Second Hand Computer

[Guest]

I have a second hand computer that I have set up for my daughter. I have
bought a copy of XP Professional. I have a copy of XP Home on my own computer.

Can I install the Professional version on my computer (currently Home) and
then install the Home version on my daughters computer.

Just in case it matters. The Home version has been activated but the
Professional Version has not.

Thanks in advance

 

[DL]

Depends, if the XPHome version is an OEM version, ie supplied installed on
the PC then probably not

 

[Rick Rogers]

Hi Stewart,

Much depends on the Home version you have. If it was a regular retail boxed
version, then sure you can move it to another machine. If it came
preinstalled on the system, or you purchased a generic OEM full version,
then these are usually not transferable to another system. One of the
shortcomings of these versions is that they are permanently tied to the
machine they are activated on.

If you are unsure, best thing I can tell you is to try installing and
activating it on the other machine. You never know, it may work.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

 

[Guest]

Thanks for the feedback. I built my own system. I have a boxed retail version
of XP Home. It is an upgrade. Can I assume therefore that I can install this
and activate it on my daughters machine? I did not think that that was
possible after I ativated it.

Stewart

 

[Rick Rogers]

Hi Stewart,

Yes, it is perfectly transferable under the circumstances you have described
even though you activated it. At most, you might need to phone in the new
activation, but if it's been more than 120 days since it was last activated
then most likely it will activate over the 'net the same as before (that is
the reset period for the activation servers). One benefit of the retail
version is that it doesn't die with the system. It is perfectly within the
bounds of the license (EULA) to move it to another system. You just can't
use it on two systems at the same time (well, you aren't *supposed* to use
it on two systems at the same time).

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

 

[--Alias--]

Hi Stewart,

Yes, it is perfectly transferable under the circumstances you have
described even though you activated it. At most, you might need to phone
in the new activation, but if it's been more than 120 days since it was
last activated then most likely it will activate over the 'net the same
as before (that is the reset period for the activation servers). One
benefit of the retail version is that it doesn't die with the system. It
is perfectly within the bounds of the license (EULA) to move it to
another system. You just can't use it on two systems at the same time
(well, you aren't *supposed* to use it on two systems at the same time).

And you're not *supposed* to move a generic OEM or install it on two
computers but, due to the 120 day reset period, technically you can.

Alias

 

[Ron Sommer]

: Rick Rogers wrote:
: > Hi Stewart,
: >
: > Yes, it is perfectly transferable under the circumstances you have
: > described even though you activated it. At most, you might need to phone
: > in the new activation, but if it's been more than 120 days since it was
: > last activated then most likely it will activate over the 'net the same
: > as before (that is the reset period for the activation servers). One
: > benefit of the retail version is that it doesn't die with the system. It
: > is perfectly within the bounds of the license (EULA) to move it to
: > another system. You just can't use it on two systems at the same time
: > (well, you aren't *supposed* to use it on two systems at the same time).
: >
:
: And you're not *supposed* to move a generic OEM or install it on two
: computers but, due to the 120 day reset period, technically you can.
:
: Alias

Is that what WGA is trying to catch?

 

[--Alias--]

: Rick Rogers wrote:
: > Hi Stewart,
: >
: > Yes, it is perfectly transferable under the circumstances you have
: > described even though you activated it. At most, you might need to phone
: > in the new activation, but if it's been more than 120 days since it was
: > last activated then most likely it will activate over the 'net the same
: > as before (that is the reset period for the activation servers). One
: > benefit of the retail version is that it doesn't die with the system. It
: > is perfectly within the bounds of the license (EULA) to move it to
: > another system. You just can't use it on two systems at the same time
: > (well, you aren't *supposed* to use it on two systems at the same time).
: >
:
: And you're not *supposed* to move a generic OEM or install it on two
: computers but, due to the 120 day reset period, technically you can.
:
: Alias

Is that what WGA is trying to catch?

I have no idea but I wouldn't be surprised. Course, all one has to do to
avoid WGA is not install it using AU instead of going to the Windows
Update web site.

