Selling my soul to the devil is the next step...

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Dr Teeth

I have three PCs on my LAN, all running Win XP SP2 fully patched.

The problem is that PC1 can not see PC2; PC3 can see PC2; PC1 can see
PC3. To get stuff to PC2, I had to send it via PC3. It is not quite as
simple as that though. That was the case last night before I tried
some further fixes after some Googling.

The hardware seems to be okay. I can ping 127.0.0.1 on all PCs.

Running ipconfig /all shows all data matching. I have run the
Networking wizard on PCs 1&2 without it making any difference,
rebooting after each time.

TCP/IP stacks have been rebuilt using an MS tool from here
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/299357/.

No firewalls active on the LAN.

I have also repaired the LAN connections.

Every parameter that I can think of has been checked and seems to be
the same on each PC.

All permissions are set to full with the same username on all PCs. PC
1+3 are NTFS and PC2 is FAT32

I changed the cables around at the back of my router without changing
the affected PCs.

In fact, I cannot find anything that has changed and the LAN has
worked well for months.

On PC2 clicking on My network Places > MSoft Windows Network > Mshome
produces a dialogue box which says that the list of servers for this
workgroup is not available. There is quite a delay before Mshome
appears.

Doing the same on PC1 and PC3 shows both PC1 and PC3. However, a
shortcut to PC2 is present on PC3 (actual location C:\Documents and
Settings\<user>\NetHood) which does give full access. Transferring
this shortcut to PC1 does not give access to PC2.

Occasionally, an entry for PC2 does show under Mshome, but clicking on
it produces an error saying the network path not being found.

The diagnostic problem is that one PC is not completely borked. It
would be easier to fix than the current situation.

Thank you for reading the above ramblings and hope that they make
enough sense for somebody to point me in the right direction. I'm
completely stumped. Selling my soul to 'the horned one' is my next
step!

TIA.

--
Cheers,

Guy

** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
** out of someone who richly deserves it.
 
Try a static IP on all 2 machines and setting up a host file in the
windows directory with the information on all 3 computers.

Tony
 
I was just thinking how wonderful life was, when Anthony W
Try a static IP on all 2 machines and setting up a host file in the
windows directory with the information on all 3 computers.

Hi Tony,

All three PCs have static IPs (sorry did not say so earlier). Could
you please give a tad more info on your HOST file idea.

The HOST file on all three PCs is identical and their location is
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc on all PCs. The only line (not
commented out, natch) is:-
127.0.0.1 localhost.

A bit more info, I have found that I cannot disable the LAN connection
on PC2, but can on the others.

TIA.

--
Cheers,

Guy

** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
** out of someone who richly deserves it.
 
I was just thinking how wonderful life was, when Anthony W


Hi Tony,

All three PCs have static IPs (sorry did not say so earlier). Could
you please give a tad more info on your HOST file idea.

The HOST file on all three PCs is identical and their location is
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc on all PCs. The only line (not
commented out, natch) is:-
127.0.0.1 localhost.

A bit more info, I have found that I cannot disable the LAN connection
on PC2, but can on the others.

TIA.

Guy,

Maybe your symptoms are similar to the other thread. Let's see - why not
provide "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net config
workstation", from each computer, and we may be able to diagnose the problem.
Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely
(download browstat!):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
 
Hi Chuck,

I've been out of town for a couple of days.

I will get back to you with the info that you requested as soon as I
can and I really appreciate your help.

--
Cheers,

Guy

** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
** out of someone who richly deserves it.
 
Hi Chuck,

Here's the info you requested. The node type shows as broadcast on PC
2 as I was trying some troubleshooting myself using your site.

I also have an NVidia motherboard here and uninstalled and reinstalled
my drivers here without any effect.

All Pcs are Win XP Pro, SP2, latest patches applied (i.e. including
those from last few days).

Sorry, but my Usenet client is word wrapping (line length limited to
70). I have uploaded the files to my web site if you prefer to read
them unwrapped; they're here http://www.drteeth.co.uk/lan

------------------------------------------------PC1follows------------------------------------------------------------

Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{8DE02B6D-A536-44EE-B2DA-A74DA54A52E1}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: NUMBER_1
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master NUMBER_1
\\NUMBER_1
There are 3 servers in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{8DE02B6D-A536-44EE-B2DA-A74DA54A52E1}
There are 1 domains in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{8DE02B6D-A536-44EE-B2DA-A74DA54A52E1}



Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : TARDIS_2

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 5:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking
Controller

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-15-F2-4C-D8-87

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 14 August 2006 13:58:10

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 14 August 2006 14:58:10



Computer name \\TARDIS_2
Full Computer name TARDIS_2
User name Guy

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{8DE02B6D-A536-44EE-B2DA-A74DA54A52E1}
(0015F24CD887)

Software version Windows 2002

Workstation domain WORKGROUP
Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
Logon domain TARDIS_2

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully.

Server Name \\TARDIS_2
Server Comment

Software version Windows 2002
Server is active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{8DE02B6D-A536-44EE-B2DA-A74DA54A52E1}
(0015f24cd887)


Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 10
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.


-------------------------------------------------PC2 follows---------



Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B267792A-DF96-41C7-A3CF-3E84C1FE17A0}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: NUMBER_1
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master NUMBER_1
\\NUMBER_1
There are 3 servers in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B267792A-DF96-41C7-A3CF-3E84C1FE17A0}
There are 1 domains in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B267792A-DF96-41C7-A3CF-3E84C1FE17A0}




Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : laptop

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x
Family Fast Ethernet NIC

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0A-E4-47-A3-96

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 14 August 2006 14:16:07

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 14 August 2006 15:16:07


Computer name \\LAPTOP
Full Computer name laptop
User name Guy

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{B267792A-DF96-41C7-A3CF-3E84C1FE17A0}
(000AE447A396)

Software version Windows 2002

Workstation domain WORKGROUP
Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
Logon domain LAPTOP

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully.

Server Name \\LAPTOP
Server Comment

Software version Windows 2002
Server is active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{B267792A-DF96-41C7-A3CF-3E84C1FE17A0}
(000ae447a396)


Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 10
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.

