Slow Start (Boot Log)

[Don]

I have a pretty standard computer, NForce 2 chipset. It was starting and
running very slowly so I reinstalled XP Pro original (clean) and updated it
using windows update. It's still starting slowly and running slowly. Ex.
it sometimes takes 10 secs for the start menu to appear after selecting it.
There isn't allot of processor work going on, nor disk activity.

What happens during boot is this, it loads some drivers and then it doesn't
load drivers over and over:

Loaded driver fltmgr.sys
Loaded driver sr.sys
Loaded driver KSecDD.sys
Loaded driver Ntfs.sys
Loaded driver NDIS.sys
Loaded driver nv_agp.sys
Loaded driver Mup.sys
Did not load driver ACPI Uniprocessor PC
Did not load driver Audio Codecs
Did not load driver Legacy Audio Drivers
Did not load driver Media Control Devices
Did not load driver Legacy Video Capture Devices
Did not load driver Video Codecs
Did not load driver WAN Miniport (L2TP)
Did not load driver WAN Miniport (IP)
Did not load driver WAN Miniport (PPPOE)
Did not load driver WAN Miniport (PPTP)
Did not load driver Packet Scheduler Miniport
Did not load driver Packet Scheduler Miniport
Did not load driver Direct Parallel
Did not load driver Audio Codecs


this continues for about 100 lines and then it will load 2 or three items,
then contine not loading. Can anybody help me with this?

 

[DL]

Clean install?
You installed mobo chipset and other hw drivers from manu sites and NOT
winupdate?
You installed AV and malaware apps?

 

[Don]

By "Clean install" i meant format and installed VS just reinstall.
Motherboard Drivers were installed from the original disk, then updated from
manufactuers (MSI) website.
Then installed SP1. SP2, and updates, drivers from Windows Updates.
Then installed the remaining hardware drivers from manufacturers.
Then installed AVG AV.

haven't gotten as far as Defender or Java, or flash...

TIA for any advice you have.

 

[Rock]

I have a pretty standard computer, NForce 2 chipset. It was starting and
running very slowly so I reinstalled XP Pro original (clean) and updated it
using windows update. It's still starting slowly and running slowly. Ex.
it sometimes takes 10 secs for the start menu to appear after selecting it.
There isn't allot of processor work going on, nor disk activity.

What happens during boot is this, it loads some drivers and then it
doesn't load drivers over and over:

Loaded driver fltmgr.sys
Loaded driver sr.sys
Loaded driver KSecDD.sys
Loaded driver Ntfs.sys
Loaded driver NDIS.sys
Loaded driver nv_agp.sys
Loaded driver Mup.sys
Did not load driver ACPI Uniprocessor PC
Did not load driver Audio Codecs
Did not load driver Legacy Audio Drivers
Did not load driver Media Control Devices
Did not load driver Legacy Video Capture Devices
Did not load driver Video Codecs
Did not load driver WAN Miniport (L2TP)
Did not load driver WAN Miniport (IP)
Did not load driver WAN Miniport (PPPOE)
Did not load driver WAN Miniport (PPTP)
Did not load driver Packet Scheduler Miniport
Did not load driver Packet Scheduler Miniport
Did not load driver Direct Parallel
Did not load driver Audio Codecs


this continues for about 100 lines and then it will load 2 or three items,
then contine not loading. Can anybody help me with this?

Is the drive in DMA or PIO mode? Have you run a test on the memory and
drive?

 

[Don]

It is running in PIO mode according to Device Manager. Transfer Mode is set
to DMA if available. www.seagate.com/support/disc/specs/ata/st3200826a.html
ST-3200826A (Barracuda 7200.8 PATA 200, Ultra ATA/100). The MS driver is
from July 2001 Version 5.1.2535.0. BIOS Setup reports a 200GB drive. My
Computer reports the largest partition as 117GB.

CHKDSK Reports the volume is Clean. Hardware memory check reports no
problems.

 

[Rock]

It is running in PIO mode according to Device Manager. Transfer Mode is
set
to DMA if available.
www.seagate.com/support/disc/specs/ata/st3200826a.html
ST-3200826A (Barracuda 7200.8 PATA 200, Ultra ATA/100). The MS driver is
from July 2001 Version 5.1.2535.0. BIOS Setup reports a 200GB drive. My
Computer reports the largest partition as 117GB.

CHKDSK Reports the volume is Clean. Hardware memory check reports no
problems.

PIO mode will slow it down. It should be running in DMA.

 

[Don]

yes i agree. but windows doesn't seem to agree!

PIO mode will slow it down. It should be running in DMA.

 

[miss-information]

Did you install the motherboard / chipset drivers?

mi

 

[Rock]

yes i agree. but windows doesn't seem to agree!

See if this might help.
www.michna.com/kb/WxDMA.htm

 

[DL]

You stated earlier that bios reports 200gb, but largest partion 117gb ?
Are you saying you have free space (Disk Management) or that the win
installation did'nt recognise the full capacity?

Not sure about Nforce 2 but did this feature Active Armor (NVidea Firewall)?

 

[Pop`]

Caveat: The Bootlog only shows results, NOT what SHOULD have happened. The
fact that it did or did not load something can be completely irrelevant to
whether it's needed to fun or not in that profile. When you're looking at
logs, only "ERROR" is meaningfuly.
One of the many autostart monitors available would give much more
reliable information.
Also, checking Even Viewer might reveal something too.

Ten seconds for the start menu to appear isn't "bad" if it's immediately
after the bootup, but it mighy mean something if it's that way all the time.
You should include more details for a better targetted response. In
particular, how slow is "slow"? And exactly what is slow? And when? And
speed, RAM, free space, etc etc..

HTH
Pop`

 

[Don]

Thanks to everyone who replied especially Rock for pointing me to the HD
problem. I haven't looked at PIO / DMA since Win 98!

I ended up uninstalling SP2, and doing a system restore back to XP Original
Install, that got the drive to work in DMA mode, and gave pathnames to all
the bootlog entries. Now ntbl is only about 100 lines long instead of 2000
or so.

 

[Don]

Thanks to everyone who replied especially Rock for pointing me to the HD
problem. I haven't looked at PIO / DMA since Win 98!

I ended up uninstalling SP2, and doing a system restore back to XP Original
Install, that got the drive to work in DMA mode, and gave pathnames to all
the bootlog entries. Now ntbl is only about 100 lines long instead of 2000
or so.

 

[Rock]

Thanks to everyone who replied especially Rock for pointing me to the HD
problem. I haven't looked at PIO / DMA since Win 98!

I ended up uninstalling SP2, and doing a system restore back to XP
Original Install, that got the drive to work in DMA mode, and gave
pathnames to all the bootlog entries. Now ntbl is only about 100 lines
long instead of 2000 or so.

Great Don, I'm glad you got it working and thanks for posting back.