps can I take to improve this performance>
I do a monthly clean up and a CHKDSK on both systems
All my emails is carried out on the desktop and the backup of my data from
the desktop is kept on the laptop.
Any suggestions please
Blair

Slow or Sluggish Computer:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/slowcom.htm
http://aumha.org/a/health.htm - Take Out the Trash

Make sure the computer is virus/malware-free:
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware

Malke
 
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patetc

Blair:

I had this problem also but found that it was due to spyware on the
computer. If your laptop is online, download a spyware program. I
used http://www.superantispyware.com/

I also use Regcure to clean out the registry of unnecessary items.

Pat
 
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Blair

Malke said:
Slow or Sluggish Computer:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/slowcom.htm
http://aumha.org/a/health.htm - Take Out the Trash

Make sure the computer is virus/malware-free:
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware

Malke
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MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
Don't Panic!

Thank you for your helpful reply. I did not mention it on my message but I
already carry out checks using the following;
AVG,Defender,AVG Anti Rootkit, Spybot, AD Aware,A-squared and Smitfraud
I would have thought that this was enough
Blair
 
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Colon Terminus

bm said:
I have a desktop which performs reasonably well with 512 MB RAM and
recently I upgraded my laptop to have the same 512 MB of RAM but the
performance is infinitely slower on my laptop
What steps can I take to improve this performance>
I do a monthly clean up and a CHKDSK on both systems
All my emails is carried out on the desktop and the backup of my data from
the desktop is kept on the laptop.
Any suggestions please
Blair


This is always the case ... generally speaking laptops do not perform as
well as desktops.

Desktop CPUs have more horsepower.
Desktop hard disks are significantly faster.
Desktop video is faster.
 
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Daave

bm said:
I have a desktop which performs reasonably well with 512 MB RAM and
recently I upgraded my laptop to have the same 512 MB of RAM but the
performance is infinitely slower on my laptop
What steps can I take to improve this performance>
I do a monthly clean up and a CHKDSK on both systems
All my emails is carried out on the desktop and the backup of my data
from the desktop is kept on the laptop.
Any suggestions please

Assuming your problem is not malware related, consider the following:

It's possible a read error caused your hard drive access to change from
Ultra DMA to PIO mode, reset it:

http://technize.com/2007/08/02/is-your-hard-disk-cddvd-drives-too-slow-while-copying/

Also, one of the things that slows down PCs is unnecessary processes
running in the background. Some of these processes use considerably more
resources/memory than others. Your best bet is to use Google and these
sites to gather information as to what they are and how best to disable
them:

http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php#THE_PROGRAMS

http://www.sysinfo.org/startupinfo.html

and

http://www.answersthatwork.com (and click on the Task List button)

Use XP's MSCONFIG to see what is running each time you boot up. Task
Manager (Control + Alt + Delete) will give you information as to which
processes are currently running. Jot down the programs and research them
using the sites above.

Note that even if you are running few programs, it's still possible that
the programs you *are* running are using more memory than your system
can comfortably handle (e.g., video editing, Virtual PC, etc.), thus
resulting in relying far too much on your page file. You can determine
if you have enough RAM by using either of the following two methods:

1. When you are in Task Manager/Performance, look in the lower left-hand
corner. You should see three figures under Commit Charge (K): Total,
Limit, and Peak. What are they? Record these figures shortly after a
reboot and then again, after you have been using the PC for a while and
you notice sluggishness.

I know you have 512 MB of RAM. If your Total or Peak figures exceed
the amount of RAM you have, there is a good chance you are relying too
much on the page file, which will certainly cause sluggishness.

2. Or, for a more accurate assessment, you may run Page File Monitor for
Windows XP:

http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_pagefilemon.htm
 
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Malke

Blair wrote:
Thank you for your helpful reply. I did not mention it on my message but I
already carry out checks using the following;
AVG,Defender,AVG Anti Rootkit, Spybot, AD Aware,A-squared and Smitfraud
I would have thought that this was enough

Probably it is enough and I wouldn't have bothered to include that advice if
you had thought to tell us what you'd already done to troubleshoot.