------------------------------PC3 follows----------------------



Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0DDD7A71-7618-4064-B188-E300B56CA41A}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: NUMBER_1
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master NUMBER_1
\\NUMBER_1
There are 3 servers in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0DDD7A71-7618-4064-B188-E300B56CA41A}
There are 1 domains in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0DDD7A71-7618-4064-B188-E300B56CA41A}



Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : number_1

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x
Family Fast Ethernet NIC

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-FC-72-4E-B9

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.4

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 14 August 2006 14:06:25

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 14 August 2006 15:06:25

Computer name \\NUMBER_1
Full Computer name number_1
User name Guy

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{0DDD7A71-7618-4064-B188-E300B56CA41A}
(0050FC724EB9)

Software version Windows 2002

Workstation domain WORKGROUP
Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
Logon domain NUMBER_1

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully.

Server Name \\NUMBER_1
Server Comment

Software version Windows 2002
Server is active on
NetBT_Tcpip_{0DDD7A71-7618-4064-B188-E300B56CA41A}
(0050fc724eb9)
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)


Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 10
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.


Okay Chuck, I hope I have not missed anything out. Needless to say, if
anything is not clear, just ask.

--
Cheers,

Guy

** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
** out of someone who richly deserves it.
 
Hi Chuck,

Here's the info you requested. The node type shows as broadcast on PC
2 as I was trying some troubleshooting myself using your site.

I also have an NVidia motherboard here and uninstalled and reinstalled
my drivers here without any effect.

All Pcs are Win XP Pro, SP2, latest patches applied (i.e. including
those from last few days).

Sorry, but my Usenet client is word wrapping (line length limited to
70). I have uploaded the files to my web site if you prefer to read
them unwrapped; they're here http://www.drteeth.co.uk/lan

The word wrap on Usenet is normal, unfortunately. Thanks for your sensitivity
though.

Now, I will work on this with you, if you wish to continue. But I'll ask you to
read my nVidia article, and in particularly the link at the end, which goes to a
post in this forum, which refers to a second thread in this forum, that ended
just last week.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/02/hidden-personal-firewall-nvidia-nforce.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/02/hidden-personal-firewall-nvidia-nforce.html
 
I was just thinking how wonderful life was, when Chuck
Now, I will work on this with you, if you wish to continue. But I'll ask you to
read my nVidia article, and in particularly the link at the end, which goes to a
post in this forum, which refers to a second thread in this forum, that ended
just last week.

I have read the article. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the latest
NVidia drivers and am downloading some previous drivers to see if they
will help.

I'm just puzzled why the problem is limited to two Pcs ( 1+2) on my
LAN whilst PCs 2+3 work 110% normally together.

--
Cheers,

Guy

** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
** out of someone who richly deserves it.
 
I was just thinking how wonderful life was, when Chuck


I have read the article. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the latest
NVidia drivers and am downloading some previous drivers to see if they
will help.

I'm just puzzled why the problem is limited to two Pcs ( 1+2) on my
LAN whilst PCs 2+3 work 110% normally together.

Guy,

Do you have nVidia on the others? Did you read the specific instructions
provided by Jack Clarke?
 
I was just thinking how wonderful life was, when Chuck


I have read the article. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the latest
NVidia drivers and am downloading some previous drivers to see if they
will help.

I'm just puzzled why the problem is limited to two Pcs ( 1+2) on my
LAN whilst PCs 2+3 work 110% normally together.

Guy,

Did you read the specific instructions provided by Jack Clarke?

I see that Laptop and Number_1 both use Realtek. This makes me stronger suspect
that the problem starts with nVidia.
 
I was just thinking how wonderful life was, when Chuck
Did you read the specific instructions provided by Jack Clarke?

I did not see any specific instructions from Jack. It's not just his
head that was spinning.
I see that Laptop and Number_1 both use Realtek. This makes me stronger suspect
that the problem starts with nVidia.

I have taken the nVidia completely out of the equation by uninstalling
the NV LAN drivers *and* disabling it in the BIOS. I installed a spare
Realtek card that I had hanging around and the result is the same.
Using the stock MSoft drivers ATM, about to update to latest Realtek
ones.

I shall keep things that way until things get sorted.

One thing that I have noticed with the PC2 (laptop) is that it is not
possible to disable the LAN connection. The 'error disabling
connection' box says that one or more protocols may be used that do
not support plug-and-play or it may have been initiated by another
user or account. This does not explain why PC3 can interact okay with
laptop though.

TIA.

--
Cheers,

Guy

** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
** out of someone who richly deserves it.
 
I was just thinking how wonderful life was, when Dr Teeth
I did not see any specific instructions from Jack. It's not just his
head that was spinning.

Sorry for replying to myself. Chuck, Jacks comments did not apply as I
never installed NVIDIA Firewall and Forceware Network
Access Manager. During a recent uninstall and reinstall of the drivers
as a result of your thread with Jack, I made doubly sure that these
bits did not get installed.

A tad academic now as I'm Realtek powered <g>.

--
Cheers,

Guy

** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
** out of someone who richly deserves it.
 
I was just thinking how wonderful life was, when Dr Teeth


Sorry for replying to myself. Chuck, Jacks comments did not apply as I
never installed NVIDIA Firewall and Forceware Network
Access Manager. During a recent uninstall and reinstall of the drivers
as a result of your thread with Jack, I made doubly sure that these
bits did not get installed.

A tad academic now as I'm Realtek powered <g>.

Guy,

I don't think you quite got the experience that Jack related. He installed (or
un installed) drivers, but the drivers for the nVidia NIC were not the problem.
The problem was the firewall itself. And if you look upwards in the thread,
you'll see that I had him enumerate the winsock, as many firewalls are installed
with links in the LSP / Winsock. But no trace of the firewall was seen there.

So you may state that you're nVidia free, and maybe you are. But be very sure,
because Jack was sure for several days. And found out that he had been wrong,
and found nVidia to be the problem.

Anyway, it's your computer. I'm not looking at it with you. So if the problem
isn't the NIC, what's the problem?

