Read if you have Wga problems with legal Preinstalled system.

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Greg Ro

Read if you have Wga problems with legal Preinstalled system.

Sorry for the multiple post.

Don’t not do this in safe mode!
Make sure you do this from an administrator account

Connect to the internet
Click Start, and then click Run.
In the Open box, type regedit, and then click OK.

In the left pane, locate and then click the following registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\WindowsNT\Current
Version\WPAEvents
In the right pane, right-click OOBETimer, and then click Modify.
Change at least one digit of this value to deactivate Windows.
Click Start, and then click Run.
In the run box, type the following command, and then click OK.

%systemroot%\system32\oobe\msoobe.exe /a

Click Yes, I want to telephone a customer service representative to
activate Windows, and then click Next.

Click Change Product key to key on your machine.

Type the new product key in the New key boxes, and then click Update.

If you are returned to the previous window, click Remind me later
DON’T reboot.

In the run box, type the following command, and then click OK.

%systemroot%\system32\oobe\msoobe.exe /a

Chose internet than activate. You will need to allow connection from
your firewall.

In the run box, type the following command

%systemroot%\system32\oobe\msoobe.exe /a

And you will see this message.

Windows is already activated. Click OK to exit.

reboot


You should then be able to validate windows. I tested this on w2040
emachine and it worked.

Greg R
 
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Read if you have Wga problems with legal Preinstalled system.


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Greg Ro

**/How to change the Volume Licensing product key on a Windows XP
SP1-based computer
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=328874#3

That what I based it on. However, if you reboot according to those
instructions, you won't be able to activate it.

My instruction show changing a legal volume license key to a legal oem
key.

Another note, keys do get messed up during install. So, if you have
a problem with wga and you legally installed windows and it was
activated. Then follow my key instructions except use the key you
installed xp with or the key that was provide by microsoft if you had
to call in to activate due to hardware changes.

Greg Ro
 
K

kurttrail

Greg said:
Read if you have Wga problems with legal Preinstalled system.

Sorry for the multiple post.

Don't not do this in safe mode!
Make sure you do this from an administrator account

Connect to the internet
Click Start, and then click Run.
In the Open box, type regedit, and then click OK.

In the left pane, locate and then click the following registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\WindowsNT\Current
Version\WPAEvents
In the right pane, right-click OOBETimer, and then click Modify.
Change at least one digit of this value to deactivate Windows.
Click Start, and then click Run.
In the run box, type the following command, and then click OK.

%systemroot%\system32\oobe\msoobe.exe /a

Click Yes, I want to telephone a customer service representative to
activate Windows, and then click Next.

Click Change Product key to key on your machine.

Type the new product key in the New key boxes, and then click Update.

If you are returned to the previous window, click Remind me later
DON'T reboot.

In the run box, type the following command, and then click OK.

%systemroot%\system32\oobe\msoobe.exe /a

Chose internet than activate. You will need to allow connection from
your firewall.

In the run box, type the following command

%systemroot%\system32\oobe\msoobe.exe /a

And you will see this message.

Windows is already activated. Click OK to exit.

reboot


You should then be able to validate windows. I tested this on w2040
emachine and it worked.

Greg R

Hmm. I seem to remeber that MS disabled Major OEM Product Keys from
being activated of the internet!

http://www.betanews.com/article/Microsoft_Closes_Activation_Loophole/1109293194

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Greg Ro

Hmm. I seem to remeber that MS disabled Major OEM Product Keys from
being activated of the internet!


Yes Kurt you are correct in part.
I think that only with windows xp first release. You can still call in
and get a new key after some hassle with Microsoft.

The preinstall system use a hidden key given to them by Microsoft.
That key won't activate becuase it a volume license key. No need for
activation. However, wga is causing some problem with this as I have
read in newsgroups. The key on your machine should work and should
be able to be activated except maybe for the first release of Windows
xp.

I have also read. People are having problems now with wga for legally
installed products. So the key fix should work for them as well.
But either use the key you installed xp with or the key microsoft
gave you for any hardware changes you might have done.

If you got the key from Microsoft use that key.

Greg Ro
 
K

kurttrail

Greg said:
Yes Kurt you are correct in part.
I think that only with windows xp first release. You can still call in
and get a new key after some hassle with Microsoft.

The preinstall system use a hidden key given to them by Microsoft.
That key won't activate becuase it a volume license key. No need for
activation. However, wga is causing some problem with this as I have
read in newsgroups. The key on your machine should work and should
be able to be activated except maybe for the first release of Windows
xp.