So look at the other links I gave you and read the suggestions the others
gave you. Without knowing anything more about your computer and what you've
already tried, I don't have more suggestions for you.

Malke
 
B

bm

Daave said:
Assuming your problem is not malware related, consider the following:

It's possible a read error caused your hard drive access to change from
Ultra DMA to PIO mode, reset it:

http://technize.com/2007/08/02/is-your-hard-disk-cddvd-drives-too-slow-while-copying/

Also, one of the things that slows down PCs is unnecessary processes
running in the background. Some of these processes use considerably more
resources/memory than others. Your best bet is to use Google and these
sites to gather information as to what they are and how best to disable
them:

http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php#THE_PROGRAMS

http://www.sysinfo.org/startupinfo.html

and

http://www.answersthatwork.com (and click on the Task List button)

Use XP's MSCONFIG to see what is running each time you boot up. Task
Manager (Control + Alt + Delete) will give you information as to which
processes are currently running. Jot down the programs and research them
using the sites above.

Note that even if you are running few programs, it's still possible that
the programs you *are* running are using more memory than your system can
comfortably handle (e.g., video editing, Virtual PC, etc.), thus resulting
in relying far too much on your page file. You can determine if you have
enough RAM by using either of the following two methods:

1. When you are in Task Manager/Performance, look in the lower left-hand
corner. You should see three figures under Commit Charge (K): Total,
Limit, and Peak. What are they? Record these figures shortly after a
reboot and then again, after you have been using the PC for a while and
you notice sluggishness.

I know you have 512 MB of RAM. If your Total or Peak figures exceed
the amount of RAM you have, there is a good chance you are relying too
much on the page file, which will certainly cause sluggishness.

2. Or, for a more accurate assessment, you may run Page File Monitor for
Windows XP:

http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_pagefilemon.htm Thanks for your help.
I will try your suggestions
Blair
 
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Daave

bm said:
I have a desktop which performs reasonably well with 512 MB RAM and
recently I upgraded my laptop to have the same 512 MB of RAM but the
performance is infinitely slower on my laptop
What steps can I take to improve this performance>
I do a monthly clean up and a CHKDSK on both systems
All my emails is carried out on the desktop and the backup of my data
from the desktop is kept on the laptop.
Any suggestions please

More ideas...

Are you sure you have the right type of RAM? Is it seated properly in
the motherboard slot(s)? How much RAM do you see Windows using in the
General tab of System Properties (right-click My Computer and select
Properties)?

In some cases, there is a BIOS setting (in Dells, for instance) that
limits the amount of RAM to 256 MB. For more info, see Table 6-2:

http://support.ap.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/pe1750/en/sm/setup.htm
 
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Jim

bm said:
I have a desktop which performs reasonably well with 512 MB RAM and
recently I upgraded my laptop to have the same 512 MB of RAM but the
performance is infinitely slower on my laptop
What steps can I take to improve this performance>
I do a monthly clean up and a CHKDSK on both systems
All my emails is carried out on the desktop and the backup of my data from
the desktop is kept on the laptop.
Any suggestions please
Blair
In addition to the good advice about malware, etc., a laptop is slower than
a desktop because it doesn't have as fast a processor. and the disks run at
4200 rpm instead of the faster 7200 rpm disks.
Jim
 
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bm

Daave said:
More ideas...

Are you sure you have the right type of RAM? Is it seated properly in the
motherboard slot(s)? How much RAM do you see Windows using in the General
tab of System Properties (right-click My Computer and select Properties)?

In some cases, there is a BIOS setting (in Dells, for instance) that
limits the amount of RAM to 256 MB. For more info, see Table 6-2:

http://support.ap.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/pe1750/en/sm/setup.htm
I checked and the RAM shown is 512MB

Blair
 

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