Let's look at the updated diagnostics, to start. I install a network
diagnostics script, ccdiag.cmd, on each of my computers, something like
@echo off
@echo Start CCDiag for %computername% >c:\ccdiag.txt
ipconfig /all >>c:\ccdiag.txt
browstat status >>c:\ccdiag.txt
net config server >>c:\ccdiag.txt
net config workstation >>c:\ccdiag.txt
net share >>c:\ccdiag.txt
net view >>c:\ccdiag.txt
@echo End CCDiag for %computername% >>c:\ccdiag.txt
notepad c:\ccdiag.txt

Yet another PChuck script. Maybe it will help us though. I run CCDiag
periodically, when something funky is happening.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/command-window.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/command-window.html
 
Hi Chuck,
So you may state that you're nVidia free, and maybe you are. But be very sure,
because Jack was sure for several days. And found out that he had been wrong,
and found nVidia to be the problem.

Even though sure I'm nVidia free [this PC is 6 months old and I have
never installed the firewall software only the ethernet drivers], I
enumerated the TCP/IP stack twice. Once using the command line on your
site and once using the software from MSKB 299357. I had previously
used WinSock XP Fix 1.2.exe as well (before we 'met').
Anyway, it's your computer. I'm not looking at it with you. So if the problem
isn't the NIC, what's the problem?

I realise that it is important that I follow a logical route for you
to be able to help me, so I will always do what you ask. I did notice
earlier today that PC1 and PC2 would not show any servers under the
workgroup name *unless* PC3 was switched on. A red herring or vital
clue <g>?

The text of the various ccdiag files are posted below as well as on my
web site www.drteeth.co.uk/lan, to avoid word-wrap.

-----------------PC1----------------------

Start CCDiag for TARDIS_2
Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . :
TARDIS_2 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type
.. . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . .
.. . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : NoEthernet adapter
Local Area Connection 6: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Ethernet NIC Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
00-50-FC-72-4E-BC Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . .
.. . . . . : 192.168.1.2 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . :
255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254 DNS Servers .
.. . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254 Lease Obtained. . . . . . .
.. . . : 15 August 2006 20:20:41 Lease Expires . . . . . . . . .
.. : 15 August 2006 21:20:41

Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{9470EF23-A69A-4E94-A608-F7B0F055C364}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: NUMBER_1
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master NUMBER_1
\\NUMBER_1
There are 3 servers in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{9470EF23-A69A-4E94-A608-F7B0F055C364}
There are 1 domains in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{9470EF23-A69A-4E94-A608-F7B0F055C364}
Server Name \\TARDIS_2
Server Comment

Software version Windows 2002
Server is active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{9470EF23-A69A-4E94-A608-F7B0F055C364}
(0050fc724ebc)


Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 10
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.

Computer name \\TARDIS_2
Full Computer name TARDIS_2
User name Guy

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{9470EF23-A69A-4E94-A608-F7B0F055C364}
(0050FC724EBC)

Software version Windows 2002

Workstation domain WORKGROUP
Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
Logon domain TARDIS_2

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully.


Share name Resource Remark

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
E$ E:\ Default share
IPC$ Remote IPC
D$ D:\ Default share
C$ C:\ Default share
print$ C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\drivers
Printer Drivers
ADMIN$ C:\WINDOWS Remote Admin
Y$ Y:\ Default share
F$ F:\ Default share
SharedDocs C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\ALL USERS\DOCUMENTS

Tardis-2 D D:\
test_F F:\
Printer FaxModem (Photo Qualit Spooled Print to this device to
send a pho
Printer2 FaxModem Spooled Print to this device to
send a fax
Printer3 LPT1: Spooled Samsung ML-2250 Series
PCL 6
Printer4 LPT1: Spooled Samsung ML-2250 Series
Printer5 USB001 Spooled Canon i865
The command completed successfully.

Server Name Remark

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
\\LAPTOP
\\NUMBER_1
\\TARDIS_2
The command completed successfully.

End CCDiag for TARDIS_2


----------------PC2-----------------------------
Start CCDiag for LAPTOP
Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . :
laptop Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type .
.. . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast IP Routing Enabled. . . . . .
.. . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : NoEthernet adapter
Local Area Connection 2: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Ethernet NIC Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
00-0A-E4-47-A3-96 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . .
.. . . . . : 192.168.1.3 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . :
255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254 DNS Servers .
.. . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254 Lease Obtained. . . . . . .
.. . . : 15 August 2006 20:24:54 Lease Expires . . . . . . . . .
.. : 15 August 2006 21:24:54

Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B267792A-DF96-41C7-A3CF-3E84C1FE17A0}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: NUMBER_1
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master NUMBER_1
\\NUMBER_1
There are 3 servers in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B267792A-DF96-41C7-A3CF-3E84C1FE17A0}
There are 1 domains in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B267792A-DF96-41C7-A3CF-3E84C1FE17A0}
Server Name \\LAPTOP
Server Comment

Software version Windows 2002
Server is active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{B267792A-DF96-41C7-A3CF-3E84C1FE17A0}
(000ae447a396)


Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 10
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.

Computer name \\LAPTOP
Full Computer name laptop
User name Guy

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{B267792A-DF96-41C7-A3CF-3E84C1FE17A0}
(000AE447A396)

Software version Windows 2002

Workstation domain WORKGROUP
Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
Logon domain LAPTOP

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully.


Share name Resource Remark

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
C$ C:\ Default share
ADMIN$ C:\WINDOWS Remote Admin
IPC$ Remote IPC
Laptop C:\
SharedDocs C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents

The command completed successfully.

Server Name Remark

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
\\LAPTOP
\\NUMBER_1
\\TARDIS_2
The command completed successfully.

End CCDiag for LAPTOP

---------------------------PC3--------------------
Start CCDiag for NUMBER_1
Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . :
number_1 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type
.. . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . .
.. . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : NoEthernet adapter
Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Ethernet NIC Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
00-50-FC-72-4E-B9 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . .
.. . . . . : 192.168.1.4 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . :
255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254 DNS Servers .
.. . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254 Lease Obtained. . . . . . .
.. . . : 15 August 2006 20:25:29 Lease Expires . . . . . . . . .
.. : 15 August 2006 21:25:29

Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0DDD7A71-7618-4064-B188-E300B56CA41A}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: NUMBER_1
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master NUMBER_1
\\NUMBER_1
There are 3 servers in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0DDD7A71-7618-4064-B188-E300B56CA41A}
There are 1 domains in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0DDD7A71-7618-4064-B188-E300B56CA41A}
Server Name \\NUMBER_1
Server Comment

Software version Windows 2002
Server is active on
NetBT_Tcpip_{0DDD7A71-7618-4064-B188-E300B56CA41A}
(0050fc724eb9)
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)


Server hidden No
Maximum Logged On Users 10
Maximum open files per session 16384

Idle session time (min) 15
The command completed successfully.

