Shared Borders Grayed Out

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Paul Fenton

I have a web with 4 sub-webs. On the root web and one of the sub
webs, the Shared Borders menu item is grayed out and unusable. In
addition, a couple of pages in the problem sub-web have lost their
borders while others haven't. Three of the 4 sub-webs are working
properly.

The site is www.gwrra-ca1r.org and the problem sub-web is "Calendar".
The other 3 are fine.

I've brought this problem to the Host and they're at a loss as to
what's going on.


Paul Fenton
(e-mail address removed)
 
M

MD Websunlimited

Hi Paul,

What are your compatibility settings set to? Tools | Page Options | Authoring (FP3) Compatibility (FP2) Make sure they are set to
custom and all are checked.
 
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Paul Fenton

Mike, thank you for responding. I did that but Shared Borders is
still grayed out.


Paul Fenton
 
T

Tina Clarke

Paul Fenton said:
I have a web with 4 sub-webs. On the root web and one of the sub
webs, the Shared Borders menu item is grayed out and unusable. In
addition, a couple of pages in the problem sub-web have lost their
borders while others haven't. Three of the 4 sub-webs are working
properly.

The site is www.gwrra-ca1r.org and the problem sub-web is "Calendar".
The other 3 are fine.
Click to expand...

Your code says your using fp02 but if your using fp03 check you also have
shared bordes ticked under authoring.

Do you have the web open when you look on the menu?

Double check you have ticked everything and have all set to custom.

If necessary just add

<meta name="Microsoft Theme" content="tp-grid1 111, default">
<meta name="Microsoft Border" content="tlb, default">

between the head tags in the html (code) view.

Tina
Tip now out is: THUMBS.DB AND FRONTPAGE
http://frontpage-tips.com/ - FrontPage Tips
They are primarily for FrontPage 2003 but will be good
for earlier versions too.
 
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Stefan B Rusynko

Shared borders are a client program design time component (globally enabled for all sites)
- not controlled by the FP SE on your host
Tools - Page Options - Authoring - Authoring Time Web Components (turn on SB & Nav)

The only way they would not be available is if you are not opening the site or subsite in FP 2003
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| Mike, thank you for responding. I did that but Shared Borders is
| still grayed out.
|
|
| Paul Fenton
|
|
| On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:03:55 -0600, "MD Websunlimited" <[email protected]>
| wrote:
|
| >Hi Paul,
| >
| >What are your compatibility settings set to? Tools | Page Options | Authoring (FP3) Compatibility (FP2) Make sure they are set to
| >custom and all are checked.
|
 
P

Paul Fenton

Thank you Stefan... I guess I should have mentioned that I'm using FP
2002.

Paul Fenton
 
P

Paul Fenton

Thank you Tina. Yes, I'm using FP 2002.

The web is not open when I'm editing from FP and I edit directly on
the host. I have set Servers under Compatibility to Custom and
everything is ticked.

What's interesting is that when I first open the web for edit, but
have not opened a page for edit, the Shared Borders item is NOT grayed
out. It's only when I open one of the pages. That it disappears. As
soon as I close the page, it's available again on the menu.

And those meta names are already there in the position you specified.


Paul Fenton
 
T

Tina Clarke

And those meta names are already there in the position you specified.
Click to expand...

Actually there are not in your html on your problem pages;)

Try opening a new normal page with nothing on and seeing if the shared
border is greyed out.

Tina
Tip now out is: THUMBS.DB AND FRONTPAGE
http://frontpage-tips.com/ - FrontPage Tips
They are primarily for FrontPage 2003 but will be good
for earlier versions too.
 
P

Paul Fenton

Thank you again, Tina for checking. I guess I must be missing
something because I see

<meta name="Microsoft Theme" content="tp-grid1 111, default">
<meta name="Microsoft Border" content="tlb, default">

on all the pages, January, February, etc. And when I opened a new,
blank page, it opened with those two lines in the HTML, as below

<html>

<head>
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 5.0">
<meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
<title>New Page 1</title>
<meta name="Microsoft Theme" content="tp-grid1 111, default">
<meta name="Microsoft Border" content="tlb, default">
</head>


but in every case, Shared Borders is still grayed out on the menu bar.


