Second Time around

[Guest]

Second time trying to upgrade to XP Pro from Win 98. During a clean install
the installation halts after choosing NTFS file system and to reformat the
disc. This is a HP Pavillion with a 40 Gig HDD with two partitions. I read
other posts stating that it may take a while to foramt, but I waited almost
24 hrs and the progress bar shows 0%. It seems that it never gets started
with the formatting, after shutting the system off and turning it back on the
system comes back up with the previous OS. Has anyone encounter this?
Suggestions?

 

[jeffrey]

You could keep it at Fat32 then when the XP install is done, change it to
NTFS

Jeff

 

[Guest]

Is it possible to do this on the C drive where the windows installation
resides?

 

[SlowJet]

It should only take 10 to 20 mintes. (That a long time if you are under 30.)
You have something else going on.
Read the HP documentation.
It may have an image, hidden partition, overlay bios software, etc, etc.

If you have a real XP CD use your disk MFG software to test the disk, delete
partitions, remove overlay, write zeros on the front and back of the disk to
wipe out format and parttition structures.
Then try the install agin.

SJ

 

[jeffrey]

You can keep it on the C drive, no reason to change drives. Just format the
hard drive, insert the XP upgrade CD, and install from that, you can use
that to format the hard drive. When it asks for where the previous version
of windows is, pop in your 98 CD and point it to that, then pop the XP
upgrade back in. That will enable you to install from the upgrade CD and
have it formatted with NTFS

JEff

 

[Guest]

SJ,

Thanks for the advice. I will try that. I have also run fdisk and deleted
and repartition and formatted the disc, but I continue to have the same
problem. Do you think that the mfg test software help more than fdisk. Thanks
for your help.

 

[Guest]

Yes I tried this and that is when it comes to the formatting part it hangs,
it seems like it never gets going.
You mention also to change from FAT 32 to NTFS after the installation is
complete, my following question was whether you could do this on the C drive
after the installation was complete?
Thanks for your help

 

[Ross Durie]

fdisk doesn't test the HDD.

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Ross

SJ,

Thanks for the advice. I will try that. I have also run fdisk and deleted
and repartition and formatted the disc, but I continue to have the same
problem. Do you think that the mfg test software help more than fdisk. Thanks
for your help.

 

[Ross Durie]

Yes, convert /fs:ntfs c:

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Ross

Yes I tried this and that is when it comes to the formatting part it hangs,
it seems like it never gets going.
You mention also to change from FAT 32 to NTFS after the installation is
complete, my following question was whether you could do this on the C drive
after the installation was complete?
Thanks for your help

 

[Michael Stevens]

Second time trying to upgrade to XP Pro from Win 98. During a clean
install the installation halts after choosing NTFS file system and to
reformat the disc. This is a HP Pavillion with a 40 Gig HDD with two
partitions. I read other posts stating that it may take a while to
foramt, but I waited almost 24 hrs and the progress bar shows 0%. It
seems that it never gets started with the formatting, after shutting
the system off and turning it back on the system comes back up with
the previous OS. Has anyone encounter this? Suggestions?

Did you check the HP web site for any special advisories on upgrading you
system to XP.
Personally today I would not upgrade a computer that shipped with 98. You
can purchase an entry level XP system with 2 to 3 times the specs for about
the same price as upgrading the 98 system. Plus the fact after you spend the
same amount of money, you have a system that is a dog compared to today's
entry level XP systems. Two years ago it made sense to upgrade, today I
don't think so. Network the old system with the new and you have a backup
system and you don't lose the use of any of your applications that don't run
on XP. You can even get a KVM switch and use the same mouse, keyboard and
monitor for both boxes.

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[Guest]

Ross,

I assume you do this at the dos prompt after the installtion of XP pro is
complete

 

[Guest]

One reason I am trying to do this is to network another XP Pro system with
this one to share the drives and files. I am assuming that one system running
NTFS and the other FAT 32 may encounter problems if they try to access the
same files? Suggestions?

 

[Michael Stevens]

One reason I am trying to do this is to network another XP Pro system
with this one to share the drives and files. I am assuming that one
system running NTFS and the other FAT 32 may encounter problems if
they try to access the same files? Suggestions?

The network does not care about file systems, the only time you would be
concerned with the file system would be when you have a Multi-boot system.
9X/Me cannot read NTFS, but NT/2000/XP can read both.
There is no need to change the OS to network a computer. In fact 98/Me can
join a domain, but XP Home can't.
Over a network, you can access any files from any OS as long as they have
enabled file sharing, you have permission to access the files and have a
physical/wireless connection to the network.
File system does not matter.
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[Michael Stevens]

Yes I tried this and that is when it comes to the formatting part it
hangs, it seems like it never gets going.
You mention also to change from FAT 32 to NTFS after the installation
is complete, my following question was whether you could do this on
the C drive after the installation was complete?
Thanks for your help

You should select NTFS during setup to get the optimum cluster size. You
will need a third party partitioning application to get the optimal cluster
size after setup. XP's NTFS converter does not have this capability.

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[Ken Blake]

In

One reason I am trying to do this is to network another XP Pro
system
with this one to share the drives and files. I am assuming that
one
system running NTFS and the other FAT 32 may encounter problems
if
they try to access the same files?

Absolutely not. There is no problem accessing files stored on
another file system across the network. It's the contents of the
files--the data itself, not the file system--that's sent across
the network.

Realize that every time you download a file from the internet,
you are moving it across a network. You don't even know what file
system the file you're downloading is stored under at the other
end. Many of those times, it will be a completely different file
system from yours.

It's not directly related to your question/comment above, but you
should also realize that if you have multiple drives on a single
system, they too can be different file systems without any
problem, and data can easily be transferred between them. In fact
you can even have different file system on different partitions
on the same physical drive.

Windows XP supports NTFS, FAT32, FAT16, and FAT12 in any and all
combinations, without a problem.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Second time trying to upgrade to XP Pro from Win 98. During a clean
install the installation halts after choosing NTFS file system and
to
reformat the disc. This is a HP Pavillion with a 40 Gig HDD with two
partitions. I read other posts stating that it may take a while to
foramt, but I waited almost 24 hrs and the progress bar shows 0%. It
seems that it never gets started with the formatting, after shutting
the system off and turning it back on the system comes back up with
the previous OS. Has anyone encounter this? Suggestions?

Have you made sure that your PC's hardware components are capable
of supporting WinXP? This information will be found at the PC's
manufacturer's web site, and on Microsoft's Windows Catalog:
(http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hcl/default.mspx) Additionally, run
Microsoft WinXP Upgrade Advisor to see if you have any incompatible
hardware components or applications.

You should, before proceeding, take a few minutes to ensure that
there are WinXP device drivers available for all of the machine's
components. There may not be, if the PC was specifically designed for
Win98/Me. Also bear in mind that PCs designed for, sold and run fine
with Win9x/Me very often do not meet WinXP's much more stringent
hardware quality requirements. This is particularly true of many
models in Compaq's consumer-class Presario product line or HP's
consumer-class Pavilion product line. WinXP, like WinNT and Win2K
before it, is quite sensitive to borderline defective or substandard
hardware (particularly motherboards, RAM and hard drives) that will
still support Win9x.

HOW TO Prepare to Upgrade Win98 or WinMe
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q316639

Upgrading to Windows XP
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpupgrad.htm

HOW TO Troubleshoot Windows XP Problems During Installation When You
Upgrade from Windows 98 or Windows Me
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q310064

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