Rubbish emails keep coming-help

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Another question even though I changed my email address a few months back I
still seem to get junk to my old email address, I thought that would not
work. They seem to send to me with the begining of my email different to
what it should be, why is it still getting through to me? Maybe you know the
answer, Thank you.
 
GLO said:
Hi
Trying to follow your advice which seems a good idea even though I have
Spamfighter which I pay for. I can follow up to click first name and last in
address book to high lite then click ok but then it puts me back to press
contacts again to go to the address book part. So I left that and did the
next part, so now I am not sure what needs repeating, any help would be
great, Thank you. At least you have gave me something that sounds that it
might work.
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Instead of fighting with rules and the lame OE, use Thunderbird like I
suggested in another post. It has an EXCELLENT spam filter, much better
than Spamfighter. It's free and can be downloaded from
http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird

Alias
 
BillW50 said:
I've never been impressed with Mozilla, nor Firefox myself. Way too lame
for my tastes. :)
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Firefox is a browser. Thunderbird is an email program. Being as
Thunderbird 2.0 just came out, it's doubtful you know what you're
talking about. I have tried all kinds of anti spam programs and T-Bird
is the best.

Alias
 
Alias said:
Firefox is a browser. Thunderbird is an email program. Being as
Thunderbird 2.0 just came out, it's doubtful you know what you're
talking about. I have tried all kinds of anti spam programs and T-Bird
is the best.
Click to expand...

Of course Firefox is a browser. Although Thunderbird and Firefox are
programmed by some of the same programmers. And Thunderbird could have
the *best* anti-spam tools on the market. Although I like to do more
than just block spam (something I don't get anyway).

I have tried many emailers like Thunderbird, Eudora, Netscape, etc. And
I keep coming back to Outlook Express because it is the fastest
operating emailer I know of. Outlook (2000) isn't too bad either. Wished
it did newsgroups though.

I'll tell you what. If you pay me $500, I'll run Thunderbird for 6
months. And if I like it after 6 months, I'll pay you back. Hell I'll
pay you back much sooner if I really like it. How does that sound to ya?
But if you are so sure people will like it, then you have nothing to
lose, right?
 
BillW50 said:
Of course Firefox is a browser. Although Thunderbird and Firefox are
programmed by some of the same programmers. And Thunderbird could have
the *best* anti-spam tools on the market. Although I like to do more
than just block spam (something I don't get anyway).
Click to expand...

It does everything OE does and more.
I have tried many emailers like Thunderbird, Eudora, Netscape, etc. And
I keep coming back to Outlook Express because it is the fastest
operating emailer I know of.
Click to expand...

It isn't any faster than T-Bird. It *is* more difficult to back up, has
no spam control and if you let the .dbx files get too big, you're asking
for trouble. If the lights go out when you're compacting messages, you
lose messages, etc.
Outlook (2000) isn't too bad either. Wished
it did newsgroups though.
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It does, although it uses OE to do it.
I'll tell you what. If you pay me $500, I'll run Thunderbird for 6
months. And if I like it after 6 months, I'll pay you back. Hell I'll
pay you back much sooner if I really like it. How does that sound to ya?
But if you are so sure people will like it, then you have nothing to
lose, right?
Click to expand...

And the reason you think I care what email program you use is? If you
want a better email program than OE, use T-Bird. If you're happy with
OE, use OE. Your choice.

Alias
 
Alias said:
It does everything OE does and more.
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Sure it does! Only if I had a dime every time told me that line. ;)
It isn't any faster than T-Bird. It *is* more difficult to back up,
has no spam control and if you let the .dbx files get too big, you're
asking for trouble. If the lights go out when you're compacting
messages, you lose messages, etc.
Click to expand...

I never had a compacting problem under OE ever! And I have been using it
since OE4 was released.
It does, although it uses OE to do it.
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That what I mean, I wish Outlook did newsgroups too, besides just email.
And the reason you think I care what email program you use is? If you
want a better email program than OE, use T-Bird. If you're happy with
OE, use OE. Your choice.
Click to expand...

Put up some money! Or it sounds like more broken promises.
 
Sure it does! Only if I had a dime every time told me that line. ;)
Click to expand...


Substitute any other software product name (in any category) for
Thunderbird and substitute the name of any competing product for OE.
It's never true. A never does everything B does and more, regardless
of what A and B are.

