S.m.a.r.t. hd error upon booting...

[David Ciemny]

Hi all..I keep getting a f1 error message when booting this machine
regarding that s.m.a.r.t. technology feels my disk will eventually crash. I
disabled this option in the bios yet the message still comes up during the
boot process and I have to hit f1 to proceed. I have an image of my drive
and other back ups so a crash would not be a disaster. How can I stop this
message from reappearing?

Dave

 

[Shep©]

Hi all..I keep getting a f1 error message when booting this machine
regarding that s.m.a.r.t. technology feels my disk will eventually crash. I
disabled this option in the bios yet the message still comes up during the
boot process and I have to hit f1 to proceed. I have an image of my drive
and other back ups so a crash would not be a disaster. How can I stop this
message from reappearing?

Dave

Do you have any other software monitoring the S.M.A.R.T?



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[David Ciemny]

Do you have any other software monitoring the S.M.A.R.T?



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hello Shep )

no other monitoring software.

Dave

 

[Shep©]

hello Shep )

no other monitoring software.

Dave

Weird :O
Can't think of anything else except to try enabling and disabling it
again in the BIOS :/



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[David Ciemny]

Weird :O
Can't think of anything else except to try enabling and disabling it
again in the BIOS :/



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It's really no big thing I guess. Just hit f1 and it continues on. Just a
little annoying to keep having to hit that button. I thought disabling it in
the bios would be sufficient.

Dave

 

[David Ciemny]

It's really no big thing I guess. Just hit f1 and it continues on. Just a
little annoying to keep having to hit that button. I thought disabling it in
the bios would be sufficient.

Dave

even flashed the bios to a newer version, disabled it and the f1 message
still appears. strange..

DC

 

[Paul Murphy]

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even flashed the bios to a newer version, disabled it and the f1 message
still appears. strange..

DC

Depending on the make and model of HDD there may be a utility provided by
the manufacturer which enables you to turn off S.M.A.R.T. on the drive
(haven't seen anything that resets a tripped flag though). Have a nosey at
their web site.

Paul

 

[David Ciemny]

Just

Depending on the make and model of HDD there may be a utility provided by
the manufacturer which enables you to turn off S.M.A.R.T. on the drive
(haven't seen anything that resets a tripped flag though). Have a nosey at
their web site.

Paul

will do..thanks Paul

 

[David Ciemny]

Just

Depending on the make and model of HDD there may be a utility provided by
the manufacturer which enables you to turn off S.M.A.R.T. on the drive
(haven't seen anything that resets a tripped flag though). Have a nosey at
their web site.

Paul

I did look at their website. States to disable in the bios. Only thing I can
think of now is to clear the cmos. Might that work? Like stated before it is
no big thing I can hit f1 and go but now it is the principle of the matter.
Want to fix it ))

DC

 

[Trent©]

Hi all..I keep getting a f1 error message when booting this machine
regarding that s.m.a.r.t. technology feels my disk will eventually crash. I
disabled this option in the bios yet the message still comes up during the
boot process and I have to hit f1 to proceed.

Did the BIOS revert to checking again?...or does the change that you
made stay as 'not check' in the BIOS?

If it stays set to 'not check', then you have another program that is
doing the checking.

Investigate msconfig...also any running processes and things in your
Event Viewer.


Have a nice week...

Trent©

What do you call a smart blonde?
A golden retriever.

 

[David Ciemny]

Did the BIOS revert to checking again?...or does the change that you
made stay as 'not check' in the BIOS?

If it stays set to 'not check', then you have another program that is
doing the checking.

Investigate msconfig...also any running processes and things in your
Event Viewer.


Have a nice week...

Trent©

What do you call a smart blonde?
A golden retriever.

Still set to disabled in the bios. Don't see anything else running in the
background. Fresh install of windows on the machine.

DC

 

[Trent©]

Still set to disabled in the bios. Don't see anything else running in the
background. Fresh install of windows on the machine.

This might be a good time to tell us who made the hard drive? lol

Boot into a DOS system disk. That shud tell you for sure where the
program is running from.


Have a nice week...

Trent©

What do you call a smart blonde?
A golden retriever.

 

[mhaase-at-springmind.com]

I did look at their website. States to disable in the bios. Only thing I can
think of now is to clear the cmos. Might that work? Like stated before it is
no big thing I can hit f1 and go but now it is the principle of the matter.
Want to fix it ))

This isn't meant as a slam, but if you really "want to fix it", why
don't you do what it's trying to tell you to do and replace the drive?

By turning off the warning, you're pretty much just masking the
problem. Like turning up the stereo so you don't hear the failing CPU
fan.

