Single Document Interface

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Tyrone Blackburn

Is there anyway to switch PowerPoint out of multiple document interface
(MDI) mode and into single document interface (SDI)? With just about any
other Office application (e.g., Excel, Publisher, Access, Visio, FrontPage)
a new apparent instance of a the application can be started that allows each
document to appear its own version of the application (i.e., SDI), versus
having all the documents appear in the same instance of a application (MDI).
However, with PowerPoint there only appears to be a MDI and absolutely no
way to open up new instances of the application.

Help?

Tye.
 
H

Hans Hofmann

Is there anyway to switch PowerPoint out of multiple document interface
(MDI) mode and into single document interface (SDI)? With just about any
other Office application (e.g., Excel, Publisher, Access, Visio, FrontPage)
a new apparent instance of a the application can be started that allows each
document to appear its own version of the application (i.e., SDI), versus
having all the documents appear in the same instance of a application (MDI).
However, with PowerPoint there only appears to be a MDI and absolutely no
way to open up new instances of the application.
PowerPoint is a single instance application! But this has nothing in
common with MDI or SDI. All office applications have MDI, one instance
can open mutiple documents.
You have a switch in Options | View | Window in Taskbar (or some thing
like that, starting from 2002) to enable/disable mutiple window button
in taskbar?
Hope this helps?


Gruß HW


WebSite Powerpoint interaktiv: www.lemitec.de/ppt
PowerPoint-Anwendertage im Oktober 2004 in Fulda:
http://www.ppt-user.de/ppt-at-2004/default.htm
Mail Reply: remove devnull :-(
 
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Tyrone Blackburn

Hans,

Unfortantely, correcting my terminology with regard to "instances" did
nothing to help me solve the problem of obtaining seperate windows for
seperate PowerPoint documents. So I'll drop the use of the word "instance"
and will use the following definitions for MDI and SDI:

Single Document Interface (SDI): each document occupies its own window
Multiple Document Interface (MDI): each document is a separate windows
within the parent application

Given those definitions, does PowerPoint support a SDI mode?

Most of the MS Office suite applications support MDI and in fact this is the
way they all used to work out of the box. However, customers found the MDI
interface cumbersome, especially with Word. Starting with Word 2000,
Microsoft began introducing a "bastardized" version of SDI for some of its
Office applications. Now, by default in Word, every time you open a new
document, the document receives its own window (i.e., SDI mode). Other
Office Applications still open seperate documents in windows within the
application (i.e., MDI mode). However, with Excel, Publisher, Access,
Visio, and FrontPage you can force them to open seperate documents in
separate windows (i.e., a bastardized SDI mode). I have found no way to
open seperate PowerPoint documents in separate windows. PowerPoint
documents ALWAYS appear as windows within the PowerPoint application. Is
there a way to display separate PowerPoint documents in separate windows?

Microsoft has a really bad habit of referring to its options to enable
multiple window buttons in the taskbar as switching between MDI and SDI.
They are the only ones who use this definition and it is not what I mean. I
really don't care whether each document gets its own button. I care that
each document gets its own window. Interestingly, and rather confusingly,
toggling this choice (Options | View | Window in Taskbar) in Word does
switch it between MDI and SDI. However, it is the only Office application
that works this way. If you want Excel, Publisher, Access, Visio, or
FrontPage to have separate windows for each document, you have to take other
steps. Is there a way to switch PowerPoint from MDI to SDI mode such that
separate PowerPoint documents each have their own separate windows?

Microsoft's documentation indicates the command-line switch "/c" can be used
for opening new instances (oh, I used the "i" word) of PowerPoint, which
would theoretically give a separate window for each instance of PowerPoint,
thus giving each PowerPoint document its own window and effectively
providing an SDI mode. However, the "/c" command-line switch doesn't appear
to be working that way on my computer - it just opens PowerPoint in online
collaboration mode (e.g., with NetMeeting). Is there a way to start
separate instances of PowerPoint such that each PowerPoint document had its
own window?

Summary: I can get separate windows on my desktop for seperate documents in
any MS Office application with the exception of PowerPoint. Is there a way
to make PowerPoint work like the rest of the MS Office applications when it
comes to handling document windows?
 
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Hans Hofmann

On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 08:11:29 -0700, "Tyrone Blackburn"

Tyrone,
Unfortantely, correcting my terminology with regard to "instances" did
nothing to help me solve the problem of obtaining seperate windows for
seperate PowerPoint documents. So I'll drop the use of the word "instance"
and will use the following definitions for MDI and SDI:

I do not realy understand your problem?
Fact is: Powerpoint is per design a single instance application!
If you could switch to SDI (how ever) you could open only ONE document
per machine. Excel/Word are mutiple instance applications: look at
Task Manager you can see mutilple excels/words but only one powerpoint
prozess. No chance to have more then one ppt window (without virtual
pc ;-)




Gruß HW


WebSite Powerpoint interaktiv: www.lemitec.de/ppt
PowerPoint-Anwendertage im Oktober 2004 in Fulda:
http://www.ppt-user.de/ppt-at-2004/default.htm
Mail Reply: remove devnull :-(
 
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Steve Rindsberg

I'm afraid that if you want PowerPoint to behave like Excel and Word, you can't
make it do so.

It will run one instance of itself, period. Short of running multiple
different versions, that's it.


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PPTools: www.pptools.com
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Tyrone Blackburn

You are confirming what I highly suspected and what Hans has tried to tell
me. This is disappointing. Not unexpected from MS, but still
disappointing. I find the inconsistencies in implemention between the
Office applications to be highly frustrating (on this subject as well as at
least a half dozen more). It would be nice if MS produced a consistent
product. With regards to document interfaces Word acts one way with regards
to SDI/MDI (close to what I would expect), most other office applications
want to have MDI but can be fulled into looking like SDI, Outook can only
have a SDI, and Powerpoint only MDI. Oh well, guess they need something to
change in Office 12.

Thank you,

Tye.
 

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