Serious Security & Administrative issue most people don't know about!!!

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After you install "Windows XP Home Edition" (and possibly the "XP Professional Edition") and you change the Administration name to your own Log on name the Administration Log on is still there but does not show up any more unless you restart in "Safe Mode". That means there is a higher level Administration log on then your new log on (it can change things on all other Aministration level names) that isn't even password protected until you give it one. I have not seen any kind of warning about this from Microsoft anywhere. This is a security issue that is very serious!!!!!!!! Kids out there that find this out are likely to create there own administraion names and then delete them so parents don't know they have access to anything they want to do on the computer or the internet!!!!!!!!
Hope that Microsoft and parents read this before kids or anyone that shouldn't have access to full rights on XP computers do.
There is no warning that the Default Administrator account still exists after your change the default Administration account to another name. It appears that your new account is the only Administrative level account, but the default Administrator account is still there, but only if you restart in "Safe Mode". The fact is there is no warning about the Default account still being there and Micrsoft should get the word out AND fix this problem

I should explain what happened so that it is better understood what I mean.

When I install Windows XP Home Edition I do not add a password until I have added all the Microsoft updates and the software I have to. That makes the install faster not having to log on. I did not create a new Administrative Account. I changed the Default Administrative Account's name, then added a password. This left no other account showing on the log on screen. I found the Administrator Account when I had a problem that caused me to end up in safe mode.
When I logged on to this Administrator Account it didn't need a password and could change things on the Account I had a password on. I logged on to my normal account name while in safe mode and tried to do things to the Administrator Account and found that my normal User Account didn't have the same rights over the Administrator Account even though it had full Administrative control.

Clearly this is a serious security issue since most people would not end up in the safe mode with how stable XP is. People trying to find ways around having a Limited User Account could use this access point. I also wonder if it is possible a hacker could log on with this Administrator Account from the internet. I have read security adviseries that say you should change any accounts that have the name Administrator to a different name since hackers will try to use that name.
Is it possible for a hacker to gain access to this Account even though it is only available in safe mode

This is something that should be changed
Just tried something with this serious Security Issue to see if I could do what I thought could be done. I went into safe mode and logged on under this Default Administrator Account and created a new User account with Administrative Rights. Then I logged on as the new name under a normal start up. I then deleted the password for my main User Account I normally use.

Anyone out there that has kids using what is supposed to be a safe Limited User Account on a computer could be letting them do anything they want and not even know it. The kids could add there own password to this Default Administrator Account and then create as many Full Admin accounts they want or delete the existing administrative accounts that the parents are using or delete the password it had and look at anything the parents have that is supposed to be safe from the kids prying eyes
 
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Richard Urban

And you have no idea what he is talking about!

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-----Original Message-----
After you install "Windows XP Home Edition" (and
possibly the "XP Professional Edition") and you change
the Administration name to your own Log on name the
Administration Log on is still there but does not show up
any more unless you restart in "Safe Mode". That means
there is a higher level Administration log on then your
new log on (it can change things on all other
Aministration level names) that isn't even password
protected until you give it one. I have not seen any kind
of warning about this from Microsoft anywhere. This is a
security issue that is very serious!!!!!!!! Kids out
there that find this out are likely to create there own
administraion names and then delete them so parents don't
know they have access to anything they want to do on the
computer or the internet!!!!!!!!
Hope that Microsoft and parents read this before
kids or anyone that shouldn't have access to full rights
on XP computers do.
There is no warning that the Default Administrator
account still exists after your change the default
Administration account to another name. It appears that
your new account is the only Administrative level
account, but the default Administrator account is still
there, but only if you restart in "Safe Mode". The fact
is there is no warning about the Default account still
being there and Micrsoft should get the word out AND fix
this problem.
I should explain what happened so that it is better understood what I mean.

When I install Windows XP Home Edition I do not
add a password until I have added all the Microsoft
updates and the software I have to. That makes the
install faster not having to log on. I did not create a
new Administrative Account. I changed the Default
Administrative Account's name, then added a password.
This left no other account showing on the log on screen.
I found the Administrator Account when I had a problem
that caused me to end up in safe mode.
When I logged on to this Administrator Account it
didn't need a password and could change things on the
Account I had a password on. I logged on to my normal
account name while in safe mode and tried to do things to
the Administrator Account and found that my normal User
Account didn't have the same rights over the
Administrator Account even though it had full
Administrative control.
Clearly this is a serious security issue since most
people would not end up in the safe mode with how stable
XP is. People trying to find ways around having a Limited
User Account could use this access point. I also wonder
if it is possible a hacker could log on with this
Administrator Account from the internet. I have read
security adviseries that say you should change any
accounts that have the name Administrator to a different
name since hackers will try to use that name.
Is it possible for a hacker to gain access
to this Account even though it is only available in safe
mode?
This is something that should be changed.
Just tried something with this serious Security Issue to
see if I could do what I thought could be done. I went
into safe mode and logged on under this Default
Administrator Account and created a new User account with
Administrative Rights. Then I logged on as the new name
under a normal start up. I then deleted the password for
my main User Account I normally use.
Anyone out there that has kids using what is supposed
to be a safe Limited User Account on a computer could be
letting them do anything they want and not even know it.
The kids could add there own password to this Default
Administrator Account and then create as many Full Admin
accounts they want or delete the existing administrative
accounts that the parents are using or delete the
password it had and look at anything the parents have
that is supposed to be safe from the kids prying eyes.
.
? who told xp home is a secure os?

in xp pro you are prompted to create the admin password
during install making it more difficult for someone to
access it(not for anyone with half a brain)

xp home is not secure and is not meant to be highly
secure it is for the casual home user.

pro offers some ways to better protect your system,but
any knowledgeable teen can get in and do anything they
want,including locking the parents out.

bottom line with additional third party software to
thoroughly and draconically shutdown the os,any kid can
and will access anything they want.
 

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