Computer name \\NUMBER_1
Full Computer name number_1
User name Guy

Workstation active on
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{0DDD7A71-7618-4064-B188-E300B56CA41A}
(0050FC724EB9)

Software version Windows 2002

Workstation domain WORKGROUP
Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
Logon domain NUMBER_1

COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
COM Send Count (byte) 16
COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
The command completed successfully.


Share name Resource Remark

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
IPC$ Remote IPC
print$ C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\drivers
Printer Drivers
ADMIN$ C:\WINDOWS Remote Admin
C$ C:\ Default share
DVD on 1 H:\
Number_1 C:\ WinXP-NTFS
SharedDocs C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\ALL USERS\DOCUMENTS

EPSON R300 USB001 Spooled EPSON R300
Printer Microsoft Document Ima Spooled Microsoft Office Document
Image Wr
The command completed successfully.

Server Name Remark

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
\\LAPTOP
\\NUMBER_1
\\TARDIS_2
The command completed successfully.

End CCDiag for NUMBER_1

TIA.




--
Cheers,

Guy

** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
** out of someone who richly deserves it.
 
Hi Chuck,
So you may state that you're nVidia free, and maybe you are. But be very sure,
because Jack was sure for several days. And found out that he had been wrong,
and found nVidia to be the problem.

Even though sure I'm nVidia free [this PC is 6 months old and I have
never installed the firewall software only the ethernet drivers], I
enumerated the TCP/IP stack twice. Once using the command line on your
site and once using the software from MSKB 299357. I had previously
used WinSock XP Fix 1.2.exe as well (before we 'met').
Anyway, it's your computer. I'm not looking at it with you. So if the problem
isn't the NIC, what's the problem?

I realise that it is important that I follow a logical route for you
to be able to help me, so I will always do what you ask. I did notice
earlier today that PC1 and PC2 would not show any servers under the
workgroup name *unless* PC3 was switched on. A red herring or vital
clue <g>?

Guy,

All 3 computers recognise NUMBER_1 ("PC3") as the master browser, and all 3
computers are recognising each other's presence. The master browser must be on
for either TARDIS_2 or LAPTOP to see each other. You could make either TARDIS_2
or LAPTOP a backup browser, but as soon as you were to carry that computer away
from the network, so it were to lose connectivity with NUMBER_1, it would elect
itself a master browser. You would end up with a workgroup with 2 master
browsers, ie a segmented workgroup.

Other than that, right now I can see no other problem.

Your original problem reported stated that The problem is that PC1 can not see
PC2; PC3 can see PC2; PC1 can see PC3. That is but 3 relationships out of 6.
How about PC2 to PC1 and PC3, and PC3 to PC1.

Check and make sure that NetBT is consistently set on all 3 computers.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html

Or, if you like, we can do relational analysis.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-cdiag-without-assistance.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-cdiag-without-assistance.html

Take the following code (everything INSIDE the "#####" lines). Please DO NOT
include ANY portion of the "#####" lines. (Please verify computer names and ip
addresses).

1. Open Notepad. Ensure that Format - Word Wrap is not checked. Highlight
then Copy the code (Ctrl-C), precisely as it is presented, and Paste (Ctrl-V)
into Notepad. Verify, and correct, names and addresses if necessary.
2. Save the Notepad file as "cdiag.cmd", as type "All Files", into the root
folder "C:\".
3. Run it by Start - Run - "c:\cdiag".
4. Wait patiently.
5. When Notepad opens up displaying c:\cdiag.txt, first check Format and
ensure that Word Wrap is NOT checked! Then, copy the entire contents (Ctrl-A
Ctrl-C) and paste (Ctrl-V) into your next post.

Do this from all computers, please, with all computers powered up and online.

##### Start CDiag Assembled Code

@echo off
set FullTarget1=TARDIS_2 192.168.1.2
set FullTarget2=LAPTOP 192.168.1.3
set FullTarget3=NUMBER_1 192.168.1.4
set FullTarget4=
set FullTargets=%FullTarget1% %FullTarget2% %FullTarget3% %FullTarget4%
set FullTargets=%FullTargets% 127.0.0.1
set PingTargets=www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.32 192.168.1.254
Set Version=V1.40
@echo CDiagnosis %Version% >c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Start diagnosis for %computername% >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Full Targets %FullTargets% >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Ping Targets %PingTargets% >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Over All Analysis >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Enumerate Shares >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
net share >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Adhoc Browser View >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
net view >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Full Targets Analysis %FullTargets% >>c:\cdiag.txt
for %%a in (%FullTargets%) do (
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Target %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "%computername% ping %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
ping %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "%computername% net view %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
net view %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
)
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Ping Targets Analysis %PingTargets% >>c:\cdiag.txt
for %%a in (%PingTargets%) do (
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Target %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "%computername% ping %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
ping %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
)
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo End diagnosis for %computername% >>c:\cdiag.txt
notepad c:\cdiag.txt
:EOF

##### End CDiag Assembled Code
 
Hi Chuck,
All 3 computers recognise NUMBER_1 ("PC3") as the master browser, and all 3
computers are recognising each other's presence. The master browser must be on
for either TARDIS_2 or LAPTOP to see each other. You could make either TARDIS_2
or LAPTOP a backup browser, but as soon as you were to carry that computer away
from the network, so it were to lose connectivity with NUMBER_1, it would elect
itself a master browser. You would end up with a workgroup with 2 master
browsers, ie a segmented workgroup.

Other than that, right now I can see no other problem.

How does one make a PC a master browser? I was not aware that such a
thing existed and am sure (as much as I can be at any rate) that any
two of my PCs could be on and connect/interact 100% with each other,
i.e. a 'master' was not needed.
Your original problem reported stated that The problem is that PC1 can not see
PC2; PC3 can see PC2; PC1 can see PC3. That is but 3 relationships out of 6.
How about PC2 to PC1 and PC3, and PC3 to PC1.