Any two competing products are different and have different strengths
and weaknesses. None "does everything [the other one] does and more."
Which of the two sets of features is best for a particular individual
depends on the individual--, how he works, how he uses the product,
and what's important to him. To mention but a single example, a
newsreader that does yENC isn't therefore better than one that
doesn't (like OE) for someone who has no use for such a feature.

When you evaluate different products that perform similar functions,
the issue is never simply which is *best*. The issue is which is
better for *you*.




I use Outlook (now Outlook 2007) for E-mail and I've been very happy
with it. When I started doing newsgroups, I started with Agent, and
liked it, but quickly switched to OE when I found that it suited my
needs better.

I've been using Windows Mail (OE's successor) for newsgroups under
Vista, but just started running into some difficulties with it. So I
thought this might be a good time to reevaluate Agent, since it's
changed significantly since I last used it.

I've been using Agent again for about a week now. I like the latest
version of Agent a lot--in some ways better than OE--and I think I'll
probably stick with it. But I'm certainly not willing to say anything
like "It does everything OE does and more." For my purposes, it's
better in some ways, the same in others, and worse in others. Nothing
is better than its competitors in every way possible.
 
Hi ELMO
I managed to do what you stated but I do not get any mail in my deleted
section and very few emails. I did it again to make sure I did it right but
it has made no difference. Why is nothing going to my deleted folder as it
is so quiet now, not that I am complaining, waiting for your reply, Tha
 
Ken Blake said:
Sure it does! Only if I had a dime every time told me that line. ;)
Click to expand...

Substitute any other software product name (in any category) for
Thunderbird and substitute the name of any competing product for OE.
It's never true. A never does everything B does and more, regardless
of what A and B are.

Any two competing products are different and have different strengths
and weaknesses. None "does everything [the other one] does and more."
Which of the two sets of features is best for a particular individual
depends on the individual--, how he works, how he uses the product,
and what's important to him. To mention but a single example, a
newsreader that does yENC isn't therefore better than one that
doesn't (like OE) for someone who has no use for such a feature.

When you evaluate different products that perform similar functions,
the issue is never simply which is *best*. The issue is which is
better for *you*.
Click to expand...

That is great Ken. But rarely if ever you hear about someone who
mentions that so and so program does something better than OE. Well one
claimed that it does better than OE in this case against spam, but that
doesn't tell me much. As spam filtering is on the low end of the scale
for me. I want to rest of the goodies. :)
I use Outlook (now Outlook 2007) for E-mail and I've been very happy
with it. When I started doing newsgroups, I started with Agent, and
liked it, but quickly switched to OE when I found that it suited my
needs better.
Click to expand...

I used OE and before that MS Mail & News v1.0. I used Agent and it
wasn't bad, but there was a few things that I liked better with OE.
Especially CTRL-H. Besides that Agent was much slower.
I've been using Windows Mail (OE's successor) for newsgroups under
Vista, but just started running into some difficulties with it. So I
thought this might be a good time to reevaluate Agent, since it's
changed significantly since I last used it.
Click to expand...

Fair enough. :) I never touched Windows Mail yet and I have so far put
them in the same camp as the rest of the OE want-to-be's.
I've been using Agent again for about a week now. I like the latest
version of Agent a lot--in some ways better than OE--and I think I'll
probably stick with it. But I'm certainly not willing to say anything
like "It does everything OE does and more." For my purposes, it's
better in some ways, the same in others, and worse in others. Nothing
is better than its competitors in every way possible.
Click to expand...

So true Ken. There are a few things that I would change in OE. But there
is nothing else out there that fills the void for me. Someday maybe. And
I am still waiting for it. :)
 
Fair enough. :) I never touched Windows Mail yet and I have so far put
them in the same camp as the rest of the OE want-to-be's.
Click to expand...


I wouldn't call it an OE want-to-be. It *is* OE. It's just the latest
version of OE, but Microsoft elected to give it a new name (that was
good--the old name was far too frequently confused with Outlook).
 
BillW50 said:
Sure it does! Only if I had a dime every time told me that line. ;)
Click to expand...

Actually, it does some things differently but the original reason for
recommending T-Bird is that is runs circles around OE for spam. It's
also *much* easier to back up.

