REQ: small zip utility


M

ms

Need a very small executable (50 KB desirable) GUI archive utility to
include on a floppy. The resulting zipped files need to be compatible
with the normal Winzip clone archive programs for unzipping.

Mike Sa
 
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MightyKitten

ms said:
Need a very small executable (50 KB desirable) GUI archive utility to
include on a floppy. The resulting zipped files need to be compatible
with the normal Winzip clone archive programs for unzipping.

Mike Sa
smallest if found (after a quick search) is freezip at 250 KB
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nulifetv/freezip/ , you might get something
smaller, if you search for a Visual Basic created utilitiy without the
runtime enviroment.

By the way, what is small?, look at a definition of a 'small'
Also notice the licence type and the according price...
http://www.brothersoft.com/Utilities_File_Compression_FreeZip_3847.html

MigthyKitten
 
M

ms

MightyKitten said:
smallest if found (after a quick search) is freezip at 250 KB
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nulifetv/freezip/ , you might get something
smaller, if you search for a Visual Basic created utilitiy without the
runtime enviroment.

By the way, what is small?, look at a definition of a 'small'
Also notice the licence type and the according price...
http://www.brothersoft.com/Utilities_File_Compression_FreeZip_3847.html

MigthyKitten
Freezip is fairly small, but it installs. I need a small (about 50 KB as
I said) executable for a floppy, not an install type.

Mike Sa
 
M

ms

Onno said:
The smallest I know is 100K Zipper.

http://qzip.cjb.net/
Yes, the previous version gave me BSOD before using it, current version-
can't figure out how to create a zipped file. A normal archiver has
"Create" for that function.

Mike Sa
 
O

omega

ms said:
Freezip is fairly small, but it installs. I need a small (about 50 KB as
I said) executable for a floppy, not an install type.
Freebyte Zip is standalone and no-install. It's 325k, which is larger
than you wished, but it is GUI, simple, and clean. Note, though, it
only does .zip and .exe.

http://www.freebyte.com/fbzip/

For very small, there is Dzip. The problem is that it only does its only
special compression format (.dz and .pak). Depends on your purposes, if
that would be something you'd want to use.

http://planetquake.com/sda/dzip/

It is distributed only as an install. But if you wanted it, I could upload
its files (an exe, a readme, a couple of DLLs), so that you could bypass
the installer, along with its explorer integration. The exe is 88k, and
UPX brings it down to 51k. Add in another ~40k for DLLs (non UPX'd size).

Other choices? I've right now launched the tinyapps.org site.

http://www.tinyapps.org/file.html

Freezip is listed there. And I see the earlier version of Fbzip listed,
when it was named HJzip.

Something named Xacrett is linked. It supports many formats. I bet it's
install, but you could take a look.

http://www.kmonos.net/lib/xacrett.en.html

Then I see one called 100K Zipper. Sounds simple and standalone. I bet you
have a fair shot that it might be available as a no-install. I'll leave the
investigations to you...

http://www.quickzip.org/quickzip/information.php
 
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omega

.... http://www.quickzip.org/quickzip/information.php

I went ahead and checked this. Meets your specs the best. It's a no-install
executable, 80k.

http://home.netvigator.com/~mso6f/100ziper.exe

DESCRIPTION

| 100K_Zipper
|
| QuickZip Lite was quite small (300kb) when it first started and
| after adding more and more features (mainly cake) it became about
| 800kb now which seems too large in some cases.
|
| 100K_Zipper is a .zip only archiver. You can create, open, extract
| and check out .zip files. It doesn't require any installation and
| it has to be one of the smallest zippers available today.
|
| It's target is 100k (currently 69k) and we plan to add more
| functions over time.
 
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omega

ms said:
can't figure out how to create a zipped file. A normal archiver has
"Create" for that function.
1a. File> New (or icon "NEW")
1b. SaveAs dialog comes up. Make a name: whatever.zip.

2a. Actions> Add (or icon "ADD")
2b. Browse for files, multi-select them.

3. Close.

Basically it's that it wants to be told a save name as the first step.
Prior to letting you tell it what files for the archive.
 
M

ms

omega said:
Freebyte Zip is standalone and no-install. It's 325k, which is larger
than you wished, but it is GUI, simple, and clean. Note, though, it
only does .zip and .exe.

http://www.freebyte.com/fbzip/
Thanks for the info, even if I snipped (answered in your other reply)

I know about Henk's Freebyte Zip, use it, too big for a floppy.