Not exactly correct. PC1 can see both PC2 and PC3. It can only browse
PC3, trying to browse PC2 results in an error, screen captured here:
www.drteeth.co.uk/lan/LANerror.jpg. This also happens when PC2 tries
to connect to PC1; again, the name of the PC is visible. I have
uploaded a diagram of the problem, www.drteeth.co.uk/lan/LANprob.jpg.
Check and make sure that NetBT is consistently set on all 3 computers.

I can confirm that it is set to 'enabled' on all PCs, I changed them
all from the default.

Here's the outputs of the cdiag.txt files, as usual, I have uploaded
them to my site. In future, do you prefer files here (word-wrapped) or
au naturelle on my web site?

-----------------PC1-------------------------------
CDiagnosis V1.40
Start diagnosis for TARDIS_2
Full Targets TARDIS_2 192.168.1.2 LAPTOP 192.168.1.3 NUMBER_1
192.168.1.4 127.0.0.1
Ping Targets www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.32 192.168.1.254

Over All Analysis

Enumerate Shares


Share name Resource Remark

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
E$ E:\ Default share
IPC$ Remote IPC
D$ D:\ Default share
Y$ Y:\ Default share
print$ C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\drivers
Printer Drivers
ADMIN$ C:\WINDOWS Remote Admin
C$ C:\ Default share
F$ F:\ Default share
SharedDocs C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\ALL USERS\DOCUMENTS

Tardis-2 D D:\
Printer FaxModem (Photo Qualit Spooled Print to this device to
send a pho
Printer2 FaxModem Spooled Print to this device to
send a fax
Printer3 LPT1: Spooled Samsung ML-2250 Series
PCL 6
Printer4 LPT1: Spooled Samsung ML-2250 Series
Printer5 USB001 Spooled Canon i865
The command completed successfully.


Adhoc Browser View

Server Name Remark

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
\\LAPTOP
\\NUMBER_1
\\TARDIS_2
The command completed successfully.


Full Targets Analysis TARDIS_2 192.168.1.2 LAPTOP 192.168.1.3 NUMBER_1
192.168.1.4 127.0.0.1

Target TARDIS_2

"TARDIS_2 ping TARDIS_2"



Pinging TARDIS_2 [192.168.1.2] with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.2:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"TARDIS_2 net view TARDIS_2"

Shared resources at TARDIS_2



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Printer Print Print to this device to send a photo
quality fax.
Printer2 Print Print to this device to send a fax.
Printer3 Print Samsung ML-2250 Series PCL 6
Printer4 Print Samsung ML-2250 Series
Printer5 Print Canon i865
SharedDocs Disk
Tardis-2 D Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.1.2

"TARDIS_2 ping 192.168.1.2"



Pinging 192.168.1.2 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.2:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"TARDIS_2 net view 192.168.1.2"

Shared resources at 192.168.1.2



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Printer Print Print to this device to send a photo
quality fax.
Printer2 Print Print to this device to send a fax.
Printer3 Print Samsung ML-2250 Series PCL 6
Printer4 Print Samsung ML-2250 Series
Printer5 Print Canon i865
SharedDocs Disk
Tardis-2 D Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target LAPTOP

"TARDIS_2 ping LAPTOP"

Ping request could not find host LAPTOP. Please check the name and try
again.


"TARDIS_2 net view LAPTOP"


Target 192.168.1.3

"TARDIS_2 ping 192.168.1.3"



Pinging 192.168.1.3 with 32 bytes of data:



Request timed out.

Request timed out.

Request timed out.

Request timed out.



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.3:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),


"TARDIS_2 net view 192.168.1.3"


Target NUMBER_1

"TARDIS_2 ping NUMBER_1"



Pinging NUMBER_1 [192.168.1.4] with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.4:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"TARDIS_2 net view NUMBER_1"

Shared resources at NUMBER_1



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DVD on 1 Disk
EPSON R300 Print EPSON R300
Number_1 Disk WinXP-NTFS
Printer Print Microsoft Office Document Image Writer
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.1.4

"TARDIS_2 ping 192.168.1.4"



Pinging 192.168.1.4 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.4:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"TARDIS_2 net view 192.168.1.4"

Shared resources at 192.168.1.4



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DVD on 1 Disk
EPSON R300 Print EPSON R300
Number_1 Disk WinXP-NTFS
Printer Print Microsoft Office Document Image Writer
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 127.0.0.1

"TARDIS_2 ping 127.0.0.1"



Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64



Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"TARDIS_2 net view 127.0.0.1"

Shared resources at 127.0.0.1



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Printer Print Print to this device to send a photo
quality fax.
Printer2 Print Print to this device to send a fax.
Printer3 Print Samsung ML-2250 Series PCL 6
Printer4 Print Samsung ML-2250 Series
Printer5 Print Canon i865
SharedDocs Disk
Tardis-2 D Disk
The command completed successfully.


Ping Targets Analysis www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.32 192.168.1.254

Target www.yahoo.com

"TARDIS_2 ping www.yahoo.com"



Pinging www.yahoo.akadns.net [209.73.186.238] with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 209.73.186.238: bytes=32 time=116ms TTL=54

Reply from 209.73.186.238: bytes=32 time=112ms TTL=51

Reply from 209.73.186.238: bytes=32 time=108ms TTL=51

Reply from 209.73.186.238: bytes=32 time=115ms TTL=51



Ping statistics for 209.73.186.238:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 108ms, Maximum = 116ms, Average = 112ms


Target 66.94.230.32

"TARDIS_2 ping 66.94.230.32"



Pinging 66.94.230.32 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=180ms TTL=51

Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=179ms TTL=51

Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=181ms TTL=51

Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=180ms TTL=51



Ping statistics for 66.94.230.32:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 179ms, Maximum = 181ms, Average = 180ms


Target 192.168.1.254

"TARDIS_2 ping 192.168.1.254"



Pinging 192.168.1.254 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.254:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


End diagnosis for TARDIS_2


--------------------------------PC2-----------------------
CDiagnosis V1.40
Start diagnosis for TARDIS_2
Full Targets TARDIS_2 192.168.1.2 LAPTOP 192.168.1.3 NUMBER_1
192.168.1.4 127.0.0.1
Ping Targets www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.32 192.168.1.254

Over All Analysis

Enumerate Shares


Share name Resource Remark

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
E$ E:\ Default share
IPC$ Remote IPC
D$ D:\ Default share
Y$ Y:\ Default share
print$ C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\drivers
Printer Drivers
ADMIN$ C:\WINDOWS Remote Admin
C$ C:\ Default share
F$ F:\ Default share
SharedDocs C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\ALL USERS\DOCUMENTS

Tardis-2 D D:\
Printer FaxModem (Photo Qualit Spooled Print to this device to
send a pho
Printer2 FaxModem Spooled Print to this device to
send a fax
Printer3 LPT1: Spooled Samsung ML-2250 Series
PCL 6
Printer4 LPT1: Spooled Samsung ML-2250 Series
Printer5 USB001 Spooled Canon i865
The command completed successfully.