Yet you haven't tried T-Bird 2.0. I have tried both.
I never had a compacting problem under OE ever! And I have been using it
since OE4 was released.
Click to expand...

You've been lucky. Try pulling the plug out of your computer while it's
compacting and see what happens. Do you dare? Try letting a .dbx file
get over a 500 hundred megs and then get back to me.
That what I mean, I wish Outlook did newsgroups too, besides just email.
Click to expand...

Thunderbird does both :-)
Put up some money! Or it sounds like more broken promises.
Click to expand...

I never promised to put up any money so how could I have broken a
promise I never made?

Alias
 
Sure it does! Only if I had a dime every time told me that line. ;)
Click to expand...


Substitute any other software product name (in any category) for
Thunderbird and substitute the name of any competing product for OE.
It's never true. A never does everything B does and more, regardless
of what A and B are.

Any two competing products are different and have different strengths
and weaknesses. None "does everything [the other one] does and more."
Which of the two sets of features is best for a particular individual
depends on the individual--, how he works, how he uses the product,
and what's important to him. To mention but a single example, a
newsreader that does yENC isn't therefore better than one that
doesn't (like OE) for someone who has no use for such a feature.

When you evaluate different products that perform similar functions,
the issue is never simply which is *best*. The issue is which is
better for *you*.




I use Outlook (now Outlook 2007) for E-mail and I've been very happy
with it. When I started doing newsgroups, I started with Agent, and
liked it, but quickly switched to OE when I found that it suited my
needs better.

I've been using Windows Mail (OE's successor) for newsgroups under
Vista, but just started running into some difficulties with it. So I
thought this might be a good time to reevaluate Agent, since it's
changed significantly since I last used it.

I've been using Agent again for about a week now. I like the latest
version of Agent a lot--in some ways better than OE--and I think I'll
probably stick with it. But I'm certainly not willing to say anything
like "It does everything OE does and more." For my purposes, it's
better in some ways, the same in others, and worse in others. Nothing
is better than its competitors in every way possible.
Click to expand...

What you say is true but the OP has a problem with spam which T-Bird
addresses much better than OE.

Alias
 
Ken Blake said:
I wouldn't call it an OE want-to-be. It *is* OE. It's just the latest
version of OE, but Microsoft elected to give it a new name (that was
good--the old name was far too frequently confused with Outlook).
Click to expand...

I have a hard time believing that. As I heard it isn't anything like OE.
It is totally different. Do you disagree?
 
Alias said:
BillW50 wrote:
Firefox is a browser. Thunderbird is an email program. Being as
Thunderbird 2.0 just came out, it's doubtful you know what you're
talking about. I have tried all kinds of anti spam programs and
T-Bird is the best.
Of course Firefox is a browser. Although Thunderbird and Firefox
are programmed by some of the same programmers. And Thunderbird
could have the *best* anti-spam tools on the market. Although I
like to do more than just block spam (something I don't get
anyway).
It does everything OE does and more.
Sure it does! Only if I had a dime every time told me that line. ;)
Click to expand...


Substitute any other software product name (in any category) for
Thunderbird and substitute the name of any competing product for OE.
It's never true. A never does everything B does and more, regardless
of what A and B are.

Any two competing products are different and have different strengths
and weaknesses. None "does everything [the other one] does and more."
Which of the two sets of features is best for a particular individual
depends on the individual--, how he works, how he uses the product,
and what's important to him. To mention but a single example, a
newsreader that does yENC isn't therefore better than one that
doesn't (like OE) for someone who has no use for such a feature.

When you evaluate different products that perform similar functions,
the issue is never simply which is *best*. The issue is which is
better for *you*.

I have tried many emailers like Thunderbird, Eudora, Netscape,
etc. And I keep coming back to Outlook Express because it is the
fastest operating emailer I know of.
Click to expand...



I use Outlook (now Outlook 2007) for E-mail and I've been very happy
with it. When I started doing newsgroups, I started with Agent, and
liked it, but quickly switched to OE when I found that it suited my
needs better.

I've been using Windows Mail (OE's successor) for newsgroups under
Vista, but just started running into some difficulties with it. So I
thought this might be a good time to reevaluate Agent, since it's
changed significantly since I last used it.

I've been using Agent again for about a week now. I like the latest
version of Agent a lot--in some ways better than OE--and I think I'll
probably stick with it. But I'm certainly not willing to say anything
like "It does everything OE does and more." For my purposes, it's
better in some ways, the same in others, and worse in others. Nothing
is better than its competitors in every way possible.
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Click to expand...

