Registry Cleaners

[Alias]

You're **not** getting the point are you!!?? Registry 'cleaners' under no
circumstance should be used!!!!!!!!

Your opinion. You haven't used System Suite. Ergo, you can't have an opinion
of any validity regarding the program. My friend has literally used it on
hundreds of computers using anything from Win 98 to XP Pro and 100% of the
time, it caused no adverse affect and fixed the registry. I use it on my
three computers with no adverse affects. How many computers have you used it
on that screwed up the computer? Zero?

Alias

 

[kurttrail]

You're **not** getting the point are you!!?? Registry 'cleaners'
under no circumstance should be used!!!!!!!!

While I'm of the opinion that Registry cleaners are of very little help,
if any, and tend to cause problems, that is just my opinion.

"Registry 'cleaners' under no circumstance should be used!!!!!!!!"

Is rather unrealistic. Most unistallers do some registry cleanup, as do
all good Anti-Spyware tools.


My point? It is that you are getting too emotional, and way overstating
your case, to a point where your OPINION is of little or no value.

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[R. McCarty]

Just because the individual hasn't detected or experienced any
negative impact doesn't mean the potential doesn't exist for it
to happen.
No two systems have identical hardware/software setups on
them.You can't (or should not) make "Global" statements about
effectiveness. If it works for you and you like it that's good. The
issue at hand is that as a "G E N E R A L" rule Registry cleaners
are potentially dangerous. The resistance you're meeting here is
not to convince you not to use SS 5 or whatever. It's to keep a
poster from using it without knowing the consequences.
Too many technical people who post here have 1st-hand
experience with "Dead Machines" because of Registry Cleaners.
It's more of the "Do No Harm" rule of offering PC advice.

 

[Will Denny]

Your opinion. You haven't used System Suite. Ergo, you can't have an
opinion of any validity regarding the program. My friend has literally
used it on hundreds of computers using anything from Win 98 to XP Pro and
100% of the time, it caused no adverse affect and fixed the registry. I
use it on my three computers with no adverse affects. How many computers
have you used it on that screwed up the computer? Zero?

Alias

I don't use Registry 'cleaners'. They are not needed - WAKE UP!!!!

 

[Alias]

Just because the individual hasn't detected or experienced any
negative impact doesn't mean the potential doesn't exist for it
to happen.

That's why SS 5 makes a back up of what it removes ... although I have never
had to use it.

No two systems have identical hardware/software setups on
them.You can't (or should not) make "Global" statements about
effectiveness. If it works for you and you like it that's good. The
issue at hand is that as a "G E N E R A L" rule Registry cleaners
are potentially dangerous. The resistance you're meeting here is
not to convince you not to use SS 5 or whatever. It's to keep a
poster from using it without knowing the consequences.
Too many technical people who post here have 1st-hand
experience with "Dead Machines" because of Registry Cleaners.
It's more of the "Do No Harm" rule of offering PC advice.

He has done it on hundreds of machines since the mid nineties. Not one
problem. Not one "dead machine".

Alias

 

[Alias]

I don't use Registry 'cleaners'. They are not needed - WAKE UP!!!!

Horsepucky.

Alias

 

[kurttrail]

Just because the individual hasn't detected or experienced any
negative impact doesn't mean the potential doesn't exist for it
to happen.
No two systems have identical hardware/software setups on
them.You can't (or should not) make "Global" statements about
effectiveness. If it works for you and you like it that's good. The
issue at hand is that as a "G E N E R A L" rule Registry cleaners
are potentially dangerous. The resistance you're meeting here is
not to convince you not to use SS 5 or whatever. It's to keep a
poster from using it without knowing the consequences.
Too many technical people who post here have 1st-hand
experience with "Dead Machines" because of Registry Cleaners.
It's more of the "Do No Harm" rule of offering PC advice.

I agree, and have said much of that regarding Registry cleaners myself.
Will has gone off the deep end and isn't talking about generalities, but
is giving a "Global" statement, and getting overly emotional about it
too.

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[kurttrail]

That's why SS 5 makes a back up of what it removes ... although I
have never had to use it.


He has done it on hundreds of machines since the mid nineties. Not one
problem. Not one "dead machine".

But to what benefit?

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[kurttrail]

I don't use Registry 'cleaners'. They are not needed - WAKE UP!!!!

Chill!

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[Alias]

But to what benefit?

Example: I removed a scanner and a printer from my daughter's computer. It
then had problems booting up and would hang at the Win XP splash screen
forever. We did a registry fix and found a bunch of crosslinked references
to the scanner and the printer. Removed them. The system works wonderfully
now. Granted, regedit could have done the same thing but there would have
been a lot more entries to look over. SS picks out the ones that need
fixing, making the job easier.

That said, I do NOT recommend SS 5.0's AllInOne or it's defrag or diskchk. I
do like the fact that once you've bought it, you have a lifetime of
TrendMicro's AV updates and I like Power Desk's ability to write zeros on
files. The clean up is far superior to XP's resident clean up.

Oh, and you can install it on more than one machine! No activation!

Heh.