But there was another called Freezip, it did install as a context menu
item, no good for a floopy.

Mike Sa

When I ran the f
 
M

ms

omega said:
... http://www.quickzip.org/quickzip/information.php

I went ahead and checked this. Meets your specs the best. It's a no-install
executable, 80k.

http://home.netvigator.com/~mso6f/100ziper.exe

DESCRIPTION

| 100K_Zipper
|
| QuickZip Lite was quite small (300kb) when it first started and
| after adding more and more features (mainly cake) it became about
| 800kb now which seems too large in some cases.
|
| 100K_Zipper is a .zip only archiver. You can create, open, extract
| and check out .zip files. It doesn't require any installation and
| it has to be one of the smallest zippers available today.
|
| It's target is 100k (currently 69k) and we plan to add more
| functions over time.
Yes, the current version loads OK, the last version caused BSOD in W98SE
every time I ran it.

Mike Sa
 
M

ms

omega said:
1a. File> New (or icon "NEW")
1b. SaveAs dialog comes up. Make a name: whatever.zip.

2a. Actions> Add (or icon "ADD")
2b. Browse for files, multi-select them.

3. Close.

Basically it's that it wants to be told a save name as the first step.
Prior to letting you tell it what files for the archive.
Thanks for that, Karen. I will try it.

Mike Sa
 
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ms

omega said:
1a. File> New (or icon "NEW")
1b. SaveAs dialog comes up. Make a name: whatever.zip.

2a. Actions> Add (or icon "ADD")
2b. Browse for files, multi-select them.

3. Close.

Basically it's that it wants to be told a save name as the first step.
Prior to letting you tell it what files for the archive.
That works fine, and thanks again. It will be interesting when I am on
the "destination" computer on my trip, if some of these small utilities
I'm bringing along don't work in XP.

Mike Sa
 
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Phred

Thanks for the info, even if I snipped (answered in your other reply)

I know about Henk's Freebyte Zip, use it, too big for a floppy.

But there was another called Freezip, it did install as a context menu
item, no good for a floopy.
Pity that PKZIP 2.04g is probably still technically shareware. It's
only 42 KB (but you also need PKUNZIP and PKZIPFIX for the full
bottle, and they add 29 and 8 KB respectively).


Cheers, Phred.
 
M

ms

Phred said:
snip

Pity that PKZIP 2.04g is probably still technically shareware. It's
only 42 KB (but you also need PKUNZIP and PKZIPFIX for the full
bottle, and they add 29 and 8 KB respectively).

Cheers, Phred.
Thanks for mentioning it. I have it, a DOS utility, a little more work
than a GUI.

Mike Sa
 
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Phred

Thanks for mentioning it. I have it, a DOS utility, a little more work
than a GUI.
Mike, do you want a ZIP file as such, or would you consider LHA?
I was reminded of the old LHA compression algorithm by that EXE/ZIP
discussion in another thread this evening.

Yoshi's LHA.EXE 2.55 is only 36 KB and includes both compression and
extraction, as well as the option for self-extraction. It's a
beautiful little freeware DOS utility which I used routinely for years
until WinZIP appeared and everyone seemed to adopt that.

Here's the "Help" (enter LHA at prompt without arguments to get it)
[slightly edited from the DOS screen to eliminate line breaks here]

C:\>lha
LHA version 2.55 Copyright (c) Haruyasu Yoshizaki, 1988-92
=== << A High-Performance File-Compression Program >> == 11/15/92 ===
Usage:
LHA <command> [/option[-+012|WDIR]] <archive[.LZH]> [DIR\] [filenames]
----------------------------------------------------------------------
<command>
a: Add files u: Update files m: Move files
f: Freshen files d: Delete files p: disPlay files
e: Extract files x: eXtract files with pathnames
l: List of files v: View listing of files with pathnames
s: make Self-extracting archive t: Test the integrity of archive
<option>
r: Recursively collect files w: assign Work directory
x: allow eXtended file names m: no Message for query
p: distinguish full Path names c: skip time-stamp Check
a: allow any Attributes of files z: Zero compression (only store)
t: archive's Time-stamp option h: select Header level(default=1)
o: use Old compatible method n: display No indicator/pathname
i: not Ignore lower case l: display Long name with indicator
s: Skip by time is not reported -: '@' and/or '-' as usual letters
d: pack Directory name also f: Force to write without check
======================================================================
You may copy or distribute this software free NIFTY-Serve SDI00506
of charge. For use as a part of commercial or PC-VAN FEM12376
of shared distributions, see our distribution ASCII-NET pcs02846
policy in Manual.
C:\>

The algorithm has been implemented on a number of OSes and source code
seems to be available too (at least in some cases). For example, see:
http://members.aol.com/DuckGroup/lha_comp.html
http://datacompression.info/LHA.shtml

You can download version 2.55e (64 KB including docs etc.) at:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Hub/3650/lharev.html

I think 2.55 was the last English version of LHA for MSDOS.
A quick squiz at the manual shows it can do quite a lot!
(Rather more than I ever used in fact. :)


Cheers, Phred.
 
