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FromTheRafters
micky said:
That's the idea - clever huh? Users will always be the weakest link in
the security chain.
[...]
That's the idea - clever huh? Users will always be the weakest link in
the security chain.
[...]
D
Dustin
Thanks to facial recognition technology tho, some systems are able to
"see" what that human sees and are able to correctly enter the captcha. ;p
Isn't technology grand? hehehehe
--
Walking on a Razor's edge, so hard for me to find my way home. How could it
have come to this? So hard to pick the right from the wrong. I can't try to
hide behind myself anymore. I can't try to reason with the pain and the
torture. So I will grab hold to forever and walk right through this open
door. Walking on this lonely road, the heartbreaking pain at my side.
Without two arms to hold me, nothing but the chain of goodbyes.
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FromTheRafters
Dustin said:micky said:On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 20:38:32 -0500, FromTheRafters
Nobody> (Revisited) wrote:
On 11/7/2011 3:05 PM, micky wrote:
I'm not sure about the automation aspect, but I always assumed it
was
so. I've even heard of automatic account creation programs that
enlist already compromised computers to 'ransom' their computing
power and get the user to supply answers to 'CAPTCHA' strings as
payment.
What! I've never heard of this. Extortion by spammers, against
someone who knows he's being extorted. And like with kidnappers, how
does he know they'll let his computer go free if he pays?
It does sound bizarre, but it's been seen in "developing countries".
I think "ransom" wasn't exactly the right wording tho.
The CAPTCHAs are fed at the user disguised as "activity checks",
often found in cheezy internet cafes. You have to do the CAPTCHA to
keep from getting booted off.
Yeah, it was perhaps overstated a bit.) But to the user it seems
that nothing can be done except enter the symbols to be able to
continue with what they were doing with the computing power they are
now temporarily being deprived of.
I've got your clock cycles, if you want them back then pay me these
symbols represented herein (see map of distorted text characters
inset).
So this is done in order to get a human to translate those distorted
character boxes**, since the bad computer can't do that without human
help?
That's the idea - clever huh? Users will always be the weakest link in
the security chain.
[...]
Thanks to facial recognition technology tho, some systems are able to
"see" what that human sees and are able to correctly enter the captcha. ;p
I've got some Optical Character Recognition software that came with my
combination color scanner and b&w printer/copier. I was amazed at how
well it worked with lousy copies of printed documents. I suppose they
could be improved as well and used against CAPTCHA images.
Indeed! Where the Turing test was to measure successful mimicry of a
human, we are now hard pressed to come up with a test for a human to
prove they are *not* a computer.
D
Dustin
;pDustin said:micky wrote:
On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 20:38:32 -0500, FromTheRafters
Nobody> (Revisited) wrote:
On 11/7/2011 3:05 PM, micky wrote:
I'm not sure about the automation aspect, but I always assumed it
was
so. I've even heard of automatic account creation programs that
enlist already compromised computers to 'ransom' their computing
power and get the user to supply answers to 'CAPTCHA' strings as
payment.
What! I've never heard of this. Extortion by spammers, against
someone who knows he's being extorted. And like with kidnappers, how
does he know they'll let his computer go free if he pays?
It does sound bizarre, but it's been seen in "developing countries".
I think "ransom" wasn't exactly the right wording tho.
The CAPTCHAs are fed at the user disguised as "activity checks",
often found in cheezy internet cafes. You have to do the CAPTCHA to
keep from getting booted off.
Yeah, it was perhaps overstated a bit.
that nothing can be done except enter the symbols to be able to
continue with what they were doing with the computing power they are
now temporarily being deprived of.
I've got your clock cycles, if you want them back then pay me these
symbols represented herein (see map of distorted text characters
inset).
So this is done in order to get a human to translate those distorted
character boxes**, since the bad computer can't do that without human
help?
That's the idea - clever huh? Users will always be the weakest link in
the security chain.
[...]
Thanks to facial recognition technology tho, some systems are able to
"see" what that human sees and are able to correctly enter the captcha.
I've got some Optical Character Recognition software that came with my
combination color scanner and b&w printer/copier. I was amazed at how
well it worked with lousy copies of printed documents. I suppose they
could be improved as well and used against CAPTCHA images.
Yes.
Indeed! Where the Turing test was to measure successful mimicry of a
human, we are now hard pressed to come up with a test for a human to
prove they are *not* a computer.
So far, the ones which require you to do something more than enter what you
see are tripping the automated systems up. However! It shouldn't be long
before they can properly parse commands and again, do as a human would do.
lol.
It reminds me of the cat/mouse game from my Vx days. Things are easier to
code now.. Windows really makes things easy... Man, internet comms is
almost like a dream. lol. If I knew windows code then, and realized what I
could have done with it... er... wait.. bad thoughts, bad thoughts. lol
--
Walking on a Razor's edge, so hard for me to find my way home. How could it
have come to this? So hard to pick the right from the wrong. I can't try to
hide behind myself anymore. I can't try to reason with the pain and the
torture. So I will grab hold to forever and walk right through this open
door. Walking on this lonely road, the heartbreaking pain at my side.
Without two arms to hold me, nothing but the chain of goodbyes.