Sharing Files between Domain and Workgroup

G

Guest

I have the same problem that I see other have of trying to use a work laptop
(on a domain) with a home desktop (on a workgroup). I have tried everything
I have read here, but so far no success. My current status is this:
1. The laptop cannot see the desktop at all. I have tried using the command
prompt even and it just cannot see it.
2. The desktop can see the laptop but when I try to access it, it just says
that access is denied. I am not even prompted for a login or password.

- I have XP Pro SP2 on both.
- The home desktop does not have to be on a workgroup (However, I cannot
put it on the same domain as my work laptop for security reasons). Also, I
cannot make the workgroup name the same as the domain name because the domain
name is too long. Apparently the workgroup name is limited in size.
- This is done through a Linksys router (desktop using a LAN, laptop using
a Wireless connection).
- The guest account is activated on both machines
- I have to use Advanced File Sharing on the laptop (XP Pro + domain). I
have tried both Advanced and Simple on the desktop. The only difference is
that with Advanced the desktop can no longer see the laptop at all.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
 
C

Chuck

I have the same problem that I see other have of trying to use a work laptop
(on a domain) with a home desktop (on a workgroup). I have tried everything
I have read here, but so far no success. My current status is this:
1. The laptop cannot see the desktop at all. I have tried using the command
prompt even and it just cannot see it.
2. The desktop can see the laptop but when I try to access it, it just says
that access is denied. I am not even prompted for a login or password.

- I have XP Pro SP2 on both.
- The home desktop does not have to be on a workgroup (However, I cannot
put it on the same domain as my work laptop for security reasons). Also, I
cannot make the workgroup name the same as the domain name because the domain
name is too long. Apparently the workgroup name is limited in size.
- This is done through a Linksys router (desktop using a LAN, laptop using
a Wireless connection).
- The guest account is activated on both machines
- I have to use Advanced File Sharing on the laptop (XP Pro + domain). I
have tried both Advanced and Simple on the desktop. The only difference is
that with Advanced the desktop can no longer see the laptop at all.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

You can make things work without using a domain. The laptop will work fine
using workgroup authentication to connect to the desktop.

A problem like "can see other computer but get access denied..." could be
several things.
- Name resolution problem.
- Browser problem (I'm not talking about Internet Explorer here).
- Lack of authentication to access anonymously.

Start by providing ipconfig information for each computer.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, make sure that Format - Word Wrap is
NOT checked!, copy and paste entire contents into your next post.

Take a look at the output from "ipconfig /all" for both computers. It will
probably look similar to this example:

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : My_Computer
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Peer-Peer

Node type Peer-Peer is a problem. That means My_Computer needs a WINS server to
resolve names. No WINS server, no name resolution. Any other value for Node
Type is OK.

Here are Microsoft article discussing node types:
<http://support.microsoft.com/?id=314053>
<http://support.microsoft.com/?id=160177>

If you need to correct this, you'll need to run the Registry Editor on the
computer with the problem.

You need to find this key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\NetBT\Parameters]
and delete these two values (which ever is there):
NodeType
DhcpNodeType

After you delete the two values, reboot the computer. After the reboot, rerun
IPConfig and re examine the results.

The Registry Editor is a scary tool, but it's pretty simple once you get used to
it. Here are a couple articles that might help:
<http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/...home/using/productdoc/en/tools_regeditors.asp>
<http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/registry>

Just remember to backup the key (create a registry patch) for:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\NetBT\Parameters]
before deleting the values.

From the Annoyances article:
You can create a Registry patch by opening the Registry Editor, selecting a
branch, and choosing Export from the File menu. Then, specify a filename, and
press OK. You can then view the Registry patch file by opening it in Notepad
(right-click on it and select Edit). Again, just double-click on a Registry
patch file (or use Import in the Registry Editor's File menu) to apply it to the
registry.

The Microsoft Browstat program will show us what browsers you have in your
domain / workgroup, at any time.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305

You can download Browstat from either:
<http://www.dynawell.com/reskit/microsoft/win2000/browstat.zip>
<http://rescomp.stanford.edu/staff/manual/rcc/tools/browstat.zip>

Browstat is very small (40K), and needs no install. Just unzip the downloaded
file, copy browstat.exe to any folder in the Path, and run it from a command
window, by "browstat status". Make sure all computers give the same result.

For more information about the browser subsystem (very intricate), see:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188001
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/deploy/prodspecs/ntbrowse.mspx>

Provide browstat information for each computer.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "browstat status >c:\browstat.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\browstat.txt in Notepad, make sure that Format - Word Wrap is
NOT checked!, copy and paste into your next post.

Also, look at registry key [HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa], value
restrictanonymous, on both computers.
<http://www.microsoft.com/windows200...2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/regentry/46688.asp>
<http://www.jsifaq.com/subf/tip2600/rh2625.htm>
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=246261
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=296403

The above articles refer to Windows 2000. Remember WinXP is NT V5.1, and Win2K
is NT V5.0.

Have you used the Registry Editor before? If not, it's a scary tool, but it's
pretty simple once you get used to it. Here are a couple articles that might
help:
<http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/...home/using/productdoc/en/tools_regeditors.asp>
<http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/registry>

Just remember to backup the key (create a registry patch) for
[HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa] before making any changes, if
appropriate.
 