M

ms

Phred said:
Mike, do you want a ZIP file as such, or would you consider LHA?
I was reminded of the old LHA compression algorithm by that EXE/ZIP
discussion in another thread this evening.

Yoshi's LHA.EXE 2.55 is only 36 KB and includes both compression and
extraction, as well as the option for self-extraction. It's a
beautiful little freeware DOS utility which I used routinely for years
until WinZIP appeared and everyone seemed to adopt that.
snip

Thanks, and I saveed it to look at. Need to find out if a zip in LHA can
be unzipped by a Winzip clone.

Mike Sa
 
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Phred

Phred wrote: [snip]
Mike, do you want a ZIP file as such, or would you consider LHA?
I was reminded of the old LHA compression algorithm by that EXE/ZIP
discussion in another thread this evening.

Yoshi's LHA.EXE 2.55 is only 36 KB and includes both compression and
extraction, as well as the option for self-extraction. It's a
beautiful little freeware DOS utility which I used routinely for years
until WinZIP appeared and everyone seemed to adopt that.
snip

Thanks, and I saveed it to look at. Need to find out if a zip in LHA can
be unzipped by a Winzip clone.
Your comment prompted me to have a squiz at this issue myself. (Took a
couple of attempts to set up a test file though -- a hiatus of about 7
years was a bit too much for my memory of the command line syntax. :cool:

Just double-clicked on the resulting test.LZH file in Windows Explorer
and that opened WinZip 8.0 and showed the contents okay. :)
But it wouldn't extract them without "the external LHA program". :(
(There was an implication in the full error message that LHA could be
installed as a plug-in or similar for WinZip, but I haven't followed
this up as I'm not really familiar with the details of WinZip.)


Cheers, Phred.
 
K

Kanda' Jalen Eirsie

Greetings...

Thanks, and I saveed it to look at. Need to find out if a zip in LHA can
be unzipped by a Winzip clone.

Mike Sa
Ah yes, The standard Lemple Huffman Algorithm.. LHA - copied straight out of Computer
Shopper Magazine Circa 1992 and hit the BBS systems soon after... It better be Freeware!
The algorithm was declared Public domain quite a while ago!

Depends on the Clone you are reffering to... And the version... Winzip itself actually
uses LHA to do the work...

The same for .ARC, .SEA, .PAK, .LZ, and all the other old failed archivers that were
either killed or missing in action during the BBS archive wars of the late 80's early
90's.... .ZIP - ex .PAK came out the clear winner until lately challenged by .RAR - A
clearly superior repairable archiver that is poised to take over the world with the help
of it's allies PAR and PAR2... ( it really should have been called Son of PAR, whereas
version 3 should be known as PAR meats Bambi : pun intended)


ll
Kanda'

<>SPAM-KILLER<>- If you really want to contact me, then -
kandaje<at>bresnan<dot>net

You figure it out...
 
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Phred

Greetings...



Ah yes, The standard Lemple Huffman Algorithm.. LHA - copied straight out of Computer
Shopper Magazine Circa 1992 and hit the BBS systems soon after... It better be Freeware!
You need to keep up with things, mate. Yoshi's copyright notice for
his *program* dates from 1988, presumably because that's when he
released the first version of lha.exe (and it *is* freeware :).
http://members.aol.com/DuckGroup/lha_comp.html
The algorithm was declared Public domain quite a while ago!

Cheers, Phred.
 
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Ardent

X-No-Archive: yes

Thanks for mentioning it. I have it, a DOS utility, a little more work
than a GUI.
I see that no one has mentioned Winimp which has a lot of features for
the small size, it can handle other types too than zip and been for me
working flawlessly for more than two years now.

http://www.technelysium.com.au/winimp.html

There is no further development of the program and maybe it is not
available at the above url (which id from the About dialog box of the
program), You can also ask Google.
 
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