Adhoc Browser View

Server Name Remark

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
\\LAPTOP
\\NUMBER_1
\\TARDIS_2
The command completed successfully.


Full Targets Analysis TARDIS_2 192.168.1.2 LAPTOP 192.168.1.3 NUMBER_1
192.168.1.4 127.0.0.1

Target TARDIS_2

"TARDIS_2 ping TARDIS_2"



Pinging TARDIS_2 [192.168.1.2] with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.2:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"TARDIS_2 net view TARDIS_2"

Shared resources at TARDIS_2



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Printer Print Print to this device to send a photo
quality fax.
Printer2 Print Print to this device to send a fax.
Printer3 Print Samsung ML-2250 Series PCL 6
Printer4 Print Samsung ML-2250 Series
Printer5 Print Canon i865
SharedDocs Disk
Tardis-2 D Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.1.2

"TARDIS_2 ping 192.168.1.2"



Pinging 192.168.1.2 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.2:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"TARDIS_2 net view 192.168.1.2"

Shared resources at 192.168.1.2



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Printer Print Print to this device to send a photo
quality fax.
Printer2 Print Print to this device to send a fax.
Printer3 Print Samsung ML-2250 Series PCL 6
Printer4 Print Samsung ML-2250 Series
Printer5 Print Canon i865
SharedDocs Disk
Tardis-2 D Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target LAPTOP

"TARDIS_2 ping LAPTOP"

Ping request could not find host LAPTOP. Please check the name and try
again.


"TARDIS_2 net view LAPTOP"


Target 192.168.1.3

"TARDIS_2 ping 192.168.1.3"



Pinging 192.168.1.3 with 32 bytes of data:



Request timed out.

Request timed out.

Request timed out.

Request timed out.



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.3:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),


"TARDIS_2 net view 192.168.1.3"


Target NUMBER_1

"TARDIS_2 ping NUMBER_1"



Pinging NUMBER_1 [192.168.1.4] with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.4:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"TARDIS_2 net view NUMBER_1"

Shared resources at NUMBER_1



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DVD on 1 Disk
EPSON R300 Print EPSON R300
Number_1 Disk WinXP-NTFS
Printer Print Microsoft Office Document Image Writer
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.1.4

"TARDIS_2 ping 192.168.1.4"



Pinging 192.168.1.4 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.4:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"TARDIS_2 net view 192.168.1.4"

Shared resources at 192.168.1.4



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DVD on 1 Disk
EPSON R300 Print EPSON R300
Number_1 Disk WinXP-NTFS
Printer Print Microsoft Office Document Image Writer
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 127.0.0.1

"TARDIS_2 ping 127.0.0.1"



Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64



Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"TARDIS_2 net view 127.0.0.1"

Shared resources at 127.0.0.1



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Printer Print Print to this device to send a photo
quality fax.
Printer2 Print Print to this device to send a fax.
Printer3 Print Samsung ML-2250 Series PCL 6
Printer4 Print Samsung ML-2250 Series
Printer5 Print Canon i865
SharedDocs Disk
Tardis-2 D Disk
The command completed successfully.


Ping Targets Analysis www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.32 192.168.1.254

Target www.yahoo.com

"TARDIS_2 ping www.yahoo.com"



Pinging www.yahoo.akadns.net [209.73.186.238] with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 209.73.186.238: bytes=32 time=116ms TTL=54

Reply from 209.73.186.238: bytes=32 time=112ms TTL=51

Reply from 209.73.186.238: bytes=32 time=108ms TTL=51

Reply from 209.73.186.238: bytes=32 time=115ms TTL=51



Ping statistics for 209.73.186.238:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 108ms, Maximum = 116ms, Average = 112ms


Target 66.94.230.32

"TARDIS_2 ping 66.94.230.32"



Pinging 66.94.230.32 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=180ms TTL=51

Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=179ms TTL=51

Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=181ms TTL=51

Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=180ms TTL=51



Ping statistics for 66.94.230.32:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 179ms, Maximum = 181ms, Average = 180ms


Target 192.168.1.254

"TARDIS_2 ping 192.168.1.254"



Pinging 192.168.1.254 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.254:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


End diagnosis for TARDIS_2

------------------------------PC3------------------------
CDiagnosis V1.40
Start diagnosis for NUMBER_1
Full Targets TARDIS_2 192.168.1.2 LAPTOP 192.168.1.3 NUMBER_1
192.168.1.4 127.0.0.1
Ping Targets www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.32 192.168.1.254

Over All Analysis

Enumerate Shares


Share name Resource Remark

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
IPC$ Remote IPC
print$ C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\drivers
Printer Drivers
ADMIN$ C:\WINDOWS Remote Admin
C$ C:\ Default share
DVD on 1 H:\
Number_1 C:\ WinXP-NTFS
SharedDocs C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\ALL USERS\DOCUMENTS

EPSON R300 USB001 Spooled EPSON R300
Printer Microsoft Document Ima Spooled Microsoft Office Document
Image Wr
The command completed successfully.


Adhoc Browser View

Server Name Remark

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
\\LAPTOP
\\NUMBER_1
\\TARDIS_2
The command completed successfully.