G

Guest

Chuck, thanks for responding. I followed all of the steps as best I could.
Portions of the articles were definitely over my head, but I definitely
followed how to get all the information you requested. I have some
observations but I don't know enough to draw any conclusions:
- Node Type is not "Peer-to-Peer" on either machine. The laptop (domain
pc) is "Hybrid" and the Desktop (workgroup pc) is "Unknown".
- Master Name could not be determined on the laptop (domain pc)
- restrictanonymous is set to "0" on both machines

Here are the ipconfig and browstat data you suggested I find:

--> Laptop (domain pc) ipconfig:
**************************
Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : BOKPC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : esi-group-na.com Node Type . .
.. . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . .
.. . . : esi-group-na.com
waldlk01.mi.comcast.netEthernet adapter Local Area Connection: Media
State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Description . . . . .
.. . . . . . : Broadcom 570x Gigabit Integrated Controller Physical
Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-1F-9F-A0-25Ethernet adapter Wireless Network
Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
waldlk01.mi.comcast.net Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Dell
Wireless WLAN 1350 WLAN Mini-PCI Card Physical Address. . . . . . . .
.. : 00-90-96-AD-7F-EB Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . .
.. . : 192.168.1.105 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DHCP Server . .
.. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :
68.60.32.6 68.60.32.5 Lease
Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, November 22, 2004 10:58:07 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:58:07 PM
__________________________


--> Desktop (workgroup pc) ipconfig:
**************************
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : home
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : waldlk01.mi.comcast.net

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : waldlk01.mi.comcast.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX PCI 10/100 Fast
Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-10-B5-70-0E-9A
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.60.32.6
68.60.32.5
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, November 22, 2004
10:58:37 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, November 23, 2004
10:58:37 PM
__________________________


--> Laptop (domain pc) browstat:
**************************
Status for domain ESI-GROUP-NA on transport \Device\NwlnkNb
Browsing is active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Using \\BOKPC
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master BOKPC
\\BOKPC
There are 1 servers in domain ESI-GROUP-NA on transport \Device\NwlnkNb
There are 1 domains in domain ESI-GROUP-NA on transport \Device\NwlnkNb


Status for domain ESI-GROUP-NA on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{182FBD19-F0E8-4399-A700-E29B992BF94B}
Browsing is NOT active on domain.
Master browser name is held by: BOKPC
Master browser is running build 2600


Status for domain ESI-GROUP-NA on transport \Device\NwlnkIpx
Browsing is active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Using \\BOKPC
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master BOKPC
\\BOKPC
Unable to retrieve server list from BOKPC: 1231
__________________________


--> Desktop (workgropu pc) browstat:
**************************
Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{1F4D5228-005D-4E51-BEDD-AE8D5E8AD46F}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: HOME
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master HOME
\\HOME
There are 1 servers in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{1F4D5228-005D-4E51-BEDD-AE8D5E8AD46F}
There are 2 domains in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{1F4D5228-005D-4E51-BEDD-AE8D5E8AD46F}
__________________________
 
C

Chuck

Chuck, thanks for responding. I followed all of the steps as best I could.
Portions of the articles were definitely over my head, but I definitely
followed how to get all the information you requested. I have some
observations but I don't know enough to draw any conclusions:
- Node Type is not "Peer-to-Peer" on either machine. The laptop (domain
pc) is "Hybrid" and the Desktop (workgroup pc) is "Unknown".
- Master Name could not be determined on the laptop (domain pc)
- restrictanonymous is set to "0" on both machines

Here are the ipconfig and browstat data you suggested I find:

<SNIP>

OK, that's a good start.

Is BOKPC running IPX because of the work environment? If you don't need IPX at
work, then you need to clean the laptop up. Start by un installing unnecessary
components, from the list of items under Local Area Connection Properties. You
only need the following items in the list:
Client for Microsoft Networks
File and Printer Sharing For Microsoft Networks
QoS Packet Scheduler (optional)
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)

Then enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (Local Area Connection - Properties - TCP/IP -
Properties - Advanced - WINS) on each computer.

If you do remove IPX etc from BOKPC, power both computers off. Then start the
desktop computer, and login to it. Finally, start the laptop. Run new
"browstat status" for both computers, and post them.

If BOKPC needs IPX/SPX for work, then you'll have to install it on the desktop.
That will be another task.
 
G

Guest

Chuck,

1. My desktop (workgroup pc) has the Local Area Connection Properties that
you suggested:
Client for Microsoft Networks
File and Printer Sharing For Microsoft Networks
QoS Packet Scheduler (optional)
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)

2. My Laptop (domain pc) is cleaned up. It now has only those four items
above plus one more:
Net Firewall Service

3. Both computers already had NetBIOS Over TCP/IP enabled.

4. I ran the browstat again. The desktop (workgroup pc) didn't appear to
change. The laptop (domain pc) browstat now only has 1 section (instead of
3) but it still says that "Browsing is NOT active on domain." The details
are below.

