Reinstallation of XP

[PTK]

hi,

Can any one guide me in my small problem?
recently I changed my operating system from windows xp to Fedora 8 .
now, when I am trying reinstall windows xp, after reading the cd (click any
button to boot from CD), its showing blank screen and nothing happens.
The system is IBM THINKPAD X60s.
again i tried with IBM recovery cd and same thing happens.

PLS. some help .....

 

[BillW50]

In PTK typed on Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:50:01 -0700:

hi,

Can any one guide me in my small problem?
recently I changed my operating system from windows xp to Fedora 8 .
now, when I am trying reinstall windows xp, after reading the cd
(click any button to boot from CD), its showing blank screen and
nothing happens.
The system is IBM THINKPAD X60s.
again i tried with IBM recovery cd and same thing happens.

PLS. some help .....

You need to delete the Linux partition(s) first.

 

[BillW50]

In philo typed on Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:22:38 -0500:

No

does not matter what's on the HD

No, there is a bug with the XP install disc. It goes blank screen and
freezes if the active partition is Linux. Windows 7 install disc is okay
and works fine. Which can be used to remove the Linux partition and then
you can install XP.

 

[Malke]

BillW50 wrote:

No, there is a bug with the XP install disc. It goes blank screen and
freezes if the active partition is Linux. Windows 7 install disc is okay
and works fine. Which can be used to remove the Linux partition and then
you can install XP.

That's ridiculous. I've installed XP many times on hard drives which used to
hold Linux. As philo said, the OP should be able to boot from the CD and
install Windows with no problem. Since he can't do this from either an XP CD
or from the IBM recovery CDs, something is probably wrong with his drive.

Malke

 

[BillW50]

In Malke typed on Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:06:35 -0700:

That's ridiculous. I've installed XP many times on hard drives which
used to hold Linux. As philo said, the OP should be able to boot from
the CD and install Windows with no problem. Since he can't do this
from either an XP CD or from the IBM recovery CDs, something is
probably wrong with his drive.

I don't care what you or I have done. Just do a Google search and learn
many people are having the same problem as the OP. Are you calling them
liars?

 

[Daave]

In Malke typed on Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:06:35 -0700:

I don't care what you or I have done. Just do a Google search and
learn many people are having the same problem as the OP. Are you
calling them liars?

Malke and philo are talking about a Clean Install instead of a dual
boot. No one is calling anyone a liar!

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html#steps

 

[BillW50]

In Daave typed on Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:36:28 -0400:

Malke and philo are talking about a Clean Install instead of a dual
boot. No one is calling anyone a liar!

I'm also talking about a clean install. See for yourself.

http://en.kioskea.net/forum/affich-29081-how-to-format-linux-and-install-xp

 

[BillW50]

In philo typed on Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:29:34 -0500:

Rubbish

nothing to do with Linux being on the drive

Nonsense! Not all Linux distros are created equal. Some disallows XP
from being installed.

http://en.kioskea.net/forum/affich-29081-how-to-format-linux-and-install-xp

 

[Paul]

hi,

Can any one guide me in my small problem?
recently I changed my operating system from windows xp to Fedora 8 .
now, when I am trying reinstall windows xp, after reading the cd (click any
button to boot from CD), its showing blank screen and nothing happens.
The system is IBM THINKPAD X60s.
again i tried with IBM recovery cd and same thing happens.

PLS. some help .....

Do you know, whether any special properties of the Thinkpad,
rely on the contents of the MBR ? Perhaps when Fedora
was installed, and the MBR was rewritten, it upset
some quirk of the Thinkpad ?

Normally, you'd expect the CD should boot, rather than
having no response at all. You could still have problems
installing, but at the very least, the Windows installer
CD should start to boot.

The Thinkpads, do have potential security options, and it is
hard to guess what side effects that might have on the "general usage"
of the computer. Some of the security features are of the
"shoot yourself in the foot" variety, because to reset the
passwords may involve some expense. So I hope it isn't
something like that.