Alias

 

[Ron Sommer]

: Ron Sommer wrote:
: > : > : Rick Rogers wrote:
: > : > Hi Stewart,
: > : >
: > : > Yes, it is perfectly transferable under the circumstances you have
: > : > described even though you activated it. At most, you might need to
phone
: > : > in the new activation, but if it's been more than 120 days since it
was
: > : > last activated then most likely it will activate over the 'net the
same
: > : > as before (that is the reset period for the activation servers). One
: > : > benefit of the retail version is that it doesn't die with the
system. It
: > : > is perfectly within the bounds of the license (EULA) to move it to
: > : > another system. You just can't use it on two systems at the same
time
: > : > (well, you aren't *supposed* to use it on two systems at the same
time).
: > : >
: > :
: > : And you're not *supposed* to move a generic OEM or install it on two
: > : computers but, due to the 120 day reset period, technically you can.
: > :
: > : Alias
: >
: > Is that what WGA is trying to catch?
:
: I have no idea but I wouldn't be surprised. Course, all one has to do to
: avoid WGA is not install it using AU instead of going to the Windows
: Update web site.
:
: Alias

If you don't have WGA installed, then you can't check for updates on the
update site.

 

[Dino]

: Ron Sommer wrote:
: > : > : Rick Rogers wrote:
: > : > Hi Stewart,
: > : >
: > : > Yes, it is perfectly transferable under the circumstances you have
: > : > described even though you activated it. At most, you might need to
phone
: > : > in the new activation, but if it's been more than 120 days since it
was
: > : > last activated then most likely it will activate over the 'net the
same
: > : > as before (that is the reset period for the activation servers). One
: > : > benefit of the retail version is that it doesn't die with the
system. It
: > : > is perfectly within the bounds of the license (EULA) to move it to
: > : > another system. You just can't use it on two systems at the same
time
: > : > (well, you aren't *supposed* to use it on two systems at the same
time).
: > : >
: > :
: > : And you're not *supposed* to move a generic OEM or install it on two
: > : computers but, due to the 120 day reset period, technically you can.
: > :
: > : Alias
: >
: > Is that what WGA is trying to catch?
:
: I have no idea but I wouldn't be surprised. Course, all one has to do to
: avoid WGA is not install it using AU instead of going to the Windows
: Update web site.
:
: Alias

If you don't have WGA installed, then you can't check for updates on the
update site.

Wrong! I have the WGA hidden on the update site and I have no problem
getting updates.As with most spyware You have to grant permission for it
to install on Your system.

 

[Ron Sommer]

: Ron Sommer wrote:
: > : > : Ron Sommer wrote:
: > : > : > : > : Rick Rogers wrote:
: > : > : > Hi Stewart,
: > : > : >
: > : > : > Yes, it is perfectly transferable under the circumstances you
have
: > : > : > described even though you activated it. At most, you might need
to
: > phone
: > : > : > in the new activation, but if it's been more than 120 days since
it
: > was
: > : > : > last activated then most likely it will activate over the 'net
the
: > same
: > : > : > as before (that is the reset period for the activation servers).
One
: > : > : > benefit of the retail version is that it doesn't die with the
: > system. It
: > : > : > is perfectly within the bounds of the license (EULA) to move it
to
: > : > : > another system. You just can't use it on two systems at the same
: > time
: > : > : > (well, you aren't *supposed* to use it on two systems at the
same
: > time).
: > : > : >
: > : > :
: > : > : And you're not *supposed* to move a generic OEM or install it on
two
: > : > : computers but, due to the 120 day reset period, technically you
can.
: > : > :
: > : > : Alias
: > : >
: > : > Is that what WGA is trying to catch?
: > :
: > : I have no idea but I wouldn't be surprised. Course, all one has to do
to
: > : avoid WGA is not install it using AU instead of going to the Windows
: > : Update web site.
: > :
: > : Alias
: >
: > If you don't have WGA installed, then you can't check for updates on the
: > update site.
: Wrong! I have the WGA hidden on the update site and I have no problem
: getting updates.As with most spyware You have to grant permission for it
: to install on Your system.

You can't get updates from here without installing WGA.
http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/v6/default.aspx?ln=en-us

 

[antioch]