--> Laptop (domain pc) browstat:
**************************
Status for domain ESI-GROUP-NA on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{182FBD19-F0E8-4399-A700-E29B992BF94B}
Browsing is NOT active on domain.
Master browser name is held by: BOKPC
Master browser is running build 2600
__________________________


--> Desktop (workgropu pc) browstat:
**************************
Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{1F4D5228-005D-4E51-BEDD-AE8D5E8AD46F}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: HOME
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master HOME
\\HOME
There are 1 servers in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{1F4D5228-005D-4E51-BEDD-AE8D5E8AD46F}
There are 2 domains in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{1F4D5228-005D-4E51-BEDD-AE8D5E8AD46F}
__________________________

5. The laptop (domain pc) still cannot see the desktop (workgroup pc). The
desktop (workgroup pc) can see the laptop, but it cannot connect and I still
am not prompted to login. This has not changed, although I have a feeling
you didn't expect to have any differences.

Thanks again for helping. What do you think of what you see now?
 
C

Chuck

Chuck,

1. My desktop (workgroup pc) has the Local Area Connection Properties that
you suggested:
Client for Microsoft Networks
File and Printer Sharing For Microsoft Networks
QoS Packet Scheduler (optional)
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)

2. My Laptop (domain pc) is cleaned up. It now has only those four items
above plus one more:
Net Firewall Service

3. Both computers already had NetBIOS Over TCP/IP enabled.

4. I ran the browstat again. The desktop (workgroup pc) didn't appear to
change. The laptop (domain pc) browstat now only has 1 section (instead of
3) but it still says that "Browsing is NOT active on domain." The details
are below.

--> Laptop (domain pc) browstat:
**************************
Status for domain ESI-GROUP-NA on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{182FBD19-F0E8-4399-A700-E29B992BF94B}
Browsing is NOT active on domain.
Master browser name is held by: BOKPC
Master browser is running build 2600
__________________________


--> Desktop (workgropu pc) browstat:
**************************
Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{1F4D5228-005D-4E51-BEDD-AE8D5E8AD46F}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: HOME
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master HOME
\\HOME
There are 1 servers in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{1F4D5228-005D-4E51-BEDD-AE8D5E8AD46F}
There are 2 domains in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{1F4D5228-005D-4E51-BEDD-AE8D5E8AD46F}
__________________________

5. The laptop (domain pc) still cannot see the desktop (workgroup pc). The
desktop (workgroup pc) can see the laptop, but it cannot connect and I still
am not prompted to login. This has not changed, although I have a feeling
you didn't expect to have any differences.

Thanks again for helping. What do you think of what you see now?

I have to wonder about the Net Firewall Service on the laptop. I have not seen
that entry on any computers with ICF (XP pre-SP2) or WF (SP2). Any idea what
that is?

If that doesn't help, let's examine the symptoms more completely. Take the
following code (everything inside the "#####"). (Did I get the names and ip
addresses in FullTargets right)?

Copy the code, precisely as it is keyed, into Notepad. Ensure that Format -
Word Wrap is not checked.
Save the file as "cdiag.cmd", as type "All Files", into the root folder "C:\".
Run it by Start - Run - "c:\cdiag".
Wait patiently.
When Notepad opens up displaying c:\cdiag.txt, first check Format and ensure
that Word Wrap is NOT checked! Then, copy the entire contents (Ctrl-A Ctrl-C)
and paste (Ctrl-V) into your next post.

Do this from both computers, please.

#####

@echo off
set FullTargets=BOKPC 192.168.1.105 home 192.168.1.104
set PingTargets=127.0.0.1 192.168.1.1
Set Version=V1.05
@echo CDiagnosis %Version% >c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Start diagnosis for %computername% (Targets %FullTargets%) >>c:\cdiag.txt
for %%a in (%FullTargets% %PingTargets%) do (
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Target %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "ping %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
ping %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "net view %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
net view %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
)
@echo End diagnosis for %computername% >>c:\cdiag.txt
notepad c:\cdiag.txt
:EOF

#####
 
G

Guest

Chuck,

Sorry I was missing for a while. Here are the cdiags from my laptop and my
pc, between the "#######". Thanks again.

####### DESKTOP #######
CDiagnosis V1.05
Start diagnosis for HOME (Targets BOKPC 192.168.1.105 home 192.168.1.104)

Target BOKPC

"ping BOKPC"



Pinging BOKPC [192.168.1.105] with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.105:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 1ms


"net view BOKPC"

Shared resources at BOKPC

Brian O'Keefe Computer

Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My_Music Disk
Printer2 Print Fiery X3e 31C-M PCL v2.0
Printer3 Print Creates Adobe PDF
Printer4 Print ActiveTouch Document Loader
SharedDocs Disk
test_for_MGB-database files Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.1.105

"ping 192.168.1.105"



Pinging 192.168.1.105 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.105:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 11ms, Average = 3ms


"net view 192.168.1.105"

Shared resources at 192.168.1.105

Brian O'Keefe Computer

Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My_Music Disk
Printer2 Print Fiery X3e 31C-M PCL v2.0
Printer3 Print Creates Adobe PDF
Printer4 Print ActiveTouch Document Loader
SharedDocs Disk
test_for_MGB-database files Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target home

"ping home"



Pinging home [192.168.1.104] with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.104:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"net view home"

Shared resources at home



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My_Music Disk
ojT_ENU_xp1305 Disk
Printer Print HP OfficeJet T Series Printer
Printer2 Print HP OfficeJet T Series Fax
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.1.104

"ping 192.168.1.104"



Pinging 192.168.1.104 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.104:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"net view 192.168.1.104"

