removal of vista boot manager (please help)

[Josh Einstein]

Are you referring to the BIOS configuration (usually F10)? That doesn't have
anything to do with being a boot manager and nothing Windows can do would
change the behavior of that.

If you're referring to things like safe mode, last known good configuration,
boot logging options, etc. Those things have nothing to do with BIOS and are
controlled by boot.ini on XP. Vista has its own boot configuration settings
that don't use boot.ini.

I think maybe it's time to just delete all the partitions and start over
with a fresh install of XP.

 

[Josh Einstein]

Can I ask why you selectively quoted part of my sentence in order to make it
appear as though I was telling him what to do?

And the reason that the OS modifies the MBR is because 99.9999% of the time
(no that's not a factual number, just making a point) people are *not* dual
booting and by overwriting the MBR and installing its boot loader it can fix
messed up situations like this one for the more common case where someone is
just trying to get one OS to boot correctly.

 

[Steven Wabik]

oh by the way, the BOIS in older machines and in some newer machines can be
reinstalled via floppy.

the computer i have has a BIOS with a sub-level on it for boot and recovery
managemant. there was something in the computers documentation about where
this can be deleted, if the recovey partition was deleted but the recovery
partition still exists.

 

[Steven Wabik]

no i am not. after the main BIOS slash screen comes up and disapears with
the F9 and F10 come up and disapear another screen comes up with more boot
options and stuff. well it used to. it disapeared after vista was removed
from my system. this boot screen was apart of the BIOS. it gave F11, F12,
and F13 options.

it also allowed me to boot from floppy, CD, DVD, and external hard drives.
even though the F11, F12, and F13 options are gone i can still boot from the
floppy drives and stuff when they are attached to my tablet PC.

 

[Steven Wabik]

vista does does seem to mess up everything.

Can I ask why you selectively quoted part of my sentence in order to make
it appear as though I was telling him what to do?

And the reason that the OS modifies the MBR is because 99.9999% of the
time (no that's not a factual number, just making a point) people are
*not* dual booting and by overwriting the MBR and installing its boot
loader it can fix messed up situations like this one for the more common
case where someone is just trying to get one OS to boot correctly.

 

[Josh Einstein]

vista does does seem to mess up everything.

No, you seem to mess up everything.

Both of the issues you posted about recently (one of them was in XP) had to
do with you messing up your system by changing settings or doing advanced
things that you don't understand. Go mess around at the command prompt on
Mac or Linux and you'll see that you can mess up any OS if you play around
with settings and configurations blindly. But that's why Microsoft put
system restore into the OS. So that when people do stuff like that, you can
roll back. The catch here though is that you can't mess things up to the
point that you can't boot the computer.

But even that you can fix with the bootable Vista DVD.

 

[techbob]

Did you try booting from your XP cd and from the repair console issuing the
command : fixboot

I did this with a fixboot when dual-booting a Win and Linux box. It did
not work. I had to run the command fixmbr from the repair console.

The rest remains the same.