I have also read. People are having problems now with wga for legally
installed products. So the key fix should work for them as well.
But either use the key you installed xp with or the key microsoft
gave you for any hardware changes you might have done.

If you got the key from Microsoft use that key.

Greg Ro

You shouldn't go messing around changing keys, especially if you have XP
pre-installed by a major OEM, without finding out what they think about
it.

The hassle, the likelihood of having problems, and the risk involved in
not getting phone activated by MS is not to be taken lightly.

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Greg Ro

You shouldn't go messing around changing keys, especially if you have XP
pre-installed by a major OEM, without finding out what they think about
it.

The hassle, the likelihood of having problems, and the risk involved in
not getting phone activated by MS is not to be taken lightly.

Kurt what the difference in using the key on the back of your machine
for reinstalling the operating system than using it for changing the
key? I see no difference. Except you have to activate it immediately
because it becomes on oem installation for those computers that have
been preinstalled.

They key on the machine is allowed to be used by me unless I sell the
computer.

Who cares what the oem company thinks especially if it is out of
warranty. It is my machine not emachine, not microsoft.

Do you have a better idea for people have that have problem getting
wga validation that have legal installed operating system--So, they
can still use windows update?



Greg Ro
 
K

kurttrail

Greg said:
Kurt what the difference in using the key on the back of your machine
for reinstalling the operating system than using it for changing the
key? I see no difference. Except you have to activate it immediately
because it becomes on oem installation for those computers that have
been preinstalled.

Well with major OEM installs, you not suppose to have to activate.
F*#king around with changing PK's is just asking for worse problems than
WGA.
They key on the machine is allowed to be used by me unless I sell the
computer.

Who cares what the oem company thinks especially if it is out of
warranty. It is my machine not emachine, not microsoft.

Well, if you own a emachine that says alot.
Do you have a better idea for people have that have problem getting
wga validation that have legal installed operating system--So, they
can still use windows update?

Yeah, don't use it. Without WGA, Windows Update added an extra layer of
code that could go wrong with the patching process. With WGA, it added
yet another layer of BS on top of that!

People need to learn to cut up that BS code between them and installing
security updates.

http://microscum.com/comsense

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Greg Ro

(No need to keep multi-posting)

I do agree the wga is becoming a major pain as there is a lot of
problems reported.

I never said emachine was a problem. I just tested it on an emachine
and it worked. I have a ghost image backup. I usually always test
stuff out before giving advice if applicable. I think this sound
advice. Microsoft may even give the same advice I am giving.
Business that do not have volume or corporate license have already
reported trouble getting update because wga didn't Validate, Some
with volume licenses are having trouble and the javascript bypass code
no longer works.

Greg Ro
 
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kurttrail

Greg said:
(No need to keep multi-posting)

I do agree the wga is becoming a major pain as there is a lot of
problems reported.

I never said emachine was a problem. I just tested it on an emachine
and it worked. I have a ghost image backup. I usually always test
stuff out before giving advice if applicable. I think this sound
advice. Microsoft may even give the same advice I am giving.
Business that do not have volume or corporate license have already
reported trouble getting update because wga didn't Validate, Some
with volume licenses are having trouble and the javascript bypass code
no longer works.

And MS needs to get their validation crap fixed, or better yet, dump it.
It shouldn't be up to computer owners to muck around with work-arounds
fixing what ain't broke, and their OS, and the way it was installed
ain't what is broke. MS's validation crap is what needs to be made
reliable, or if it can't be, then it needs to have a quick painful
death!

Until MS fixes or dumps validation, there are much less risky ways to
stay patched.

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Steve P

You should then be able to validate windows. I tested this on w2040
emachine and it worked.

Greg R

I do have WGA problems with a legal preinstalled system, but am leery of
trying undocumented advice. Is this a MS recommended fix?
 
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Greg Ro

I do have WGA problems with a legal preinstalled system, but am leery of
trying undocumented advice. Is this a MS recommended fix?
They have not came out without any official statements. I don't know
if Microsoft is aware of the wga problems. They may be working on a
fix. If nothing happens after a week. Then I would write or call
Microsoft local office and ask them when are they going to fix wga
problem? These are just temporary workaround I mentioned that may
or may not work. In the meantime you could also use
http://help.bixfix.com until Microsoft fixes the problem. They
provide them with direct links to updates. Should get most updates.
I bet bigfix will eventually require wga for windows xp unless
Microsoft scraps the wga idea.