Shared resources at 192.168.1.104



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My_Music Disk
ojT_ENU_xp1305 Disk
Printer Print HP OfficeJet T Series Printer
Printer2 Print HP OfficeJet T Series Fax
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 127.0.0.1

"ping 127.0.0.1"



Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"net view 127.0.0.1"

Shared resources at 127.0.0.1



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My_Music Disk
ojT_ENU_xp1305 Disk
Printer Print HP OfficeJet T Series Printer
Printer2 Print HP OfficeJet T Series Fax
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.1.1

"ping 192.168.1.1"



Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 0ms


"net view 192.168.1.1"

End diagnosis for HOME
#####################


####### LAPTOP #######
CDiagnosis V1.05
Start diagnosis for BOKPC (Targets BOKPC 192.168.1.105 home 192.168.1.104)

Target BOKPC

"ping BOKPC"


Pinging BOKPC.esi-group-na.com [192.168.1.105] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.105:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

"net view BOKPC"

Shared resources at BOKPC

Brian O'Keefe Computer

Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My_Music Disk
Printer2 Print Fiery X3e 31C-M PCL v2.0
Printer3 Print Creates Adobe PDF
Printer4 Print ActiveTouch Document Loader
SharedDocs Disk
test_for_MGB-database files Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.1.105

"ping 192.168.1.105"


Pinging 192.168.1.105 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.105:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

"net view 192.168.1.105"

Shared resources at 192.168.1.105

Brian O'Keefe Computer

Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My_Music Disk
Printer2 Print Fiery X3e 31C-M PCL v2.0
Printer3 Print Creates Adobe PDF
Printer4 Print ActiveTouch Document Loader
SharedDocs Disk
test_for_MGB-database files Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target home

"ping home"


Pinging home.esi-group-na.com [207.148.205.242] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 207.148.205.242:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

"net view home"

Shared resources at home



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My_Music Disk
ojT_ENU_xp1305 Disk
Printer Print HP OfficeJet T Series Printer
Printer2 Print HP OfficeJet T Series Fax
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.1.104

"ping 192.168.1.104"


Pinging 192.168.1.104 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.104:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 0ms

"net view 192.168.1.104"

Shared resources at 192.168.1.104



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My_Music Disk
ojT_ENU_xp1305 Disk
Printer Print HP OfficeJet T Series Printer
Printer2 Print HP OfficeJet T Series Fax
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 127.0.0.1

"ping 127.0.0.1"


Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

"net view 127.0.0.1"

Shared resources at 127.0.0.1

Brian O'Keefe Computer

Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My_Music Disk
Printer2 Print Fiery X3e 31C-M PCL v2.0
Printer3 Print Creates Adobe PDF
Printer4 Print ActiveTouch Document Loader
SharedDocs Disk
test_for_MGB-database files Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.1.1

"ping 192.168.1.1"


Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 1ms

"net view 192.168.1.1"

End diagnosis for BOKPC
####################
 
G

Guest

Chuck,

Sorry I was MIA for the last week. Below are the cdiag's for both desktop
(workgroup pc) and laptop (domain pc). Also, I unchecked the Net Firewall
Service in the Network Connection settings. I don't know if I need this, but
I figured if we can at least get things working in one configuration, then if
I have to enable that setting again at least we'll know a starting point.
See the cdiag settings below:

###### DESKTOP ######
CDiagnosis V1.05
Start diagnosis for HOME (Targets BOKPC 192.168.1.105 home 192.168.1.104)

Target BOKPC

"ping BOKPC"



Pinging BOKPC [192.168.1.105] with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.105:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 1ms


"net view BOKPC"

Shared resources at BOKPC

Brian O'Keefe Computer

Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My_Music Disk
Printer2 Print Fiery X3e 31C-M PCL v2.0
Printer3 Print Creates Adobe PDF
Printer4 Print ActiveTouch Document Loader
SharedDocs Disk
test_for_MGB-database files Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.1.105

"ping 192.168.1.105"



Pinging 192.168.1.105 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.105:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 11ms, Average = 3ms


"net view 192.168.1.105"

Shared resources at 192.168.1.105

Brian O'Keefe Computer

Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My_Music Disk
Printer2 Print Fiery X3e 31C-M PCL v2.0
Printer3 Print Creates Adobe PDF
Printer4 Print ActiveTouch Document Loader
SharedDocs Disk
test_for_MGB-database files Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target home

"ping home"



Pinging home [192.168.1.104] with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.104:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"net view home"

Shared resources at home



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My_Music Disk
ojT_ENU_xp1305 Disk
Printer Print HP OfficeJet T Series Printer
Printer2 Print HP OfficeJet T Series Fax
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.1.104

"ping 192.168.1.104"



Pinging 192.168.1.104 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.104:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"net view 192.168.1.104"

Shared resources at 192.168.1.104



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My_Music Disk
ojT_ENU_xp1305 Disk
Printer Print HP OfficeJet T Series Printer
Printer2 Print HP OfficeJet T Series Fax
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 127.0.0.1

"ping 127.0.0.1"



Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"net view 127.0.0.1"

Shared resources at 127.0.0.1



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My_Music Disk
ojT_ENU_xp1305 Disk
Printer Print HP OfficeJet T Series Printer
Printer2 Print HP OfficeJet T Series Fax
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.1.1

