Run as available in Vista?

J

Jake

Hi,

I was wondering if there was a way of showing "Run as.." in Vista when right
clicking a shortcut or file. "Run as.." was a very handy function I used a
lot in Windows Xp. You could run a file as any user. It seems to have been
replaced by a "run as admin" link.

Jake
 
J

JCS

In Windows XP, when you set up an account with Administrator privileges,
then it had real Administrator privileges. You could have several
"Administrator" accounts, and several limited user accounts. Therefore, you
could select the appropriate "Administrator" account to perform whatever
action you were wanting to do. In other words, you could have more than one
Administrator on a computer. In Vista, there is only one true
Administrator, and that account is disabled in a default installation. Even
if you set up your initial account with administrator privileges, it still
isn't the actual Administrator. Therefore, there isn't a need to have
multiple Run as.... options, as there is only one Administrator.
 
P

Paul Sala

Right now I have only one account one my PC with Vista HomePre, that is
PAUL.

If I were enable the admin account:
1. would I then have the option of logging in as PAUL or ADMIN when I turn
my PC on?
2. could I remove the PAUL account and just use the ADMIN account as the
only account on the vista PC?

thanks...
 
J

Jake

I have a program which part of it requires me to run a set up file as a
normal user. I dont want it to run as admin. When I click a install file
in Vista it asks me to input the admin password. I dont want that. I want
the file to run in the limited account that I am in.
 
S

Synapse Syndrome

Jake said:
I have a program which part of it requires me to run a set up file as a
normal user. I dont want it to run as admin. When I click a install file
in Vista it asks me to input the admin password. I dont want that. I want
the file to run in the limited account that I am in.


But you cannot install things in a limited account. When you install things
as admin, it does not mean that the program runs as admin when it is being
run.

ss.
 
C

Charlie42

If I were enable the admin account:
1. would I then have the option of logging in as PAUL or ADMIN when I
turn my PC on?
Yes.

2. could I remove the PAUL account and just use the ADMIN account as the
only account on the vista PC?

Yes, but it's not recommended.

If you configured Vista with just one account during installation, that
would be an administrator account. You can check this out in Control Panel >
User Accounts and Family Safety > User Accounts.

It is recommended to keep at least two accounts on a machine: An admin
account, and a standard user account. Running as admin all the time leaves
your computer more exposed to malware, and allows users to make bigger
errors. You should configure another admin account, and change PAUL to a
standard user (in the Control Panel).

Charlie42
 
T

The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly

Jake said:
Hi,

I was wondering if there was a way of showing "Run as.." in Vista when right
clicking a shortcut or file. "Run as.." was a very handy function I used a
lot in Windows Xp. You could run a file as any user. It seems to have been
replaced by a "run as admin" link.

Jake

Have you tried holding down the shift key when right-clicking on the
selected object?

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creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
- Maura Corbett
 
J

Jake

I have a program for viewing digital maps called Fugawi. When I insert a
disk a program runs automatically. There are two buttons on this splash like
screen. One is install the map viewer and the other is copy maps to disk. I
install the map viewer by inserting the disk in admin account. I then shared
the program folder with other users on the computer. Then I log out and go
into a limited account. In windows XP i just clicked the program on the
disk that gave me the splash screen and it ran in the limited account and I
can then click the button to transfer the maps to disk. This was the only
way I could get the program to run properly. However in Vista when I click
an install or any program file it runs it as admin. I dont want this. I
want the program to run in the limited account.
 
S

Synapse Syndrome

Jake said:
I have a program for viewing digital maps called Fugawi. When I insert a
disk a program runs automatically. There are two buttons on this splash
like screen. One is install the map viewer and the other is copy maps to
disk. I install the map viewer by inserting the disk in admin account. I
then shared the program folder with other users on the computer. Then I
log out and go into a limited account. In windows XP i just clicked the
program on the disk that gave me the splash screen and it ran in the
limited account and I can then click the button to transfer the maps to
disk. This was the only way I could get the program to run properly.
However in Vista when I click an install or any program file it runs it as
admin. I dont want this. I want the program to run in the limited account.


I do not know if these discs have data that can be used with Global
Navigator, or if that is what you are using, but apparently the latest
version is Vista compatible.

http://www.fugawi.com/web/products/fugawi_global_navigator.htm

ss.
 
A

Andrew McLaren

Jake said:
I was wondering if there was a way of showing "Run as.." in Vista when
right clicking a shortcut or file. "Run as.." was a very handy function I
used a lot in Windows Xp. You could run a file as any user. It seems to
have been replaced by a "run as admin" link.

In the GUI, the only only option is to Run As Administrator.

From a command prompt, you can use the runas.exe command to run a program as
any arbiraty user; whether administrator or not. So for example:

C:\Users\User1>runas /user:user2 notepad

.... to run Notepad as User2, whhile logged in as User1. Do "runas /?" to see
the full syntax options.

Hope it helps,
 
G

Guest

Andrew McLaren said:
In the GUI, the only only option is to Run As Administrator.

But how do you do that? I still haven't managed to figure out how to make
Run As Administrator work.
It doesn't ask for a password, it just runs as me, regardless of whether I'm
logged in as a restricted user or as an admin.
From a command prompt, you can use the runas.exe command to run a program as
any arbiraty user; whether administrator or not. So for example:

C:\Users\User1>runas /user:user2 notepad

Ah, that works. Thanks! That will do as a workaround until I find the answer.