Greg R
 
K

kurttrail

Greg said:
They have not came out without any official statements. I don't know
if Microsoft is aware of the wga problems. They may be working on a
fix. If nothing happens after a week. Then I would write or call
Microsoft local office and ask them when are they going to fix wga
problem? These are just temporary workaround I mentioned that may
or may not work. In the meantime you could also use
http://help.bixfix.com until Microsoft fixes the problem. They
provide them with direct links to updates. Should get most updates.
I bet bigfix will eventually require wga for windows xp unless
Microsoft scraps the wga idea.

MS knows about the problems and they don't give a rat's ass about them.

I'd be willing to bet that they are harder at work closing all the
loopholes in WGA, than fixing the different reasons that people are
wrongly denied validation.

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Greg Ro

MS knows about the problems and they don't give a rat's BEEP about them.

I'd be willing to bet that they are harder at work closing all the
loopholes in WGA, than fixing the different reasons that people are
wrongly denied validation.

I think Microsoft,bigfix, and oem companies have a contract with each
other to provide direct downloads for bigfix customers. Bigfix has
been preinstalled in lots of computers and has been around for years.
That why I mentioned it.

They better fix the problem if they don't want a class action lawsuit
or several small claim court actions. I am pretty sure Microsoft is
not that dumb to tick off legit paying customer. If they really can't
fix it. I am sure Microsoft will dump it. You do got to get them
time to fix stuff Kurt.

There are other workarounds out there but I can't mention them here.
They would not call it a workaround. Bigfix is different and is
legal.


Greg Ro
 
K

kurttrail

Greg said:
I think Microsoft,bigfix, and oem companies have a contract with each
other to provide direct downloads for bigfix customers. Bigfix has
been preinstalled in lots of computers and has been around for years.
That why I mentioned it.

They better fix the problem if they don't want a class action lawsuit
or several small claim court actions. I am pretty sure Microsoft is
not that dumb to tick off legit paying customer. If they really can't
fix it. I am sure Microsoft will dump it. You do got to get them
time to fix stuff Kurt.

There are other workarounds out there but I can't mention them here.
They would not call it a workaround. Bigfix is different and is
legal.


Greg Ro

Give them time to fix what will never do me any good? Why the F*#K
would I want WGA in the first place working or not?

Since WGA does absolutely NOTHING for me, MS should have made GOD DAMNED
sure that it was working BEFORE it was made mandatory!

Give them time to fix it! ROFL! Wait for Big Brother to fix his
chains!

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Greg Ro

Give them time to fix what will never do me any good? Why the
would I want WGA in the first place working or not?

No one really want WGA if some MVPS
Since WGA does absolutely NOTHING for me, MS should have made
sure that it was working BEFORE it was made mandatory!

They should of done this, however the now they now it need working
Give them time to fix it!

Yes, It takes time to fix problems.

If I read correctly. It going to get worse if the get wga working
correctly. The new Microsoft software and non microsoft software may
make sure you have a wga before installing. I could be wrong. I am
waiting on another reply. It will also require dotnet installation.

Here the thread I'm talking about
http://snipurl.com/gnw5

Greg R
 
K

kurttrail

Greg said:
No one really want WGA if some MVPS

Because it is worthless to the enduser. Why are you being patient about
giving MS time to fix something you won't ever need?

MS is like a baseball owner demanding to renegotiate a contract with a
player that ain't performing well.

Did you agree to WGA when you accepted the XP EULA?

MS is a bunch of double-dealing scumbags!
They should of done this, however the now they now it need working


Yes, It takes time to fix problems.

I was being facetious.

MS KNEW how flawed WGA was, and should never made it mandatory in the
middle of the XP lifecycle.
If I read correctly. It going to get worse if the get wga working
correctly. The new Microsoft software and non microsoft software may
make sure you have a wga before installing. I could be wrong. I am
waiting on another reply. It will also require dotnet installation.

..NET is pretty funny. MS has said that Security Updates won't be
affected by WGA, though on Windows and Microsoft Update it is. MS has
stated that WGA is for addons, but the .NET addon [.NET is certainly NOT
a security update] does not required WGA to download!

MS is so goddamned arbitrary about what it considers an addon!

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Popular.aspx

The downloads at the above link that have the yellow arrow inside of a
blue circle require WGA, those that don't have it, don't require WGA.
Here the thread I'm talking about
http://snipurl.com/gnw5

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