"ping 192.168.1.1"



Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 0ms


"net view 192.168.1.1"

End diagnosis for HOME
###################

###### LAPTOP ######
CDiagnosis V1.05
Start diagnosis for BOKPC (Targets BOKPC 192.168.1.105 home 192.168.1.104)

Target BOKPC

"ping BOKPC"


Pinging BOKPC.esi-group-na.com [192.168.1.105] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.105:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

"net view BOKPC"

Shared resources at BOKPC

Brian O'Keefe Computer

Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My_Music Disk
Printer2 Print Fiery X3e 31C-M PCL v2.0
Printer3 Print Creates Adobe PDF
Printer4 Print ActiveTouch Document Loader
SharedDocs Disk
test_for_MGB-database files Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.1.105

"ping 192.168.1.105"


Pinging 192.168.1.105 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.105:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

"net view 192.168.1.105"

Shared resources at 192.168.1.105

Brian O'Keefe Computer

Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My_Music Disk
Printer2 Print Fiery X3e 31C-M PCL v2.0
Printer3 Print Creates Adobe PDF
Printer4 Print ActiveTouch Document Loader
SharedDocs Disk
test_for_MGB-database files Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target home

"ping home"


Pinging home.esi-group-na.com [207.148.205.242] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 207.148.205.242:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

"net view home"

Shared resources at home



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My_Music Disk
ojT_ENU_xp1305 Disk
Printer Print HP OfficeJet T Series Printer
Printer2 Print HP OfficeJet T Series Fax
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.1.104

"ping 192.168.1.104"


Pinging 192.168.1.104 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.104:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 0ms

"net view 192.168.1.104"

Shared resources at 192.168.1.104



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My_Music Disk
ojT_ENU_xp1305 Disk
Printer Print HP OfficeJet T Series Printer
Printer2 Print HP OfficeJet T Series Fax
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 127.0.0.1

"ping 127.0.0.1"


Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

"net view 127.0.0.1"

Shared resources at 127.0.0.1

Brian O'Keefe Computer

Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My_Music Disk
Printer2 Print Fiery X3e 31C-M PCL v2.0
Printer3 Print Creates Adobe PDF
Printer4 Print ActiveTouch Document Loader
SharedDocs Disk
test_for_MGB-database files Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.1.1

"ping 192.168.1.1"


Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 1ms

"net view 192.168.1.1"

End diagnosis for BOKPC
##################
 
C

Chuck

Chuck,

Sorry I was MIA for the last week. Below are the cdiag's for both desktop
(workgroup pc) and laptop (domain pc). Also, I unchecked the Net Firewall
Service in the Network Connection settings. I don't know if I need this, but
I figured if we can at least get things working in one configuration, then if
I have to enable that setting again at least we'll know a starting point.
See the cdiag settings below:

<SNIP>

Brian,

OK, so far I see BOKPC having trouble resolving the address of Home.
Start diagnosis for BOKPC (Targets BOKPC 192.168.1.105 home 192.168.1.104)
<SNIP>
Target home
"ping home"
Pinging home.esi-group-na.com [207.148.205.242] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Ping statistics for 207.148.205.242:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

BOKPC is Node Type = Hybrid.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=160177

To correct this, you'll need to run the Registry Editor on BOKPC. Do this only
if it won't interfere with its use at work (do you maybe have a WINS server
there?).

You need to find this key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\NetBT\Parameters]
and delete these two values (which ever is there):
NodeType
DhcpNodeType

After you delete the two values, reboot the computer.

The Registry Editor is a scary tool, but it's pretty simple once you get used to
it. Here are a couple articles that might help:
<http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/...home/using/productdoc/en/tools_regeditors.asp>
<http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/registry>

Just remember to backup the key (create a registry patch) for:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\NetBT\Parameters]
before deleting the values.

From the Annoyances article:
You can create a Registry patch by opening the Registry Editor, selecting a
branch, and choosing Export from the File menu. Then, specify a filename, and
press OK. You can then view the Registry patch file by opening it in Notepad
(right-click on it and select Edit). Again, just double-click on a Registry
patch file (or use Import in the Registry Editor's File menu) to apply it to the
registry.

Also, let's normalise your browser (not Internet Explorer) situation. Make sure
the browser service is running on Home. Control Panel - Administrative Tools -
Services. Verify that the Computer Browser, and the TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper,
services both show with Status = Started. Disable the browser on BOKPC. Power
both computers off. Power Home on, then BOKPC.

After you correct Node Type on BOKPC, and normalise the browser, rerun IPConfig
and Browstat on both computers, with both computers connected and Home
successfully able to ping BOKPC, and post the results.
 
C

Chuck

Chuck,

Sorry I was MIA for the last week. Below are the cdiag's for both desktop
(workgroup pc) and laptop (domain pc). Also, I unchecked the Net Firewall
Service in the Network Connection settings. I don't know if I need this, but
I figured if we can at least get things working in one configuration, then if
I have to enable that setting again at least we'll know a starting point.
See the cdiag settings below:

<SNIP>

Brian,

One more thing, I want to find out what the "Net Firewall" service is. I have a
computer with XP Pro SP2, and I can't find any such service.

Get Autoruns (free) from
<http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/autoruns.shtml>.
Install (copy to any convenient folder) and run it.