Pim
 
A

Andrew McLaren

Pim said:
But how do you do that? I still haven't managed to figure out how to make
Run As Administrator work.

You right-click the EXE file which launches the program, and then choose the
option "Run as Administrator" from the context menu which will appear.

So to run Notepad as Administrator, find C"\Windows\System32\Notepad.exe" in
Explorer, right-click the EXE file and choose Run as Administrator. If your
current user account is already a member of the Administrator's group, you
will need to provde your consent by pressing an OK button. If your current
user account is a Standard user, you will need to provide the account name
and password of an Administrator account, to perform the action.

Many Start Menu shortcuts will also allow you to do "Run as Administrator"
(as long as the Start Menu item is a shotcut to the EXE file). Just find the
icon for your program in the Start menu, and right-click.

Some Start Menu shortcuts don't allow "Run as Administrator" - in
particular, Office applications cannot be run as Administrator from teh
Start Menu. You need to locate the real WINWORD.EXE file (or whatever) and
run that. I suspect this is a technical oversight by Office.

You can also open a Command Prompt "as Administrator" - that is, find
Command Prompt in the Start menu, right-click it and choose "Run as
Administrator". Then any program you run from within the Command Prompt will
have the full administrative token.

In Vista, even if you are logged in as an administrator, the security token
attached to your logon is equivalent to the security token of a Standard
user. If you ask to perform some administrative action, such as "Run as
Administrator", then your security token gets elevated to a full
administator token for the duration of the requested operation. Then you
revert to being a normal user. This prevents viruses etc taking advantage of
the fact you are logged in as administrator, to perform insecure exploits on
your system configuration.

Hope it helps,
 
G

Guest

Jake said:
Hi,

I was wondering if there was a way of showing "Run as.." in Vista when right
clicking a shortcut or file. "Run as.." was a very handy function I used a
lot in Windows Xp. You could run a file as any user. It seems to have been
replaced by a "run as admin" link.

Jake
 
G

Guest

Jake said:
Hi,

I was wondering if there was a way of showing "Run as.." in Vista when right
clicking a shortcut or file. "Run as.." was a very handy function I used a
lot in Windows Xp. You could run a file as any user. It seems to have been
replaced by a "run as admin" link.

Jake
 
G

Guest

Jake said:
Hi,

I was wondering if there was a way of showing "Run as.." in Vista when right
clicking a shortcut or file. "Run as.." was a very handy function I used a
lot in Windows Xp. You could run a file as any user. It seems to have been
replaced by a "run as admin" link.

Jake

Go to Control Panel,- Appearance & Personalization, -Taskbar & Start
menu,-Select Start menu Tab,-Click Customize next to Start Menu line,-Scroll
3/4 down & Select "Run Command"... et voila....
 
G

Guest

Andrew McLaren said:
You right-click the EXE file which launches the program, and then choose the
option "Run as Administrator" from the context menu which will appear.

I know where it is. It just doesn't work the way it's supposed to!
"Run as Administrator" does the same thing as "Open": it runs the
application without doing anything special.
And then I get the "You're not privileged enough to run this program" error.

So after googling a bit about Vista, I tried switching the UAC off, but that
didn't help; it didn't make a difference.
I tried enabling the Administrator account, but that didn't make a
difference either. Well, it does show me the Administrator on the login
screen, but it doesn't do what I hoped it'd do.
Hope it helps,

No, sorry.
I can still use the runas command from the CLI though. And "Switch User" is
still there, so I'm not totally crippled. It's just frustrating to know that
there is a command that works on other computers, but not on mine. Oh well.
Thanks for trying to help anyway.

Oh, before you should ask: yes, I did turn UAC back on.

Pim
 
A

Andrew McLaren

Pim said:
I know where it is. It just doesn't work the way it's supposed to!
"Run as Administrator" does the same thing as "Open": it runs the
application without doing anything special.

Uh, okay ... sorry I didn't realise that from your earlier post.

In that case ... sorry, I dunno. It sounds like something fairly random is
broken on your system, but I'm not sure what ...

When you start an app with the "Run as Administrator" menu option in
Explorer, Explore.exe makes an RPC call to the AppInfo service ("Application
Information"). AppInfo then calls CONSENT.EXE to open the UAC prompt on the
session 0 desktop (and, blacks out the session 1 desktop as well). So I'd
guess that Explorer cannot make its RPC call to Appinfo service, or
CONSENT.EXE cannot run. Make sure that AppInfo service is running - at a
command prompt, enter the command "NET START" and look for "Application
Information" in the list of running services returned.

If AppInfo is running but Explorer doesn't prompt for elevation, then I'd
guess something has gone wrong in Explorer. But exactly what, I dunno. You
could either try a:

SFC /SCANNOW

command, to repair any damaged files; or do a System Restore back to a time
before the onset of the problem. Otherwise, I'd either live with it, or
re-install Windows.

Sorry I couldn't help more.
 
M

MrO

Thank you very, very much!

CanuckinLA said:
Go to Control Panel,- Appearance & Personalization, -Taskbar & Start
menu,-Select Start menu Tab,-Click Customize next to Start Menu line,-Scroll
3/4 down & Select "Run Command"... et voila....
 

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