Alias

 

[Will Denny]

Example: I removed a scanner and a printer from my daughter's computer. It
then had problems booting up and would hang at the Win XP splash screen
forever. We did a registry fix and found a bunch of crosslinked references
to the scanner and the printer. Removed them. The system works wonderfully
now. Granted, regedit could have done the same thing but there would have
been a lot more entries to look over. SS picks out the ones that need
fixing, making the job easier.

That said, I do NOT recommend SS 5.0's AllInOne or it's defrag or diskchk.
I do like the fact that once you've bought it, you have a lifetime of
TrendMicro's AV updates and I like Power Desk's ability to write zeros on
files. The clean up is far superior to XP's resident clean up.

Oh, and you can install it on more than one machine! No activation!

Heh.

Alias

Hi

"crosslinked references" will be found by chkdsk if needed - no need to
employ a Registry 'cleaner'. What was the "registry fix"?

 

[Alias]

Hi

"crosslinked references" will be found by chkdsk if needed - no need to
employ a Registry 'cleaner'. What was the "registry fix"?

Not sure I used the right term but the computer works fine now. It didn't
using Chkdsk.

Alias

 

[Don Burnette]

"> Have you tried SS 5.0? If not, SFU. It's a great program and not
one

NO Registry 'cleaner' is a great/good/efficient/even slightly good
program. I won't allow them near any of my machines. If I think
there is some dross that needs deleting I'll manually edit the
Registry, not leave up to some program that **it** decides on which
entries should be deleted. I wish you would stop recommending
Registry 'cleaners' - they are **not** worth the bother!!

I'll add my 2 cents worth..

I have been using a registry cleaner , the one that come with System
Mechanic, for at least 2 years now.
I do know my way around a computer, but do not really know my way around the
registry, so I would be uncomfortable at this stage in going in and manually
deleting entries. I hope to have the time to dig in and learn sometime in
the near future.
I have a weekly maintenance routine, that includes disk cleanup, defrag,
adware removal, registry cleaner, obsolete file remover, and I image my
system to an external usb 2.0 hard drive.

While I realize there is always a potential risk in using a program such as
a registry cleaner, I accept that risk because I know I take the necessary
precautions to restore my system to a good working order if need be, and I
am comfortable with that.
Having said that, I can say I have not had one problem to date using the
registry cleaner in System Mechanic. I can also say, my XP Pro system, is in
top notch shape, and has always run as good as the day I installed it. I
have done upgrades such as replacing motherboards, and even then, only done
a repair install, rather than a clean install, so this XP Pro installation
has been running for some time.

Now, would it be the same if I had never used a registry cleaner? May be, I
honestly cannot say. Usually , when I run it on a weekly basis, it finds and
I delete anwhere from 10-12 registry entries. This has just become habit for
me, and a part of my weekly routine. And based on my system's performance,
all of these combined seem to work for me.

I think, as with a lot of programs, using a registry cleaner, your mileage
may vary. I know there is a risk, I accept that risk, and I do my best to
take the precautions needed to restore my system should something go wrong.
I won't sit here and recommend using it, nor will I recommend never using
it.
I would only say, for anyone willing to take the risk, go for it, but
understand any program that deletes files such as in the registry, does have
the ability to cause problems, and hopefully you will have what you need to
restore if need be... the user will have to make the decision, as to
whether it benefits them in any way.

 

[Will Denny]

I'll add my 2 cents worth..

I have been using a registry cleaner , the one that come with System
Mechanic, for at least 2 years now.
I do know my way around a computer, but do not really know my way around
the registry, so I would be uncomfortable at this stage in going in and
manually deleting entries. I hope to have the time to dig in and learn
sometime in the near future.
I have a weekly maintenance routine, that includes disk cleanup, defrag,
adware removal, registry cleaner, obsolete file remover, and I image my
system to an external usb 2.0 hard drive.

While I realize there is always a potential risk in using a program such
as a registry cleaner, I accept that risk because I know I take the
necessary precautions to restore my system to a good working order if need
be, and I am comfortable with that.
Having said that, I can say I have not had one problem to date using the
registry cleaner in System Mechanic. I can also say, my XP Pro system, is
in top notch shape, and has always run as good as the day I installed it.
I have done upgrades such as replacing motherboards, and even then, only
done a repair install, rather than a clean install, so this XP Pro
installation has been running for some time.

Now, would it be the same if I had never used a registry cleaner? May be,
I honestly cannot say. Usually , when I run it on a weekly basis, it finds
and I delete anwhere from 10-12 registry entries. This has just become
habit for me, and a part of my weekly routine. And based on my system's
performance, all of these combined seem to work for me.

I think, as with a lot of programs, using a registry cleaner, your mileage
may vary. I know there is a risk, I accept that risk, and I do my best to
take the precautions needed to restore my system should something go
wrong. I won't sit here and recommend using it, nor will I recommend never
using it.
I would only say, for anyone willing to take the risk, go for it, but
understand any program that deletes files such as in the registry, does
have the ability to cause problems, and hopefully you will have what you
need to restore if need be... the user will have to make the decision, as
to whether it benefits them in any way.

Don Burnette

"When you decide something is impossible to do, try to stay out of the
way of the man that's doing it."

Try here:

http://www.winguides.com/article.php?id=1&guide=registry

 

[Don Burnette]

Will Denny wrote:

Try here:

http://www.winguides.com/article.php?id=1&guide=registry

I will, thanks for the link Will.