 

[Shep©]

I did look at their website. States to disable in the bios. Only thing I can
think of now is to clear the cmos. Might that work? Like stated before it is
no big thing I can hit f1 and go but now it is the principle of the matter.
Want to fix it ))

DC

Remember that you cannot fully clear the CMOS on ATX powered systems
with power to the board as there is a residual current applied across
the CMOS batery.Unplug the power supply,clear Cmos with jumper and
then re-apply power cable and reset BIOS parameters.
HTH



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[David Ciemny]

This might be a good time to tell us who made the hard drive? lol

Boot into a DOS system disk. That shud tell you for sure where the
program is running from.


Have a nice week...

Trent©

What do you call a smart blonde?
A golden retriever.

hehe Maxtor..

 

[Paul Murphy]

This isn't meant as a slam, but if you really "want to fix it", why
don't you do what it's trying to tell you to do and replace the drive?

By turning off the warning, you're pretty much just masking the
problem. Like turning up the stereo so you don't hear the failing CPU
fan.

As someone who has worked as a qualified computer technician I can say that
NOT all S.M.A.R.T. warnings mean a drive is about to fail. As an example my
employer had a batch of approx 30 PCs with identical hardware during my
stay. About 6 or 7 of these had the S.M.A.R.T. flag tripped and popped up a
warning on boot if detection was enabled in the BIOS yet formatting worked
perfectly well with no bad sectors discovered. During the 15 or so months I
was with the organisation, none of the drives with tripped S.M.A.R.T. flags
went on to fail. All of the valuable data created by users was stored on a
server with a RAID 5 configuration, we also had spare drives in the cupboard
and used imaging software so we could afford to "wait and see" what would
happen.

The S.M.A.R.T flag can be tripped by a multitude of reasons including things
like power surges or even disconnecting IDE ribbon cables from the drive
while it's still powered on (with some drives at least). If the OP has
thoroughly backed up all valuable data, I would suggest a low level erasure
of the whole drive is performed using Maxtor's utility for the model of
drive (powermax?) and note if any bad sectors are detected - if none are
found reinstall from scratch and as long as regular backups are performed
keep using it. If bad sectors are found, run the utility again a while later
(after reinstalling and backing up regularly as above) and see if more are
found - if so, the drive is likely on the way out. I'd also contact Maxtor
to see what could be done to resolve it, depending on the age of the drive -
if its just out of warranty they may still replace it.

If the OP has another machine with a different motherboard that this drive
can be used in, I'd suggest a swap and disable S.M.A.R.T. on that machine.
Also a BIOS upgrade to the LATEST (not necessarily just a newer) version may
fix the issue of S.M.A.R.T. detection not being turned off. The mobo maker
could then be contacted for advise if this didn't work.

Paul

 

[David Ciemny]

I it
As someone who has worked as a qualified computer technician I can say that
NOT all S.M.A.R.T. warnings mean a drive is about to fail. As an example my
employer had a batch of approx 30 PCs with identical hardware during my
stay. About 6 or 7 of these had the S.M.A.R.T. flag tripped and popped up a
warning on boot if detection was enabled in the BIOS yet formatting worked
perfectly well with no bad sectors discovered. During the 15 or so months I
was with the organisation, none of the drives with tripped S.M.A.R.T. flags
went on to fail. All of the valuable data created by users was stored on a
server with a RAID 5 configuration, we also had spare drives in the cupboard
and used imaging software so we could afford to "wait and see" what would
happen.

The S.M.A.R.T flag can be tripped by a multitude of reasons including things
like power surges or even disconnecting IDE ribbon cables from the drive
while it's still powered on (with some drives at least). If the OP has
thoroughly backed up all valuable data, I would suggest a low level erasure
of the whole drive is performed using Maxtor's utility for the model of
drive (powermax?) and note if any bad sectors are detected - if none are
found reinstall from scratch and as long as regular backups are performed
keep using it. If bad sectors are found, run the utility again a while later
(after reinstalling and backing up regularly as above) and see if more are
found - if so, the drive is likely on the way out. I'd also contact Maxtor
to see what could be done to resolve it, depending on the age of the drive -
if its just out of warranty they may still replace it.

If the OP has another machine with a different motherboard that this drive
can be used in, I'd suggest a swap and disable S.M.A.R.T. on that machine.
Also a BIOS upgrade to the LATEST (not necessarily just a newer) version may
fix the issue of S.M.A.R.T. detection not being turned off. The mobo maker
could then be contacted for advise if this didn't work.

Paul

Nice Paul..no offense taken in a previous post either. I have back ups and
it is not one of my main machines. Just something that irritates me a wee
bit when this one boots.

DC