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-62845#sec

Paul

 

[BillW50]

In philo typed on Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:10:17 -0500:

I read the thread and the poster did not seem to know what he was
doing...or... who knows maybe had a H/W problem

However just to confirm
I took my machine that has Ubuntu installed on it
and used an XP disc to bootup to the installer just fine.

I have seen machines balk when booting from an XP cd
and the problem was always due to a hardware problem

ROTFL! Ubuntu is only one Linux distro. Have you tried the likes of
Fedora yet? By the way, try Ubuntu Live and convert it with UNetbootin
to boot from a flash drive. Then just boot and don't touch your XP
partition at all. And you have iBand (from US Robotics - free)
installed. Your XP will be toasted and unbootable. Just the background
and no taskbar. This isn't supposed to happen either, but it does.

 

[Mark Adams]

In philo typed on Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:10:17 -0500:

ROTFL! Ubuntu is only one Linux distro. Have you tried the likes of
Fedora yet? By the way, try Ubuntu Live and convert it with UNetbootin
to boot from a flash drive. Then just boot and don't touch your XP
partition at all. And you have iBand (from US Robotics - free)
installed. Your XP will be toasted and unbootable. Just the background
and no taskbar. This isn't supposed to happen either, but it does.

I don't believe this. Tell me what version of Linnux does this and where to
get it. I'll download it and test it myself. By the way, if you read the
thread you posted, the issue was with fdisk. Anybody use that for XP? I
don't.

 

[Daave]

In Daave typed on Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:36:28 -0400:

I'm also talking about a clean install. See for yourself.

http://en.kioskea.net/forum/affich-29081-how-to-format-linux-and-install-xp

Sorry, Bill, but there was nothing relevant in that thread.

 

[Daave]

I don't believe this. Tell me what version of Linnux does this and
where to get it. I'll download it and test it myself. By the way, if
you read the thread you posted, the issue was with fdisk. Anybody use
that for XP? I don't.

Have a look here, Mark:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...indows-after-installing-fedora-core-3-295701/

I only skimmed it. Although some people were multi-booting, there were a
number who were attempting to perform clean installs, too, booting off
the XP CD. I saw mentions of Fedora Core 3 and 6. The theories had
something to do with overlapping partitions and number of cylinders.

Of course, it could be coincidence (or a red herring) that Linux was
involved and that there was user error or there was problematic
hardware. Or maybe there *is* something to what Bill is saying. The
problem is I'm not sure you'll be able to duplicate this, but if you
try, please let us know what you find out!

 

[BillW50]

In Mark Adams typed on Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:11:01 -0700:

I don't believe this. Tell me what version of Linnux does this and
where to get it. I'll download it and test it myself. By the way, if
you read the thread you posted, the issue was with fdisk. Anybody use
that for XP? I don't.

Test machine:

Asus EeePC 702 8G SSD with 2GB of RAM
Windows XP SP2 (EeePC OEM version)

Ubuntu-eee-8.04.1.iso
unetbootin-windows-299.exe (convert iso to USB flash drive)

That Ubuntu version should boot on any computer. I just tried it on this
Gateway and it booted. I removed the Windows drive though. As I won't
allow on Linux system see any Windows OS after being burned three times
by Ubuntu. I never had a problem with Puppy Linux, but I don't trust any
Linux distros anymore to be honest with you.

 

[Mark Adams]

In Mark Adams typed on Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:11:01 -0700:

Test machine:

Asus EeePC 702 8G SSD with 2GB of RAM
Windows XP SP2 (EeePC OEM version)

Ubuntu-eee-8.04.1.iso
unetbootin-windows-299.exe (convert iso to USB flash drive)

Are these boot disk applications, or can they be installed and run from the
hard drive? I have run Knoppix disks on several Windows machines and have
never had trouble with Knoppix screwing up the Windows install. I also have
never heard of a Windows install CD NOT being able delete and recreate the
partitions for a clean install. My Home Upgrade and MCE disks as well as
pirated versions of XP Pro and 64 bit (for testing purposes only disks
have never failed to partition and format the drive. Unless the hard drive
had issues. If I can get to it this week to test, I'll post back. Don't hold
your breath.

