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Steven Wabik
does anyone know when the extimated release date of service pack 3 will be
and what the possible included features updates might be if any?
and what the possible included features updates might be if any?
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Tony Meloche
Steven said:
This is asked about 4-5 times a week, so I'll give you the short form:
Microsoft says release is *scheduled* for "1st quarter of 2008".
The overwhelming majority of it will be fixes and patches that have been
downloading through Windows Update all along - if your computer is set
up for automatic download.
I'm not clear myself on what else may be in it.
TOny
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Steven Wabik
well, thanks. i asked this in the news groups about 4 or more months back
when i was beta testing vista and someone said the 2nd half of 2008. does
microsoft keep changing thier mind on this like every few weeks or
something? just wondering.
i really hope service pack 3 comes out soon. i realy need it. right now
there feels like there are like 100 or so downloads after sp2 is installed.
and not everything seems to be availible on windows update. some you either
have to call for or you have to go to the microsoft download center and
search for.
when i was beta testing vista and someone said the 2nd half of 2008. does
microsoft keep changing thier mind on this like every few weeks or
something? just wondering.
i really hope service pack 3 comes out soon. i realy need it. right now
there feels like there are like 100 or so downloads after sp2 is installed.
and not everything seems to be availible on windows update. some you either
have to call for or you have to go to the microsoft download center and
search for.
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Uncle Grumpy
Keep wondering. And come back again in four months to ask again.
WHY?
Haven't you been regularly updating your computer? If the answer is
no, don't expect MS to correct your laziness.
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Steven Wabik
well, maybe we will all get luck and it might be out by then or so and i
will not need to ask again.
will not need to ask again.
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Ken Blake, MVP
No, it doesn't. Do not make the common mistake of confusing an
estimate of when something will be available with a promise.
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Steven Wabik
don't worry, i'm not making the mistake. not on this. i'm just hoping for
the best. afterall XP is better than vista....lol. vista just has bugs that
need to be worked out then maybe it can be labeled as a better operating
system. but thats just my opinion of it.
the best. afterall XP is better than vista....lol. vista just has bugs that
need to be worked out then maybe it can be labeled as a better operating
system. but thats just my opinion of it.
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Timothy Daniels
"Uncle Grumpy" whyed:
Maybe the guy has to re-install his Windows XP and would rather
not have to download and install all those pathes.
*TimDaniels*
Maybe the guy has to re-install his Windows XP and would rather
not have to download and install all those pathes.
*TimDaniels*
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Steven Wabik
who knows? there are like 100+ hotfixes after sp2 is installed.
(preinstalled or not.) hopefully preinstalled...lol i think everyone wants
sp3 so they don't have to deal with them all.
(preinstalled or not.) hopefully preinstalled...lol i think everyone wants
sp3 so they don't have to deal with them all.
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Ken Blake, MVP
I wasn't worried.
Well when you ask "does microsoft keep changing thier mind on this
like every few weeks or something?" it sure sounds to me like you're
making that mistake. They can't change their mind if they haven't
promised anything.
That's your view. It's not mine.
Right. it's your opinion. As I said, it's not mine. Do you run Vista
Have you run Vista? I'm happy with it here.
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Steven Wabik
i had a tx1000z with vista on it but i returned it after a week because of
application compatility problems. it just bothered me to much. i also tested
the beta and the weird thing was that the beta had less issues in certian
places.
i'm sure that others are happy with vista though. i'm sortta a perfectionist
in a way when it comes to computers. i need to have everything working the
way i want it to or else it will bother the heck outta me. in beta programs
i don't really care.
i exchanged it for a tc4400 with windows XP on it.
application compatility problems. it just bothered me to much. i also tested
the beta and the weird thing was that the beta had less issues in certian
places.
i'm sure that others are happy with vista though. i'm sortta a perfectionist
in a way when it comes to computers. i need to have everything working the
way i want it to or else it will bother the heck outta me. in beta programs
i don't really care.
i exchanged it for a tc4400 with windows XP on it.
Ken Blake said:
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SAM-R
Are you asking when XP SP3 will RTM, or when the XP SP3 Beta will start?
XP SP3 is tied to the Server 2008 Beta and the Vista SP1 Beta in that all 3
will include some new Networking updates.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/nap/napfaq.mspx
XP SP3 is tied to the Server 2008 Beta and the Vista SP1 Beta in that all 3
will include some new Networking updates.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/nap/napfaq.mspx
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jim w
to ketsup.
why do you have to be a smart a....??
your post now blocked
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Thee Chicago Wolf
does anyone know when the extimated release date of service pack 3 will be
A couple of Microsoft folks let slip the release date as potentially
being by the years end but who knows. A first beta was supposed to be
out by the middle of this month but it's still not out. Some other
have speculated that the release of XP SP3 and Vista SP1 will be
around the same time and pre-empt Server 2008 because of the new
features being added to XP SP3 in the way of NAP.
- Thee Chicago Wolf
A couple of Microsoft folks let slip the release date as potentially
being by the years end but who knows. A first beta was supposed to be
out by the middle of this month but it's still not out. Some other
have speculated that the release of XP SP3 and Vista SP1 will be
around the same time and pre-empt Server 2008 because of the new
features being added to XP SP3 in the way of NAP.