Reactivate the Net Firewall component in the Network Connection settings. The
Windows Firewall will cause problems if inactivated by stopping the service;
whatever this thing is, I have to wonder what happens if you un install its
active element (in Network Connection settings) without un installing the
software itself.

Configure Autoruns to display Services (View - Show Services). Find the Net
Firewall service in Autoruns, and examine the Properties (Description and
Location would be a good start).
 
G

Guest

Chuck,

I ran and install "Autoruns" and I don't see the Net Firewall Service in
there. I set it to "Show Services" and they are all listed there, but I
don't see the work Firewall anywhere in there.

I also took a screen shot of the list with the NFS turned ON and then with
the NFS turned OFF. Then I compared the screen shots and there was no
difference. Maybe I need to try un-installing it. However, I need to double
check that this won't mess me up at work.

Thanks again.

-Brian
 
C

Chuck

Chuck,

I ran and install "Autoruns" and I don't see the Net Firewall Service in
there. I set it to "Show Services" and they are all listed there, but I
don't see the work Firewall anywhere in there.

I also took a screen shot of the list with the NFS turned ON and then with
the NFS turned OFF. Then I compared the screen shots and there was no
difference. Maybe I need to try un-installing it. However, I need to double
check that this won't mess me up at work.

Thanks again.

-Brian

Brian,

Aha. The laptop has work settings - I suspected that.

This can be made to work, but obviously you don't want to mess up your work
connection.

Please do check with your domain admin, find out what settings he / she has
made, and work with her / him to get the laptop to work with your home
environment.

Try one more research. Get PSTools (another free tool) from SysInternals -
<http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/pstools.shtml>. Install and run
psservice. Run "psservice config >c:\psservice.txt", examine the output and
post here.
 
G

Guest

Chuck,

I mistyped that post, I meant to type:
"...but I don't see the worD Firewall anywhere in there."

I meant to type "WorD" and not "Work".

Also, we do have a WINS Server here at work. I have no real sysadmin here
to get help from. You are my only hope at this point.

-Brian
 
C

Chuck

Chuck,

I mistyped that post, I meant to type:
"...but I don't see the worD Firewall anywhere in there."

I meant to type "WorD" and not "Work".

Also, we do have a WINS Server here at work. I have no real sysadmin here
to get help from. You are my only hope at this point.

-Brian

Brian,

OK, that being the case, let's see what we can do without changing the setup of
BOKPC. The Hybrid Node Type is in keeping with using a WINS server, and will
work without WINS also.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=160177

BOKPC is getting its settings automatically, so you apparently have a working
DHCP server at home (and I presume at work), so no problems with configuration
there.

What is "esi-group-na.com" - is that your domain, in Michigan? Right now, I'm
trying to figure why BOKPC should resolve Home as that, with address
207.148.205.242, instead of 192.168.1.104. Are you running a mail server or
something on Home? I pinged 207.148.205.242, which resolves to
"mail.esi-group-na.com". Do you maybe have an LMHosts entry for Home on BOKPC?
 
G

Guest

What is "esi-group-na.com" - is that your domain, in Michigan?

Yes and Yes.
Right now, I'm trying to figure why BOKPC should resolve Home as that, with address
207.148.205.242, instead of 192.168.1.104. Are you running a mail server or
something on Home? I pinged 207.148.205.242, which resolves to
"mail.esi-group-na.com". Do you maybe have an LMHosts entry for Home on BOKPC?

I am not running a mail server on Home. I don't have Home doing anything
out of the ordinary. I just have it hooked up to surf the web, do email,
etc. mail.esi-group... is the server where my work email is. Why would
BOKPC be trying to ping that and why did it assume that home is on the domain
home.esi-group-na.com. That is odd.

I don't know if this matters, but the laptop has a network connection I
setup which allows me to access my work network from home through a VPN.
That has mail.esi-group-na.com as its IP address, connection, etc.
 
C

Chuck

Yes and Yes.


I am not running a mail server on Home. I don't have Home doing anything
out of the ordinary. I just have it hooked up to surf the web, do email,
etc. mail.esi-group... is the server where my work email is. Why would
BOKPC be trying to ping that and why did it assume that home is on the domain
home.esi-group-na.com. That is odd.

I don't know if this matters, but the laptop has a network connection I
setup which allows me to access my work network from home through a VPN.
That has mail.esi-group-na.com as its IP address, connection, etc.

Brian,

OK, there's your problem. Is BOKPC connected to the VPN when you're running
CDiag? If so, it's using the WINS server at work to resolve Home.

Let's try tweaking BOKPC. Right now, it's Node Type Hybrid, which uses WINS by
default, then broadcast. Node Type Mixed uses broadcast first, then WINS.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=160177

Broadcast (peer to peer resolution) is what you need to use at home. WINS
(client to server resolution) is what you're using at work.

First, ping Home to see what I am talking about. Observe both the full name,
and the ip address, in the target.

Then run the Registry Editor on BOKPC.

You need to find this key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\NetBT\Parameters]
and check these two values (which ever is there):
NodeType
DhcpNodeType

One of those values will have the value "8" (Hybrid). Try changing it to "4"
(Mixed). Then reboot, and ping Home after rebooting.