Paul Fenton
 
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Paul Fenton

Tina, I misspoke in this reply. The web site is open for edit on the
server when I have this problem. Just to clarify that.

Paul Fenton
 
T

Tina Clarke

Paul Fenton said:
Thank you again, Tina for checking. I guess I must be missing
something because I see

<meta name="Microsoft Theme" content="tp-grid1 111, default">
<meta name="Microsoft Border" content="tlb, default">

on all the pages, January, February, etc. And when I opened a new,
blank page, it opened with those two lines in the HTML, as below
Click to expand...

I see this on

<meta name="Microsoft Theme" content="none, default">
<meta name="Microsoft Border" content="none, default">

http://www.gwrra-ca1r.org/staff.htm

You said the problem pages were under Calendar
http://gwrra-ca1r.org/calendar/february.htm

This was the only page that did not have them set .... in that area.....

I find your site confusing because there are a lot of different styles ...
which all seem to be about the same subject.... it's best to be consistant
throught a site ... decide on your template or theme then apply to the site.
.... It's much easier to use includes:)

....You said you had problem pages where your borders were not coming up ....
so which are those pages? .... open those pages in the html and insert the
code

<meta name="Microsoft Theme" content="tp-grid1 111, default">
<meta name="Microsoft Border" content="tlb, default">

To get around your current problem...

If you want me to look live on the server I can do - offlist.

Tina


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Stefan B Rusynko

And the fact that the site has 2 theme setting as default if causing the theme not to work correctly
If the site uses a theme only 1 can be set as default - say
<meta name="Microsoft Theme" content="tp-grid1 111, default">
the pages w/o a theme it should just be
<meta name="Microsoft Theme" content="none">

Same applies to shared borders - if they are used it should be
<meta name="Microsoft Border" content="tlb, default">
and for pages w/o it should just be
<meta name="Microsoft Border" content="none">
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|
| | > Thank you again, Tina for checking. I guess I must be missing
| > something because I see
| >
| > <meta name="Microsoft Theme" content="tp-grid1 111, default">
| > <meta name="Microsoft Border" content="tlb, default">
| >
| > on all the pages, January, February, etc. And when I opened a new,
| > blank page, it opened with those two lines in the HTML, as below
| >
|
| I see this on
|
| <meta name="Microsoft Theme" content="none, default">
| <meta name="Microsoft Border" content="none, default">
|
| http://www.gwrra-ca1r.org/staff.htm
|
| You said the problem pages were under Calendar
| http://gwrra-ca1r.org/calendar/february.htm
|
| This was the only page that did not have them set .... in that area.....
|
| I find your site confusing because there are a lot of different styles ...
| which all seem to be about the same subject.... it's best to be consistant
| throught a site ... decide on your template or theme then apply to the site.
| ... It's much easier to use includes:)
|
| ...You said you had problem pages where your borders were not coming up ....
| so which are those pages? .... open those pages in the html and insert the
| code
|
| <meta name="Microsoft Theme" content="tp-grid1 111, default">
| <meta name="Microsoft Border" content="tlb, default">
|
| To get around your current problem...
|
| If you want me to look live on the server I can do - offlist.
|
| Tina
|
|
| --
| http://accessfp.net/ - FrontPage Resource Centre
| http://anyfrontpage.com/ - FrontPage Ezine - Free FP Ebook
| http://addonfp.com/ - FrontPage Addons
| http://frontpage-tips.com/ - FrontPage Tips NEWLY LAUNCHED
| http://msmvps.com/frontpage/ - FrontPage News & Articles Blog
| http://frontpage-advice.blogspot.com/ - FrontPage Advice Blog
| http://frontpage-ebooks.com/ - FrontPage Ebooks
|
|
|
 
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Paul Fenton

Tina, I want to thank you for hanging in there and trying to solve
this problem. I finally got the Host to re-install the FP extensions
and that has solved the problem.

Yes, the site can be confusing. I've used this site to learn FP and
experiment with differnt things so that it's now rather cluttered. I
keep saying I'm going to clean it up, but it has been working quite
well for several years and the small group of users (it's a club) seem
happy with it. At this point, it's kind of "Yeah, I know I need to
revise it, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Again, thank you very much. I appreciate your good efforts.


Paul Fenton
 

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