RC2 Keeps Loading Internal Graphics Drivers

[Guest]

Hi all,

I seem to be in an endless loop with RC2 and my internal graphics card.
Unfortunately, my eMachines doesn't have an true "Disable Internal Graphics"
command in the BIOS.

I'm currently using a dedicated graphics card for Vista. However, Vista
keeps finding the internal graphics and keeps loading the drivers which turn
aero off and reverts me to Vista basic (ughh). Rebooting usually resets aero,
but Vista quickly finds and loads the Internal Graphics drivers again. Is
there a command to stop RC2 from scanning for new hardware? Is there a
command to just select rejection of the graphics card? When I go to the
Device Manager, the Internal Graphics doesn't even show up so that I can
disable it!

Please help :'(

 

[Guest]

I am having the same problems. It actually started with RC 1 5600 build. I
hope someone has the answer to this issue.

 

[Dennis Pack]

Mike:
I don't have this problem so I have no way of testing this. After
the onboard internal graphics drivers are installed, go into device manager
and disable the internal graphics, leaving the dedicated graphics enabled.

 

[Guest]

See there lies the problem. the drivers do not show up in the device manager.
I can not even uninstall the driver because it looks like it is installed but
when I try to uninstall it, it will not. Have you got any ideas how to fix
this?

 

[Guest]

Try turning off support for the onboard graphics in the bios of the machine
which should allow you to do something with the graphics card drivers.

 

[Dennis Pack]

Mike:
If Vista is installing drivers for the integrated video there should
be 2 items under display adaptors, one for the integrated adaptor and one
for the add-on video card.

 

[Guest]

I only have my Nvidia card listed in the device manager. And I have already
turned off the on board graphics and I am only supposed to be using the
Nvidia card.

 

[Dennis Pack]

Mike:
I'm out of ideas. The best thing would be to file a bug report.

 

[JW]

If your montor is connectd to the VGA connector on your NVIDIA card and not
to the VGA connector on your MOBO how are you able to able to get it to
display?

 

[Guest]

It's weird but it works! The internal graphics only shows the Intel BIOS
information, but it never shows anything else. However, the nVidia card is
the active card. Just as Mike is having, the internal graphics shows up for a
brief moment then it disappears.

Also, I can easily repeat this process by going to the Hardware Manager and
clicking the "search for new hardware" icon. It repeatedly reloads the Intel
graphics drivers and requests for a reboot afterward. Even if I move quickly
to disable the drivers, the drivers keep coming back!

Isn't there some INF file that I can target or some other setting?

 

[Guest]

Tried that, the internal graphics drivers still keep loading! The main
problem is that the BIOS doesn't seem to truly disable the internal
graphics... Other ideas?

 

[JW]

So if your monitor is connected to the NVIDIA and your display is working
why are you rebooting when it tries to switch to the internal card instead
of just ignoring the alert to reboot?

 

[Guest]

Not rebooting usually results in conflicts. Sometimes Aero is switched off
and the screen goes to Vista Basic (ugghh), other times my screen goes black
and I have to use CTRL-ALT-DELETE to go back to the log in screen. Plus,
having the repeated drivers coming up is just a pain in the butt!

 

[JW]

This situation is very strange answers to the following questions may help
to solve it.
1. What make/model is the MOBO onboard graphics chip and how much memory
does it have?
2. What make/model is the add on graphics card, how much memory and what
driver release are you using for it?
3. Do you also have a TV tuner/Video capture card installed? if yes is at
the same IRQ as the add on graphics card? What driver release are you using
for this card 96.33 or the one that came with RC2?
4. Why did you need to add a separate graphics card?
5. Have you checked to see if you are running the latest BIOS for your MOBO?
6. What interface are you using for your monitor and at what resolution?

 

[Guest]

I am having all the eact same problems as cmmcarthy is having and it is very
annoying. I did not have these problems until RC1 5600 came out and above.
Beta 2 was fine. I had to up grade my graphics to able to run Vista. My on
board is only 64mb, I have a old computer. I upgraded to nvidia GE Force 5200
PCI slot card. All my other information I could not tell you what that is as
I have not looke for it. I no TV tuner and I am using 96.33 driver and not
the one that came Vista, as it doesn't matter it still tries to install that
Intell Chipset driver.

 

[JW]

What is wrong with it installing the Chipset driver since your display is
not connected to it and you are not using it?
Did you check for an updated MOBO BIOS as I asked above, Several MOBO
vendors had to update their BIOS for them to properly support graphics in
RC1 and later?

 

[Guest]

it's not loading the graphics driver, it's loading the chipset driver. The
chipset driver just tells your os what is on the board. If is doesn't show
up in display driver, it's not loading the onboard graphics driver. I think
you need to reload the graphic card. Sounds like you're doing something
wrong. Have you looked for it in the update driver in device manager?
Device Manager>Display adapter>properties>driver>update driver>Browse>Let me
pick>(deselect "show compatible>Look for your graphics card and let Vista try
to load it or point it to the cd you have.

 

[Guest]

Tried that and it didn't work. As far as I'm seeing, RC2 is trying to load
the on-board graphics. My guess is that like XP, there needs to be a way to
tell RC2 that I want to "forever" block loading a driver. It keeps dropping
the blocked status from the driver and reloads it as if it found a new piece
of hardware. Either that, or I will need to find the INF / PNF file that
loads this driver and change it so that it never can load.

 

[Guest]

1. eMachines W2646 computer with a Trigem Imperial-GV mobo (intel 82845GV)
2. nVidia FX5200 128 MB PCI (not PCI-x)
3. No add-on TV tuner card. nVidia does have an S-video ouput though (not
being used). Tried MS native drivers, currently using nVidia's beta drivers
96.33 for Vista x86
4. Onboard graphics didn't have enough "specs" for any kindof gaming. Wanted
a dedicated card for gaming and better performance in Windows. (Yes, PCI
isn't a graphics port)
5. Lastest BIOS since 2003. No updates available.
6. Using dual monitors DVI and VGA, both at 1280 x 1024

 

[JW]

There is nothing wrong with loading the driver if you are not using it, What
problem does it cause if you let it load.
I suggest that you try connecting your VGA display to the MOBO connection
and just your DVI connection on the 5200 card and then set the 5200 card
display as primarly and the MOBO connected display as secondary.
Then shutdown and reboot with both displays connected to the 5200.
Also I am not sure a 5200 card has the horsepower to drive two displays at
1280x1024.
Unless you need to have both displays involved when gaming you might be best
off to connect the display you want to use for gaming to the 5200 and the
other display to the onboard connection. This will free up horsepower on
the the 5200 for gaming since it will only have to drive a single display.