security Patches

[nic]

Hi,

I had to reinstall my PC after virus.
Now, I want to do all the update-patches on XP for home
users. But I wont do it over the internet.

So, How can I download the patches (or at least the most
important) form another PC and put it on a diskette? It
seems you have to do it always on-line?

After my first reinstall of XP I did the SP1A form the
internet and immediatly I had also again a virus.
(For my virusscanner after reinstall I have also to go on
te internet for the latest update)

So, if possible I want the XP patches on diskette (like in
the old days. It was always a download and then an
execute) Or in this case are I am looking not very well at
the XP site?

Thanks,
Nick

 

[Will Denny]

Hi Nick

You can't install the Updates by copying them from another PC - you have use Windows Update - or if you know someone with a Broadband connection - ask him/her to download them and then burn them to a CD. Even then you will have to use Windows Updates to see which ones are needed.

Will

 

[nic]

Hi,

If I understand, I have to go to the internet first
without any precautions against viruses?

Nick

-----Original Message-----
Hi Nick

You can't install the Updates by copying them from

another PC - you have use Windows Update - or if you know
someone with a Broadband connection - ask him/her to
download them and then burn them to a CD. Even then you
will have to use Windows Updates to see which ones are
needed.

 

[Will Denny]

Hi

You will need to enable the XP firewall first - Control Panel>Network Connections - right click on your connection and select Properties>Advanced and enable ICF. Which anti-virus program are you using?

Will

 

[Thomas Wendell]

I would do it this way:

1. Download (on another machine?) some free AV (AVG, Avast etc.) with
updates. Burn them to CD
2. Install XP, then AV (with updates).
3. Go to WinUpdate, list what updates it wants. (Personalize Windows
Update, check show WinUpd Catalog)
4. Download from Catalog needed updates.
5. Disconnect from net.
6. Install updates just downloaded.
7. Repeat steps 3-6 until no more updates.

Recommended updates are just that. Think twice about getting them too.....

Remember NOT to get driver updates, as you almost always can get newer ones
from mfg's homepages...


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[Bill James]

It is difficult to determine which patches you need to download, but a couple of important ones to install to prevent online infection are the Blaster patch which can be downloaded from this page: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...6C-C5B6-44AC-9532-3DE40F69C074&displaylang=en, and the MS03-039 patch, http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...AE-A1BA-4D4A-B424-95D32CFC8CBA&displaylang=en. Those should each fit on a floppy, so you can easily download/save from another computer and install on the unpatched computer before going online to check for patches.

If you are reinstalling, after applying the patches go to Windows Update and upgrade to SP1, but as soon as that update has installed, disconnect the computer from the Internet and rerun the 2 saved patches before going online again for the additional patches you will need. If you have a friend with a CD burner, you can make this easier by having them download and burn SP1 and those 2 patches to install before going online for other updates. The complete SP1A update can be downloaded from this page: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/downloads/servicepacks/sp1/sp1lang..asp.

You could create a list of the patches your computer requires, but such a list tends to get out of date fairly fast as new patches are released, included some cumulative patches. SP2 will be out at some point rolling up many of the current patches, so downloading and saving what is currently now isn't always worth the effort unless you have more than one computer that currently needs updating and a slow connection.

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[Jim Macklin]

Turn the XP firewall ON before you go on-line. This will
hide your computer from the Blaster virus. Then you can
safely go to Windows Update and your A/V update sites,

I would also download the Zone Alarm firewall, because it
gives two-way protection and alerting about programs trying
to access the Internet either in or outbound. XP firewall
is inbound only.


| Hi,
|
| I had to reinstall my PC after virus.
| Now, I want to do all the update-patches on XP for home
| users. But I wont do it over the internet.
|
| So, How can I download the patches (or at least the most
| important) form another PC and put it on a diskette? It
| seems you have to do it always on-line?
|
| After my first reinstall of XP I did the SP1A form the
| internet and immediatly I had also again a virus.
| (For my virusscanner after reinstall I have also to go on
| te internet for the latest update)
|
| So, if possible I want the XP patches on diskette (like in
| the old days. It was always a download and then an
| execute) Or in this case are I am looking not very well at
| the XP site?
|
| Thanks,
| Nick

 

[Code-Curious Mom]

I'd get the SP1 from Windows Update Catalog (where you do *download then
execute*) from another computer. Download it and burn it to a CD. Then
install it on your computer. The other computer doesn't *have to* have
broadband, but it's a long download otherwise. I'd probably want to get the
patch for the hole in IE6 that Blaster, etc. uses, to prevent that nasty
too. Just make sure you download the correct stuff for your computer.
Then hopefully you'll be safe enough to get your AV updates and the rest of
the XP ones online. Your decision, just my 2 cents worth. And thanks, that
makes me aware of this issue, should I reinstall at some future time.

 

[bern]

PS: do not forget the FIREWALL!! Do that first.

I would do it this way:

1. Download (on another machine?) some free AV (AVG, Avast etc.) with
updates. Burn them to CD
2. Install XP, then AV (with updates).
3. Go to WinUpdate, list what updates it wants. (Personalize Windows
Update, check show WinUpd Catalog)
4. Download from Catalog needed updates.
5. Disconnect from net.
6. Install updates just downloaded.
7. Repeat steps 3-6 until no more updates.

Recommended updates are just that. Think twice about getting them too.....

Remember NOT to get driver updates, as you almost always can get newer ones
from mfg's homepages...


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[Alex Nichol]

I had to reinstall my PC after virus.
Now, I want to do all the update-patches on XP for home
users. But I wont do it over the internet.

So, How can I download the patches (or at least the most
important) form another PC and put it on a diskette? It
seems you have to do it always on-line?

If you install a patch, the immediate download is an .exe file in Temp
Internet Files. So at the point where it comes up with a 'do you want
to install' you can copy that out for use elsewhere (some though would
not fit on a diskette)

For SP1a it would be better to spend $10 on getting it on CD - the link
is
http://www.microsoft.com/WindowsXP/pro/downloads/servicepacks/sp1/default..asp
and down at the bottom is the link to order it. The 'full' Network
download there is 130MB

 

[Alex Nichol]

If I understand, I have to go to the internet first
without any precautions against viruses?

Start by enabling the XP Firewall (in Internet connections, r-click the
connection, Properties - Advanced and check Enable, Apply) before ever
going on line.

That will keep out the blast worm while you go to Windows Update and get
the patch against it - or at
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;Q824146

and the most recent Comprehensive update for Internet Explorer - or at
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;822925

As long as you do not open email or attachments to news group posts
while you do this you will not get viruses. Then if you do not have an
AV package, get AVG6 which is a reasonable free one from www.grisoft.com