: Ron Sommer wrote:
: > : > : Ron Sommer wrote:
: > : > : > : > : Rick Rogers wrote:
: > : > : > Hi Stewart,
: > : > : >
: > : > : > Yes, it is perfectly transferable under the circumstances you
have
: > : > : > described even though you activated it. At most, you might
need
to
: > phone
: > : > : > in the new activation, but if it's been more than 120 days
since
it
: > was
: > : > : > last activated then most likely it will activate over the 'net
the
: > same
: > : > : > as before (that is the reset period for the activation
servers).
One
: > : > : > benefit of the retail version is that it doesn't die with the
: > system. It
: > : > : > is perfectly within the bounds of the license (EULA) to move
it
to
: > : > : > another system. You just can't use it on two systems at the
same
: > time
: > : > : > (well, you aren't *supposed* to use it on two systems at the
same
: > time).
: > : > : >
: > : > :
: > : > : And you're not *supposed* to move a generic OEM or install it on
two
: > : > : computers but, due to the 120 day reset period, technically you
can.
: > : > :
: > : > : Alias
: > : >
: > : > Is that what WGA is trying to catch?
: > :
: > : I have no idea but I wouldn't be surprised. Course, all one has to
do
to
: > : avoid WGA is not install it using AU instead of going to the Windows
: > : Update web site.
: > :
: > : Alias
: >
: > If you don't have WGA installed, then you can't check for updates on
the
: > update site.
: Wrong! I have the WGA hidden on the update site and I have no problem
: getting updates.As with most spyware You have to grant permission for it
: to install on Your system.

You can't get updates from here without installing WGA.
http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/v6/default.aspx?ln=en-us

What sort of updates are you talking about - security/critical or the other
sort?
Rgds
Antioch

 

[Guest]

Okay, Installed XP Home on my daughters computer. Seems to be okay but yet to
try updates.

I have a major problem on my own computer. I get an error when I try to
activate XP Professional. The error reads:

The procedure entry point InternetGetSecurityInfoByURLW could not be located
in the dynamic link library WININET.dll

I had Internet Explorer 7 Beta installed on the computer and I think the
problem is connected with it. IE7 seems to have dissappeared from my system.
I can not reinstall it as I have to activate windows first. I am also unable
to us IE6 (currently using Firefox) I have tried to reinstall and I have
tried a repair but nothing helps.

Can anyone point me in the right direction,

Stewart

 

[Dino]

What sort of updates are you talking about - security/critical or the other
sort?
Rgds
Antioch

Out of curiosity I fired up XP to see if I could get updates if I wanted
to.I used the web address That You posted to get to the update site.Once
at the site it told Me that I had to have auto updates enabled.I did
this and the site then worked.Also nagged Me about having WGA hidden.I
went ahead and chose one of the critical updates just to try it out and
it was downloaded and installed with no problem.
Although I have installed SP2 for XP i do not do updates as it is very
rare that I connect to the internet using windows but I had no problem
getting updates.Better disconnect now I don't want My computer to infected.

 

[Rick Rogers]

Hi Stewart,

Bad, bad idea. You should have removed IE7 beta first. Backup critical data
to removable media, then format and do a clean install. You are not going to
be able to fix this.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

 

[Rick Rogers]

WGA is supposed to catch incorrect use of OEM keys and pirated volume
license keys, not someone trying to (re)activate an OEM key on a second
machine. By incorrect usage, I am referring to keys stolen from OEM labels
on machines that are preinstalled with a factory image. Those keys are not
actually used unless the end-user decides to one day format and clean
install the machine. The factory image uses a different, volume key. What
has happened is that workers steal the keys and sell them, figuring the
majority will never be used, and those that are will own the legitimate
license and be allowed to reactivate anyways.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

 

[--Alias--]

: Ron Sommer wrote:
: > : > : Rick Rogers wrote:
: > : > Hi Stewart,
: > : >
: > : > Yes, it is perfectly transferable under the circumstances you have
: > : > described even though you activated it. At most, you might need to
phone
: > : > in the new activation, but if it's been more than 120 days since it
was
: > : > last activated then most likely it will activate over the 'net the
same
: > : > as before (that is the reset period for the activation servers). One
: > : > benefit of the retail version is that it doesn't die with the
system. It
: > : > is perfectly within the bounds of the license (EULA) to move it to
: > : > another system. You just can't use it on two systems at the same
time
: > : > (well, you aren't *supposed* to use it on two systems at the same
time).
: > : >
: > :
: > : And you're not *supposed* to move a generic OEM or install it on two
: > : computers but, due to the 120 day reset period, technically you can.
: > :
: > : Alias
: >
: > Is that what WGA is trying to catch?
:
: I have no idea but I wouldn't be surprised. Course, all one has to do to
: avoid WGA is not install it using AU instead of going to the Windows
: Update web site.
:
: Alias

If you don't have WGA installed, then you can't check for updates on the
update site.

True, and the reason for using AU if you don't want that software on
your system but do want the security updates and are willing to do
without Defender and IE7.

Alias

 

[Guest]

Hmm, I had a horrible feeling that would be the case. Oh well its supposed to
rain tomorrow anyway. Thanks for the help,

Stewart