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Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.
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Nepatsfan
Not including a warning that SP3 shouldn't be installed on a production machine
is irresponsible. Just FYI.
Nepatsfan
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VanguardLH
Release Candidate
Microsoft's way to hide that it is still just another BETA release.
Enjoy the voluntary beta testing.
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Colin Barnhorst
The download details page does that.
Nepatsfan said:Not including a warning that SP3 shouldn't be installed on a production
machine is irresponsible. Just FYI.
Nepatsfan
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Nepatsfan
Colin,
With all due respect, I stand by my original response. It cannot be stressed
enough that SP3 is not a finished product. Many of the users looking for help on
these newsgroups have no idea what "Release Candidate" and "Beta software" mean.
Neither the OP or the web site he posted make mention of this fact. While you're
correct that the instructions section of the download site includes a warning,
it's a weak one.
I may be wrong, but it's my opinion that someone taking the OP's advice and
installing SP3 will end up with their main computer hosed. And if you think the
OP will be around to help them get back in business, check out some of his
contributions to the Vista General newsgroup.
Nepatsfan
With all due respect, I stand by my original response. It cannot be stressed
enough that SP3 is not a finished product. Many of the users looking for help on
these newsgroups have no idea what "Release Candidate" and "Beta software" mean.
Neither the OP or the web site he posted make mention of this fact. While you're
correct that the instructions section of the download site includes a warning,
it's a weak one.
I may be wrong, but it's my opinion that someone taking the OP's advice and
installing SP3 will end up with their main computer hosed. And if you think the
OP will be around to help them get back in business, check out some of his
contributions to the Vista General newsgroup.
Nepatsfan
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David H. Lipman
From: "Nepatsfan" <[email protected]>
| Colin,
|
| With all due respect, I stand by my original response. It cannot be stressed
| enough that SP3 is not a finished product. Many of the users looking for help on
| these newsgroups have no idea what "Release Candidate" and "Beta software" mean.
| Neither the OP or the web site he posted make mention of this fact. While you're
| correct that the instructions section of the download site includes a warning,
| it's a weak one.
|
| I may be wrong, but it's my opinion that someone taking the OP's advice and
| installing SP3 will end up with their main computer hosed. And if you think the
| OP will be around to help them get back in business, check out some of his
| contributions to the Vista General newsgroup.
|
| Nepatsfan
|
You are NOT wrong and your assertion of him in m.p.w.v.g is correct.
Many of his OT posts are removed daily.
| Colin,
|
| With all due respect, I stand by my original response. It cannot be stressed
| enough that SP3 is not a finished product. Many of the users looking for help on
| these newsgroups have no idea what "Release Candidate" and "Beta software" mean.
| Neither the OP or the web site he posted make mention of this fact. While you're
| correct that the instructions section of the download site includes a warning,
| it's a weak one.
|
| I may be wrong, but it's my opinion that someone taking the OP's advice and
| installing SP3 will end up with their main computer hosed. And if you think the
| OP will be around to help them get back in business, check out some of his
| contributions to the Vista General newsgroup.
|
| Nepatsfan
|
You are NOT wrong and your assertion of him in m.p.w.v.g is correct.
Many of his OT posts are removed daily.
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Colin Barnhorst
All I said was Microsoft puts the appropriate disclaimers on the Downloads
Details pages. Don't overreact either.
Details pages. Don't overreact either.
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Colin Barnhorst
Kev is well known.
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Tecknomage
Colin,
With all due respect, I stand by my original response. It cannot be stressed
enough that SP3 is not a finished product. Many of the users looking for help on
these newsgroups have no idea what "Release Candidate" and "Beta software" mean.
Neither the OP or the web site he posted make mention of this fact. While you're
correct that the instructions section of the download site includes a warning,
it's a weak one.
I may be wrong, but it's my opinion that someone taking the OP's advice and
installing SP3 will end up with their main computer hosed. And if you think the
OP will be around to help them get back in business, check out some of his
contributions to the Vista General newsgroup.
Nepatsfan
MAY BE OFF TOPIC:
We OEM WinXP where I work. The latest WinXP OEM package is "WinXP
SP2c" previously it was "SP2b." The OEM (OPK notification) Program
sent a notice that when using "SP2c" package you had to redo the OEM
install image.
I wonder if the SP2c is equivalent to SP3 or just SP2 with all updates
included. Anyone know?
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Colin Barnhorst
SP3 contains changes to some functionalities and a few new functionalities
(mostly networking ) that are not addressed in any SP2x. The best way to
assess this is to review the white paper on what is new (not covered by just
being up to date with WU):
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...AD-BC34-40BE-8D85-6BB4F56F5110&displaylang=en
(mostly networking ) that are not addressed in any SP2x. The best way to
assess this is to review the white paper on what is new (not covered by just
being up to date with WU):
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...AD-BC34-40BE-8D85-6BB4F56F5110&displaylang=en
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David H. Lipman
From: "Tecknomage" <[email protected]>
| On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:35:33 -0500, "Nepatsfan"
| MAY BE OFF TOPIC:
|
| We OEM WinXP where I work. The latest WinXP OEM package is "WinXP
| SP2c" previously it was "SP2b." The OEM (OPK notification) Program
| sent a notice that when using "SP2c" package you had to redo the OEM
| install image.
|
| I wonder if the SP2c is equivalent to SP3 or just SP2 with all updates
| included. Anyone know?
|
Updates, HotFixes, were slip-streamed into the SP2 build.
| On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:35:33 -0500, "Nepatsfan"
| MAY BE OFF TOPIC:
|
| We OEM WinXP where I work. The latest WinXP OEM package is "WinXP
| SP2c" previously it was "SP2b." The OEM (OPK notification) Program
| sent a notice that when using "SP2c" package you had to redo the OEM
| install image.
|
| I wonder if the SP2c is equivalent to SP3 or just SP2 with all updates
| included. Anyone know?
|
Updates, HotFixes, were slip-streamed into the SP2 build.
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PaulMaudib
So?
This is BETA software. Discussing it is off topic here, so please
take this crap elsewhere
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Colin Barnhorst
This is an XP General newsgroup. Discussions are not OT. The sniping that
goes on here is what is OT.
goes on here is what is OT.
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Tecknomage
So?
This is BETA software. Discussing it is off topic here, so please
take this crap elsewhere
Yes RC = Release Candidate = BETA
From the "Windows XP Service Pack 3 Release Candidate 2" page,
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...99-12af-42b2-aab1-b969a62c68a7&DisplayLang=en
"Please visit the Windows XP SP3 TechCenter to provide feedback on
this beta release."
Also: "Windows XP Service Pack 3 will be offered on Windows Update
when Service Pack 3 releases in the first half of 2008."
You may want to download the SP3 Overview PDF from this page:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...ad-bc34-40be-8d85-6bb4f56f5110&DisplayLang=en
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Colin Barnhorst
No, RC=Release Candidate=Pre-Release software but not all pre-release
software is still in beta stage. You are using "beta" as a perjorative.
There is no need to do that.
software is still in beta stage. You are using "beta" as a perjorative.
There is no need to do that.
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Tecknomage
No, RC=Release Candidate=Pre-Release software but not all pre-release
software is still in beta stage. You are using "beta" as a perjorative.
There is no need to do that.
Did you note the exact quote from the download page. I copy-pasted the
phrase. It is Microsoft calling RC a BETA.
They do NOT call the download "RC2 BETA" which would be consistent
with your interpretation.