Full Targets Analysis TARDIS_2 192.168.1.2 LAPTOP 192.168.1.3 NUMBER_1
192.168.1.4 127.0.0.1

Target TARDIS_2

"NUMBER_1 ping TARDIS_2"



Pinging TARDIS_2 [192.168.1.2] with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.2:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"NUMBER_1 net view TARDIS_2"

Shared resources at TARDIS_2



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Printer Print Print to this device to send a photo
quality fax.
Printer2 Print Print to this device to send a fax.
Printer3 Print Samsung ML-2250 Series PCL 6
Printer4 Print Samsung ML-2250 Series
Printer5 Print Canon i865
SharedDocs Disk
Tardis-2 D Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.1.2

"NUMBER_1 ping 192.168.1.2"



Pinging 192.168.1.2 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.2:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 3ms, Average = 0ms


"NUMBER_1 net view 192.168.1.2"

Shared resources at 192.168.1.2



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Printer Print Print to this device to send a photo
quality fax.
Printer2 Print Print to this device to send a fax.
Printer3 Print Samsung ML-2250 Series PCL 6
Printer4 Print Samsung ML-2250 Series
Printer5 Print Canon i865
SharedDocs Disk
Tardis-2 D Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target LAPTOP

"NUMBER_1 ping LAPTOP"



Pinging LAPTOP [192.168.1.3] with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.3:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"NUMBER_1 net view LAPTOP"

Shared resources at LAPTOP



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Laptop Disk
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.1.3

"NUMBER_1 ping 192.168.1.3"



Pinging 192.168.1.3 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.3:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"NUMBER_1 net view 192.168.1.3"

Shared resources at 192.168.1.3



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Laptop Disk
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target NUMBER_1

"NUMBER_1 ping NUMBER_1"



Pinging number_1 [192.168.1.4] with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.4:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"NUMBER_1 net view NUMBER_1"

Shared resources at NUMBER_1



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DVD on 1 Disk
EPSON R300 Print EPSON R300
Number_1 Disk WinXP-NTFS
Printer Print Microsoft Office Document Image Writer
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.1.4

"NUMBER_1 ping 192.168.1.4"



Pinging 192.168.1.4 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.4:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"NUMBER_1 net view 192.168.1.4"

Shared resources at 192.168.1.4



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DVD on 1 Disk
EPSON R300 Print EPSON R300
Number_1 Disk WinXP-NTFS
Printer Print Microsoft Office Document Image Writer
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 127.0.0.1

"NUMBER_1 ping 127.0.0.1"



Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64



Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"NUMBER_1 net view 127.0.0.1"

Shared resources at 127.0.0.1



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DVD on 1 Disk
EPSON R300 Print EPSON R300
Number_1 Disk WinXP-NTFS
Printer Print Microsoft Office Document Image Writer
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Ping Targets Analysis www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.32 192.168.1.254

Target www.yahoo.com

"NUMBER_1 ping www.yahoo.com"



Pinging www.yahoo.akadns.net [209.73.186.238] with 32 bytes of data:



Request timed out.

Reply from 209.73.186.238: bytes=32 time=121ms TTL=51

Reply from 209.73.186.238: bytes=32 time=108ms TTL=51

Reply from 209.73.186.238: bytes=32 time=103ms TTL=54



Ping statistics for 209.73.186.238:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 3, Lost = 1 (25% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 103ms, Maximum = 121ms, Average = 110ms


Target 66.94.230.32

"NUMBER_1 ping 66.94.230.32"



Pinging 66.94.230.32 with 32 bytes of data:



Request timed out.

Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=180ms TTL=51

Request timed out.

Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=181ms TTL=51



Ping statistics for 66.94.230.32:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 2, Lost = 2 (50% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 180ms, Maximum = 181ms, Average = 180ms


Target 192.168.1.254

"NUMBER_1 ping 192.168.1.254"



Pinging 192.168.1.254 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.254:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


End diagnosis for NUMBER_1


Thanks for your continued support.


--
Cheers,

Guy

** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
** out of someone who richly deserves it.
 
Hi Chuck,


How does one make a PC a master browser? I was not aware that such a
thing existed and am sure (as much as I can be at any rate) that any
two of my PCs could be on and connect/interact 100% with each other,
i.e. a 'master' was not needed.


Not exactly correct. PC1 can see both PC2 and PC3. It can only browse
PC3, trying to browse PC2 results in an error, screen captured here:
www.drteeth.co.uk/lan/LANerror.jpg. This also happens when PC2 tries
to connect to PC1; again, the name of the PC is visible. I have
uploaded a diagram of the problem, www.drteeth.co.uk/lan/LANprob.jpg.


I can confirm that it is set to 'enabled' on all PCs, I changed them
all from the default.

Here's the outputs of the cdiag.txt files, as usual, I have uploaded
them to my site. In future, do you prefer files here (word-wrapped) or
au naturelle on my web site?

Guy,

Attached here is fine, generally. Google will provide this for us, with no
problem.

But you could provide us CDiag log for Laptop, instead of for TARDIS_2 twice.

Now the browser issue, and master browser elections, are a lot of fun to deal
with. The NT browser is a peer-peer service, with a master browser being
elected by all of the computers running the browser service. Master browser
conflicts arise when more than one computer elects itself a master browser. Or
sometimes there is no browser to become the master browser. Read my article for
details please.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html
 
I was just thinking how wonderful life was, when Chuck
But you could provide us CDiag log for Laptop, instead of for TARDIS_2 twice.

I wondered when I'd get caught out with that one! here's CDiag log for
Laptop:-

CDiagnosis V1.40
Start diagnosis for LAPTOP
Full Targets TARDIS_2 192.168.1.2 LAPTOP 192.168.1.3 NUMBER_1
192.168.1.4 127.0.0.1
Ping Targets www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.32 192.168.1.254

Over All Analysis

Enumerate Shares


Share name Resource Remark

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
C$ C:\ Default share
ADMIN$ C:\WINDOWS Remote Admin
IPC$ Remote IPC
Laptop C:\
SharedDocs C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents

The command completed successfully.


Adhoc Browser View

Server Name Remark

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
\\LAPTOP
\\NUMBER_1
\\TARDIS_2
The command completed successfully.


Full Targets Analysis TARDIS_2 192.168.1.2 LAPTOP 192.168.1.3 NUMBER_1
192.168.1.4 127.0.0.1

Target TARDIS_2

"LAPTOP ping TARDIS_2"

Ping request could not find host TARDIS_2. Please check the name and
try again.


"LAPTOP net view TARDIS_2"


Target 192.168.1.2

"LAPTOP ping 192.168.1.2"



Pinging 192.168.1.2 with 32 bytes of data:



Request timed out.

Request timed out.

Request timed out.

Request timed out.