The Registry Editor is a scary tool, but it's pretty simple once you get used to
it. Here are a couple articles that might help:
<http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/...home/using/productdoc/en/tools_regeditors.asp>
<http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/registry>

Just remember to backup the key (create a registry patch) for:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\NetBT\Parameters]
before deleting the values.

From the Annoyances article:
You can create a Registry patch by opening the Registry Editor, selecting a
branch, and choosing Export from the File menu. Then, specify a filename, and
press OK. You can then view the Registry patch file by opening it in Notepad
(right-click on it and select Edit). Again, just double-click on a Registry
patch file (or use Import in the Registry Editor's File menu) to apply it to the
registry.
 
G

Guest

Chuck,

You da man. We are sooooo close. I changed the NodeType for the laptop
from Hybrid to Mixed. Then, from "Start - Run - \\192.168.1.104" I was able
to see the desktop from the laptop, which is a first. Also, I was able to
print from my laptop using the printer that is shared from the desktop.

I also went through and made sure my browser situation was good. I made
sure that those two settings inthe registery were set to "Started". They
were already "Started" for both the laptop and the desktop.

So, my laptop appears to be doing well but now my desktop cannot see my
laptop. So, it is almost reverse from where we started. Below are my cdiag
details. Any ideas?

Thanks again.

-Brian

*******Laptop Cdiag*******
CDiagnosis V1.05
Start diagnosis for BOKPC (Targets BOKPC 192.168.1.105 home 192.168.1.104)

Target BOKPC

"ping BOKPC"



Pinging BOKPC.esi-group-na.com [192.168.1.105] with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.105:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"net view BOKPC"

Shared resources at BOKPC

Brian O'Keefe Computer

Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My_Music Disk
Printer2 Print Fiery X3e 31C-M PCL v2.0
Printer3 Print Creates Adobe PDF
Printer4 Print ActiveTouch Document Loader
SharedDocs Disk
test_for_MGB-database files Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.1.105

"ping 192.168.1.105"



Pinging 192.168.1.105 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.105: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.105:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"net view 192.168.1.105"

Shared resources at 192.168.1.105

Brian O'Keefe Computer

Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My_Music Disk
Printer2 Print Fiery X3e 31C-M PCL v2.0
Printer3 Print Creates Adobe PDF
Printer4 Print ActiveTouch Document Loader
SharedDocs Disk
test_for_MGB-database files Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target home

"ping home"



Pinging home.esi-group-na.com [207.148.205.242] with 32 bytes of data:



Request timed out.

Request timed out.

Request timed out.

Request timed out.



Ping statistics for 207.148.205.242:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),


"net view home"


Target 192.168.1.104

"ping 192.168.1.104"



Pinging 192.168.1.104 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.104:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 1ms


"net view 192.168.1.104"

Shared resources at 192.168.1.104



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My_Music Disk
ojT_ENU_xp1305 Disk
Printer Print HP OfficeJet T Series Printer
Printer2 Print HP OfficeJet T Series Fax
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 127.0.0.1

"ping 127.0.0.1"



Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"net view 127.0.0.1"

Shared resources at 127.0.0.1

Brian O'Keefe Computer

Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My_Music Disk
Printer2 Print Fiery X3e 31C-M PCL v2.0
Printer3 Print Creates Adobe PDF
Printer4 Print ActiveTouch Document Loader
SharedDocs Disk
test_for_MGB-database files Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.1.1

"ping 192.168.1.1"



Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 6ms, Average = 2ms


"net view 192.168.1.1"

End diagnosis for BOKPC
*************************


*******Desktop Cdiag******
CDiagnosis V1.05
Start diagnosis for HOME (Targets BOKPC 192.168.1.105 home 192.168.1.104)

Target BOKPC

"ping BOKPC"

Ping request could not find host BOKPC. Please check the name and try again.

"net view BOKPC"


Target 192.168.1.105

"ping 192.168.1.105"


Pinging 192.168.1.105 with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.105:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

"net view 192.168.1.105"


Target home

"ping home"


Pinging home [192.168.1.104] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.104:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

"net view home"

Shared resources at home



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Home Printer Print HP OfficeJet T Series Printer
My_Music Disk
ojT_ENU_xp1305 Disk
Printer2 Print HP OfficeJet T Series Fax
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.1.104

"ping 192.168.1.104"


Pinging 192.168.1.104 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.104:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

"net view 192.168.1.104"

Shared resources at 192.168.1.104



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Home Printer Print HP OfficeJet T Series Printer
My_Music Disk
ojT_ENU_xp1305 Disk
Printer2 Print HP OfficeJet T Series Fax
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 127.0.0.1

"ping 127.0.0.1"


Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

"net view 127.0.0.1"

Shared resources at 127.0.0.1



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Home Printer Print HP OfficeJet T Series Printer
My_Music Disk
ojT_ENU_xp1305 Disk
Printer2 Print HP OfficeJet T Series Fax
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.1.1

"ping 192.168.1.1"


Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 0ms

"net view 192.168.1.1"

End diagnosis for HOME
*************************
 
C

Chuck

Chuck,

You da man. We are sooooo close. I changed the NodeType for the laptop
from Hybrid to Mixed. Then, from "Start - Run - \\192.168.1.104" I was able
to see the desktop from the laptop, which is a first. Also, I was able to
print from my laptop using the printer that is shared from the desktop.