What you say is true but the OP has a problem with spam which T-Bird
addresses much better than OE.
Click to expand...

Really? Ken mentioned two rules to wipe everything out under OE and you
had mentioned no rules to do anything. So who are we going to believe?
Seriously?
 
Alias said:
Actually, it does some things differently but the original reason for
recommending T-Bird is that is runs circles around OE for spam. It's
also *much* easier to back up.
Click to expand...

Sure it is. I do nothing and T-bird is easier than nothing?
Yet you haven't tried T-Bird 2.0. I have tried both.


You've been lucky. Try pulling the plug out of your computer while
it's compacting and see what happens. Do you dare? Try letting a .dbx
file get over a 500 hundred megs and then get back to me.
Click to expand...

Mind has been 1GB. Nothing so far.
Thunderbird does both :-)
Click to expand...

So does Outlook Express.
I never promised to put up any money so how could I have broken a
promise I never made?
Click to expand...

Oh make claims without backing them up. Okay I (we) got your number. :)
 
n Fri, 25 May 2007 09:22:21 -0400, "Daave"
That may be the case, but not because of posting to this newsgroup,
presumably using the Web interface.
Click to expand...

Newsgroups are archived on the web. I used to use my real email
address and can still find it in old messages when I search.
 
BillW50 said:
Alias said:
BillW50 wrote:
Firefox is a browser. Thunderbird is an email program. Being as
Thunderbird 2.0 just came out, it's doubtful you know what you're
talking about. I have tried all kinds of anti spam programs and
T-Bird is the best.
Of course Firefox is a browser. Although Thunderbird and Firefox
are programmed by some of the same programmers. And Thunderbird
could have the *best* anti-spam tools on the market. Although I
like to do more than just block spam (something I don't get
anyway).
It does everything OE does and more.
Sure it does! Only if I had a dime every time told me that line. ;)


Substitute any other software product name (in any category) for
Thunderbird and substitute the name of any competing product for OE.
It's never true. A never does everything B does and more, regardless
of what A and B are.

Any two competing products are different and have different strengths
and weaknesses. None "does everything [the other one] does and more."
Which of the two sets of features is best for a particular individual
depends on the individual--, how he works, how he uses the product,
and what's important to him. To mention but a single example, a
newsreader that does yENC isn't therefore better than one that
doesn't (like OE) for someone who has no use for such a feature.

When you evaluate different products that perform similar functions,
the issue is never simply which is *best*. The issue is which is
better for *you*.


I have tried many emailers like Thunderbird, Eudora, Netscape,
etc. And I keep coming back to Outlook Express because it is the
fastest operating emailer I know of.



I use Outlook (now Outlook 2007) for E-mail and I've been very happy
with it. When I started doing newsgroups, I started with Agent, and
liked it, but quickly switched to OE when I found that it suited my
needs better.

I've been using Windows Mail (OE's successor) for newsgroups under
Vista, but just started running into some difficulties with it. So I
thought this might be a good time to reevaluate Agent, since it's
changed significantly since I last used it.

I've been using Agent again for about a week now. I like the latest
version of Agent a lot--in some ways better than OE--and I think I'll
probably stick with it. But I'm certainly not willing to say anything
like "It does everything OE does and more." For my purposes, it's
better in some ways, the same in others, and worse in others. Nothing
is better than its competitors in every way possible.
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Click to expand...

What you say is true but the OP has a problem with spam which T-Bird
addresses much better than OE.
Click to expand...

Really? Ken mentioned two rules to wipe everything out under OE and you
had mentioned no rules to do anything. So who are we going to believe?
Seriously?
Click to expand...

Those two rules do NOT wipe out everything. One has to search the
deleted items for any emails that come from someone not in the address
book. The rules are fine for someone that only communicates with those
in their address books but for a business they would be useless.

Alias
 
BillW50 said:
Sure it is. I do nothing and T-bird is easier than nothing?


Mind has been 1GB. Nothing so far.


So does Outlook Express.


Oh make claims without backing them up. Okay I (we) got your number. :)
Click to expand...

Open OE. Start the compacting process. Pull out the power plug to your
computer. Get back to me. Until then, STFU.

Alias
 
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