- Thee Chicago Wolf
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Thee Chicago Wolf
i had a tx1000z with vista on it but i returned it after a week because of
It's been a while since I've re-installed XP with SP2 slipstreamed
because it IS a hassle to get all the little updates from WU not to
mention non-WU patches for other odd problems. It'll be nice to
slipstream SP3 and finally be able to do a re-install. You are aware
of things like Ryan VMs update packs, right? Officially, Microsoft's
web page says 1st half 2008, that officially means Jan 1st or June
30th (and all dates in between). So it's either 3 months away or, as
far as I am concerned, when server 2008 hits RTM. It's more contingent
on that release than whatever's on their web site. We've all waited
since 2004 and lots of pushed-back release date so what's a few more
months.
- Thee Chicago Wolf
It's been a while since I've re-installed XP with SP2 slipstreamed
because it IS a hassle to get all the little updates from WU not to
mention non-WU patches for other odd problems. It'll be nice to
slipstream SP3 and finally be able to do a re-install. You are aware
of things like Ryan VMs update packs, right? Officially, Microsoft's
web page says 1st half 2008, that officially means Jan 1st or June
30th (and all dates in between). So it's either 3 months away or, as
far as I am concerned, when server 2008 hits RTM. It's more contingent
on that release than whatever's on their web site. We've all waited
since 2004 and lots of pushed-back release date so what's a few more
months.
- Thee Chicago Wolf
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Ken Blake, MVP
No, it does *not* officially mean that. That "first half of 2008" is
an *estimate*, not a promise.
No, there have been *no* pushed-back release dates. No date has ever
been announced. You are again confusing estimates with promises.
Personally I wish Microsoft would never publish these estimated dates.
All they do is confuse people, who too often treat them as promises.
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Thee Chicago Wolf
Officially, Microsoft's
I don't mean to feed the trolls but, what exactly does the 1st half of
2008 mean? January 1st until June 30th is the 1st half of any year. I
don't know what calendar you own, but mine doesn't promise but
guarantees me that Jan 1st through June 30th will be the 1st half of
the year.
You do know it is well documented since at least 2005 of the release
date of SP3 and it continuously kept being postponed as Vista was
being hyped, pruned, plucked, scrapped, and then re-written again,
right? There are dozens if not a hundred tech, editorial, blog, and
news sites that have this fact historically documented. The Microsoft
Service Pack Road Map schedule web site has been updated MANY times
with the date change and release for SP3. The only fact one can garner
from that web site is that the SP3 date is "preliminary." Preliminary
is more an estimate and less of a promise.
Some historical information:
From Softpedia in 2007:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-XP-SP-3-Is-Dead-Long-Live-Windows-Vista-SP1-55518.shtml
From the Washington Post from October 2006:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2006/10/microsoft_delays_windowx_xp_se.html
From Dailytech, Jan 2006:
http://www.dailytech.com/Windows+XP+SP3+to+Set+Sail+in+2H+07/article325.htm
From the very respected Mary Jo Foley from Jan
2006:http://www.microsoft-watch.com/cont...t_until_2007.html?kc=MWRSS0%202129TX1K0000535
From CNET News.com from 2005:
http://www.news.com/Microsoft-confirms-next-XP-service-pack/2100-1016_3-5886274.html
Again, see above. By release date, I guess it cannot ever be said that
a specific *date* was give but release schedules were.
Don't blame Microsoft, blame their Executives and Management's lack of
competency in product and service delivery. Or just blame Ballmer
because he's the one who said it would ship before Vista on numerous
occasions. If, like the rest of us, you feel that SP1 for Vista will
actually make RTM Gold, then yes, if SP3 ships before Vista SP1, he's
not going to be a liar after all.
- Thee Chicago Wolf
I don't mean to feed the trolls but, what exactly does the 1st half of
2008 mean? January 1st until June 30th is the 1st half of any year. I
don't know what calendar you own, but mine doesn't promise but
guarantees me that Jan 1st through June 30th will be the 1st half of
the year.
You do know it is well documented since at least 2005 of the release
date of SP3 and it continuously kept being postponed as Vista was
being hyped, pruned, plucked, scrapped, and then re-written again,
right? There are dozens if not a hundred tech, editorial, blog, and
news sites that have this fact historically documented. The Microsoft
Service Pack Road Map schedule web site has been updated MANY times
with the date change and release for SP3. The only fact one can garner
from that web site is that the SP3 date is "preliminary." Preliminary
is more an estimate and less of a promise.
Some historical information:
From Softpedia in 2007:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-XP-SP-3-Is-Dead-Long-Live-Windows-Vista-SP1-55518.shtml
From the Washington Post from October 2006:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2006/10/microsoft_delays_windowx_xp_se.html
From Dailytech, Jan 2006:
http://www.dailytech.com/Windows+XP+SP3+to+Set+Sail+in+2H+07/article325.htm
From the very respected Mary Jo Foley from Jan
2006:http://www.microsoft-watch.com/cont...t_until_2007.html?kc=MWRSS0%202129TX1K0000535
From CNET News.com from 2005:
http://www.news.com/Microsoft-confirms-next-XP-service-pack/2100-1016_3-5886274.html
Again, see above. By release date, I guess it cannot ever be said that
a specific *date* was give but release schedules were.
Don't blame Microsoft, blame their Executives and Management's lack of
competency in product and service delivery. Or just blame Ballmer
because he's the one who said it would ship before Vista on numerous
occasions. If, like the rest of us, you feel that SP1 for Vista will
actually make RTM Gold, then yes, if SP3 ships before Vista SP1, he's
not going to be a liar after all.
- Thee Chicago Wolf