I also went through and made sure my browser situation was good. I made
sure that those two settings inthe registery were set to "Started". They
were already "Started" for both the laptop and the desktop.

So, my laptop appears to be doing well but now my desktop cannot see my
laptop. So, it is almost reverse from where we started. Below are my cdiag
details. Any ideas?

Thanks again.

-Brian

Brian,

I think your problem is caused by your VPN. Earlier, you had one problem.

(From BOKPC)
"ping home"
Pinging home.esi-group-na.com [207.148.205.242] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Right now, I see three problems:

(From BOKPC)
Pinging home.esi-group-na.com [207.148.205.242] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

(From Home)
Target BOKPC

"ping BOKPC"

Ping request could not find host BOKPC. Please check the name and try again.

"net view BOKPC"
{nil}

Target 192.168.1.105

"ping 192.168.1.105"

Pinging 192.168.1.105 with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.105:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

"net view 192.168.1.105"
{nil}

1) BOKPC appears to resolve Home thru the VPN.
2) Home cannot resolve BOKPC at all.
3) Home cannot ping BOKPC by ip address.

How is your VPN setup? Is the endpoint on the router, or on one of your
computers (and which one if so?)?

I know there's a configuration selection on some VPN clients that lets you
select using the VPN connection to resolve names, but I can't tell you what your
configuration might be without knowing what your VPN client is.

Did you setup the VPN client? Or was it done by someone else?
 
G

Guest

Chuck,

I set up my VPN. I did so in this manner:

Start - Controal Panel - Network connections - Creat New Connection - A
wizard opens up

Next - Connect to a Network at my workplace (Next) - Virtual Private Network
(Next) - ESI NA (Next) - (Next) - mail.esi-group-na.com

Then I was prompted for my domain login and password.

As far as "Which one is the endpoint?", I don't what you mean by that. In
the properties for my VPN network connection I see 5 tabs. The highlights of
each are:

1. General
Host Name: mail.esi-group-na.com - nothing else special

2. Options
Under dialing options, two options are checked: Display progress while
connecting and Prompt for name and password. The "Include Windows logon
domain" is unchecked.

3. Security
Security optoins are set to "Typical (recommended sttings)"
Validate my identity as follows: Require Secure password
There is a check next to "Require data encryption (disconnect if none)"

4. Networking
Type of VPN: Automatic.
Settings -> PPP Settings: Enable LCP extensinos and Enable software
compression are both checked. Negotiate multi-link for single link
connections is unchecked.

5. Advanced
Windows Firewall is set for all of my connections: LAN, Wireless, VPN, AGN
Virtual Network Adaptor

Does any of that help?
 
C

Chuck

Chuck,

I set up my VPN. I did so in this manner:

Start - Controal Panel - Network connections - Creat New Connection - A
wizard opens up

Next - Connect to a Network at my workplace (Next) - Virtual Private Network
(Next) - ESI NA (Next) - (Next) - mail.esi-group-na.com

Then I was prompted for my domain login and password.

As far as "Which one is the endpoint?", I don't what you mean by that. In
the properties for my VPN network connection I see 5 tabs. The highlights of
each are:

1. General
Host Name: mail.esi-group-na.com - nothing else special

2. Options
Under dialing options, two options are checked: Display progress while
connecting and Prompt for name and password. The "Include Windows logon
domain" is unchecked.

3. Security
Security optoins are set to "Typical (recommended sttings)"
Validate my identity as follows: Require Secure password
There is a check next to "Require data encryption (disconnect if none)"

4. Networking
Type of VPN: Automatic.
Settings -> PPP Settings: Enable LCP extensinos and Enable software
compression are both checked. Negotiate multi-link for single link
connections is unchecked.

5. Advanced
Windows Firewall is set for all of my connections: LAN, Wireless, VPN, AGN
Virtual Network Adaptor

Does any of that help?

Brian,

The endpoint is the VPN client where the tunnel is encoded and decoded. When
the endpoint is a router, you have a security tunnel from the router to the VPN
router / server at the other end. When the endpoint is a computer, the tunnel
runs directly from the computer to the VPN router / server at the other end.

When the endpoint is a router, you can have normal LAN traffic between any of
the computers connected to the LAN side of the router, and normal internet
access from any of the computers. When the endpoint is a computer, all traffic
from the computer runs to the other end of the tunnel, if not otherwise
configured.

With some VPN tunnels, a computer running the VPN client effectively drops off
the local LAN, and becomes another computer on the LAN at the other end. This
is actually preferable for some business LANs - you don't want to have your LAN
compromised by a high security tunnel to a personal LAN with a possibly
unsecured internet connection, and heaven knows what other unsecured computers.
Access to the internet then goes thru the internet gateway at the business, and
can be controlled like a business client computer.

Name resolution, for a computer connected to a VPN, is another issue. If your
computer is attached to a VPN (wherever the endpoint), you're going to need
access to named resources at the remote (business) end. If the business uses a
WINS server, the Node Type setting on your computer becomes important - a
b-node, p-node, m-node, or h-node will resolve addresses differently, affecting
access to resources at the local and remote ends.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=160177

So to my question - is the endpoint on your LAN the router, BOKPC, or Home? I
suspect that the answer to that should help answer your problem.
 

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