 

[BillW50]

In philo typed on Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:52:03 -0500:

Yes

as I mentioned 1000 times

I am an experimenter and have fooled dozens of Linux distributions
over the past eight years.

The only time I've seen any bootable cd balk, and that's Windows or
Linux... it was always due to defective hardware of some type

I have seen Ubuntu Live screw up a working Windows XP install. It boots
to the desktop, minus the Taskbar and a window pops up saying Windows
Installer and that is all. Sits there for days doing nothing. Can popup
the Task Manager and kill it with CTRL-ALT-DEL.

I didn't want to believe Ubuntu Live even touched the Windows disk. So I
restored XP and I repeated it two more times. And it toasted the Windows
system each time. What does Ubuntu Live do? Use the XP drive for
temporary storage or what?

P.S. No problems with this hardware. Plus I got spares too.

 

[BillW50]

In Mark Adams typed on Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:57:02 -0700:

Are these boot disk applications, or can they be installed and run
from the hard drive? I have run Knoppix disks on several Windows
machines and have never had trouble with Knoppix screwing up the
Windows install. I also have never heard of a Windows install CD NOT
being able delete and recreate the partitions for a clean install. My
Home Upgrade and MCE disks as well as pirated versions of XP Pro and
64 bit (for testing purposes only disks have never failed to
partition and format the drive. Unless the hard drive had issues. If
I can get to it this week to test, I'll post back. Don't hold your
breath.

Don't forget to install iBand from US Robotics (free) and running on the
Taskbar. And once Ubuntu screws up your XP system, you can temporary get
XP bootable again by renaming iband.dll to something else and it will
boot normally again. But don't trust this XP anymore. As it will be
flaky from this point on. Restore it to an earlier backup.

Yes unetbootin-windows-299.exe, runs under Windows from a hard drive. It
takes a Linux iso and formats and copies the iso to a flash drive
(instead of using CDs). I use a 1GB flash drive. I am not sure how large
or small the flash drive needs to be. Whatever size the iso is for the
smallest up to 4GB for the largest would be my guess.

I can do some more testing here if you would like. Like seeing if this
happens from a burned CD as well. Although I am not really fond of
allowing Linux to screw up working versions of Windows XP. <sigh>

 

[Daave]

In Mark Adams typed on Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:57:02 -0700:

Don't forget to install iBand from US Robotics (free) and running on
the Taskbar. And once Ubuntu screws up your XP system, you can
temporary get XP bootable again by renaming iband.dll to something
else and it will boot normally again. But don't trust this XP
anymore. As it will be flaky from this point on. Restore it to an
earlier backup.
Yes unetbootin-windows-299.exe, runs under Windows from a hard drive.
It takes a Linux iso and formats and copies the iso to a flash drive
(instead of using CDs). I use a 1GB flash drive. I am not sure how
large or small the flash drive needs to be. Whatever size the iso is
for the smallest up to 4GB for the largest would be my guess.

I can do some more testing here if you would like. Like seeing if this
happens from a burned CD as well. Although I am not really fond of
allowing Linux to screw up working versions of Windows XP. <sigh>

That is why regular imaging or cloning is a must for whenever people
test. All "screwups" can get reversed.

 

[BillW50]

In philo typed on Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:18:20 -0500:

I see you gave up on that and have

now changed the subject


put it to rest dude

LOL

No you give it up dude! Linux *CAN* prevent Windows from installing!
Linux *CAN* screw up a working Windows install. No changing of the
subject necessary dude! lol