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.2:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),


"LAPTOP net view 192.168.1.2"


Target LAPTOP

"LAPTOP ping LAPTOP"



Pinging laptop [192.168.1.3] with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.3:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"LAPTOP net view LAPTOP"

Shared resources at LAPTOP



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Laptop Disk
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.1.3

"LAPTOP ping 192.168.1.3"



Pinging 192.168.1.3 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.3: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.3:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"LAPTOP net view 192.168.1.3"

Shared resources at 192.168.1.3



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Laptop Disk
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target NUMBER_1

"LAPTOP ping NUMBER_1"



Pinging NUMBER_1 [192.168.1.4] with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.4:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"LAPTOP net view NUMBER_1"

Shared resources at NUMBER_1



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DVD on 1 Disk
EPSON R300 Print EPSON R300
Number_1 Disk WinXP-NTFS
Printer Print Microsoft Office Document Image Writer
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 192.168.1.4

"LAPTOP ping 192.168.1.4"



Pinging 192.168.1.4 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.4:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"LAPTOP net view 192.168.1.4"

Shared resources at 192.168.1.4



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DVD on 1 Disk
EPSON R300 Print EPSON R300
Number_1 Disk WinXP-NTFS
Printer Print Microsoft Office Document Image Writer
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Target 127.0.0.1

"LAPTOP ping 127.0.0.1"



Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


"LAPTOP net view 127.0.0.1"

Shared resources at 127.0.0.1



Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Laptop Disk
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.


Ping Targets Analysis www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.32 192.168.1.254

Target www.yahoo.com

"LAPTOP ping www.yahoo.com"



Pinging www.yahoo.akadns.net [209.73.186.238] with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 209.73.186.238: bytes=32 time=119ms TTL=54

Reply from 209.73.186.238: bytes=32 time=118ms TTL=54

Reply from 209.73.186.238: bytes=32 time=119ms TTL=51

Reply from 209.73.186.238: bytes=32 time=118ms TTL=51



Ping statistics for 209.73.186.238:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 118ms, Maximum = 119ms, Average = 118ms


Target 66.94.230.32

"LAPTOP ping 66.94.230.32"



Pinging 66.94.230.32 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=180ms TTL=51

Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=179ms TTL=51

Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=179ms TTL=51

Reply from 66.94.230.32: bytes=32 time=192ms TTL=51



Ping statistics for 66.94.230.32:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 179ms, Maximum = 192ms, Average = 182ms


Target 192.168.1.254

"LAPTOP ping 192.168.1.254"



Pinging 192.168.1.254 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.254:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms


End diagnosis for LAPTOP


Hope it helps.

Thanks.

--
Cheers,

Guy

** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
** out of someone who richly deserves it.
 
I was just thinking how wonderful life was, when Chuck


I wondered when I'd get caught out with that one! here's CDiag log for
Laptop:-

Hope it helps.

Thanks.

That it does. The problem - and it's symmetrical - is between LAPTOP and
TARDIS_2. Neither can access the other, in any of 4 tests each. Look at CDiag
for LAPTOP, Target TARDIS_2. Look at CDiag for TARDIS_2, Target LAPTOP.
# Ping by name. Name resolution problem.
# Net View by name. No display (you'll probably see errors in the command
window).
# Ping by IP address. Request times out.
# Net View by IP address. No display (you'll probably see errors in the command
window).

With pings being blocked, both ways, this points to either a physical (cabling /
router) or logical (firewall) problem. Let's test logically, and do this very
methodically please. Read thru instructions first.
1) Swap router ports for 2 cables - say NUMBER_1 and LAPTOP. See if the problem
moves.
2) Swap router ports for NUMBER_1 and LAPTOP back, then swap NUMBER_1 and
TARDIS_2. See if the problem moves.
3) Swap router ports for NUMBER_1 and TARDIS_2 back, then swap Ethernet cables
between NUMBER_1 and LAPTOP. See if the problem moves.
4) Swap Ethernet cables for NUMBER_1 and LAPTOP back, then swap NUMBER_1 and
TARDIS_2. See if the problem moves.

Tests 1 - 4 will identify either a router port or Ethernet cable as the problem.
If no changes are observed from any of the 4 tests, then the problem will be a
firewall. Or possibly a LSP / Winsock problem, but with the symmetry, I don't
believe that.

If it's a firewall, we'll think of some more tests. Just do this very
deliberately.
 
I was just thinking how wonderful life was, when Chuck


I wondered when I'd get caught out with that one! here's CDiag log for
Laptop:-

Hope it helps.

Thanks.

That it does. The problem - and it's symmetrical - is between LAPTOP and
TARDIS_2. Neither can access the other, in any of 4 tests each. Look at CDiag
for LAPTOP, Target TARDIS_2. Look at CDiag for TARDIS_2, Target LAPTOP.
# Ping by name. Name resolution problem.
# Net View by name. No display (you'll probably see errors in the command
window).
# Ping by IP address. Request times out.
# Net View by IP address. No display (you'll probably see errors in the command
window).

With pings being blocked, both ways, this points to either a physical (cabling /
router) or logical (firewall) problem. Let's test logically, and do this very
methodically please. Read thru instructions first.
1) Swap router ports for 2 cables - say NUMBER_1 and LAPTOP. See if the problem
moves.
2) Swap router ports for NUMBER_1 and LAPTOP back, then swap NUMBER_1 and
TARDIS_2. See if the problem moves.
3) Swap router ports for NUMBER_1 and TARDIS_2 back, then swap Ethernet cables
between NUMBER_1 and LAPTOP. See if the problem moves.
4) Swap Ethernet cables for NUMBER_1 and LAPTOP back, then swap NUMBER_1 and
TARDIS_2. See if the problem moves.

Tests 1 - 4 will identify either a router port or Ethernet cable as the problem.
If no changes are observed from any of the 4 tests, then the problem will be a
firewall. Or possibly a LSP / Winsock problem, but with the symmetry, I don't
believe that.

If it's a firewall, we'll think of some more tests. Just do this very
deliberately.

And your testing, as you swap cables and / or router ports, can be very simple.
From Tardis_2, open one command window, and type "ping -t 192.168.1.3" (Ping
Laptop by IP address). Then open a second command window, and type "ping -t
192.168.1.4" (Ping Number_1 by IP address). Do the same for the other two
computers, but differing targets. The "ping -t" will ping continuously, and you
won't have to restart anything. See instantly when you make a change that makes
the problem move.
 
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