Quirk after SP3 installation

[Josh Beavers]

I just installed SP3 for XP this morning. After installing the SP I have
been trying all day to get OE to stop with the pop-up messages. I had read a
post from someone else that mentioned to reset the Compact Check Count if
your system crashed during compaction. Oddly enough this silenced the issue
for about 10 to 20 minutes, but as you stated something is opening OE.

I haven't used OE in over a year so it is definitely annoying to have this
continue.

I do not have Windows Desktop Search or Google Desktop search installed so I
am confused as to what item is trying to continually open OE. I was watching
process monitor and could not find anything other than an extra svchost after
the service pack. This is becoming a real nuisance though.

Unfortunately you can't uninstall OE

Any help would be appreciated..

 

[3c273]

Unfortunately you can't uninstall OE

Any help would be appreciated..

Add/Remove Programs>Add/Remove Windows Components>Uncheck the box labeled
Outlook Express
Louis

 

[3c273]

Unfortunately you can't uninstall OE

Any help would be appreciated..

PS: Not sure if that actually removes Outlook Express or just the icons for
it. You could try some tricks with system file protection to rename
msimn.exe and see which program complains that the file can not be found.
Louis

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

[X-post to OE General, OE6, & Windows Update newsgroups for maximum
exposure]

Josh, you're not doing yourself or those who are already attempting to
assist you any favors by beginning a new thread in this newsgroup.

Please post any/all follow-up in your original thread in OE General
newsgroup:
http://groups.google.com/group/micr...ss.general/browse_frm/thread/21bed57c0612153f

This behavior is affecting a very, very small minority of users [1] and
we're doing our very best to discover why and how to fix it. Again, please
stick with you original thread.
===============================================

[1]
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_...008&as_maxd=1&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2008&safe=off

http://groups.google.com/group/micr...lookexpress/browse_frm/thread/ac059608c2a8bcc

http://groups.google.com/group/micr...s.general/browse_frm/thread/21bed57c0612153f/

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/browse_frm/thread/a306ea7a480bcebe

 

[Josh Beavers]

PA Bear I am really confused by your intentions. I was sticking with the
Outlook Express forum and you instructed me to post my question into the
WinXP general discussion which I did as requested.

All information that is pertinent has been posted in the General XP
discussion. The Outlook Express compact the free disk space message keeps
popping-up on its own even though I do not open or use Outlook Express
anymore. The following reg key is updated every 2 minutes automatically and I
am not sure what is trying to access the Outlook Express data files. Even if
I delete the data files out of my Application data they are recreated by some
process.

I do not have Windows Desktop Search and am unaware of any behind the scenes
indexing causing Outlook Express to regenerate this profile every 2 minutes.
The only solution at this time is to delete the current users
identity\software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0\Compact Check Count string
value and by myself roughly 20 to 40 minutes.

I will continue to maintain both discussions in hopes of a resolution, but
in the future it would be helpful if you did not suggest posting a message in
a forum you do not wish me to post in.

Thanks,
Josh

[X-post to OE General, OE6, & Windows Update newsgroups for maximum
exposure]

Josh, you're not doing yourself or those who are already attempting to
assist you any favors by beginning a new thread in this newsgroup.

Please post any/all follow-up in your original thread in OE General
newsgroup:
http://groups.google.com/group/micr...ss.general/browse_frm/thread/21bed57c0612153f

This behavior is affecting a very, very small minority of users [1] and
we're doing our very best to discover why and how to fix it. Again, please
stick with you original thread.
===============================================

[1]
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_...008&as_maxd=1&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2008&safe=off

http://groups.google.com/group/micr...lookexpress/browse_frm/thread/ac059608c2a8bcc

http://groups.google.com/group/micr...s.general/browse_frm/thread/21bed57c0612153f/

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/browse_frm/thread/a306ea7a480bcebe
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

I just installed SP3 for XP this morning. After installing the SP I have
been trying all day to get OE to stop with the pop-up messages. I had read
a
post from someone else that mentioned to reset the Compact Check Count if
your system crashed during compaction. Oddly enough this silenced the
issue
for about 10 to 20 minutes, but as you stated something is opening OE.

I haven't used OE in over a year so it is definitely annoying to have this
continue.

I do not have Windows Desktop Search or Google Desktop search installed so
I
am confused as to what item is trying to continually open OE. I was
watching
process monitor and could not find anything other than an extra svchost
after the service pack. This is becoming a real nuisance though.

Unfortunately you can't uninstall OE

Any help would be appreciated..

 

[TaurArian]

I had some annoying quirks after SP3 and I fixed the same by removing SP3,
making sure that the drive was clear of rubbish etc, some hard disk
maintenance etc and then reinstalled SP3 without unnecessary applications
running like anti virus etc (I installed it from the full file rather than
using WU). No quirks left.

Just a thought.
--

--------------------------------
TaurArian [MVP] 2005-2008
Update Services
http://taurarian.mvps.org

PA Bear I am really confused by your intentions. I was sticking with the
Outlook Express forum and you instructed me to post my question into the
WinXP general discussion which I did as requested.

All information that is pertinent has been posted in the General XP
discussion. The Outlook Express compact the free disk space message keeps
popping-up on its own even though I do not open or use Outlook Express
anymore. The following reg key is updated every 2 minutes automatically and I
am not sure what is trying to access the Outlook Express data files. Even if
I delete the data files out of my Application data they are recreated by some
process.

I do not have Windows Desktop Search and am unaware of any behind the scenes
indexing causing Outlook Express to regenerate this profile every 2 minutes.
The only solution at this time is to delete the current users
identity\software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0\Compact Check Count string
value and by myself roughly 20 to 40 minutes.

I will continue to maintain both discussions in hopes of a resolution, but
in the future it would be helpful if you did not suggest posting a message in
a forum you do not wish me to post in.

Thanks,
Josh

[X-post to OE General, OE6, & Windows Update newsgroups for maximum
exposure]

Josh, you're not doing yourself or those who are already attempting to
assist you any favors by beginning a new thread in this newsgroup.

Please post any/all follow-up in your original thread in OE General
newsgroup:
http://groups.google.com/group/micr...ss.general/browse_frm/thread/21bed57c0612153f

This behavior is affecting a very, very small minority of users [1] and
we're doing our very best to discover why and how to fix it. Again, please
stick with you original thread.
===============================================

[1]
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_...008&as_maxd=1&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2008&safe=off

http://groups.google.com/group/micr...lookexpress/browse_frm/thread/ac059608c2a8bcc

http://groups.google.com/group/micr...s.general/browse_frm/thread/21bed57c0612153f/

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/browse_frm/thread/a306ea7a480bcebe
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

I just installed SP3 for XP this morning. After installing the SP I have
been trying all day to get OE to stop with the pop-up messages. I had read
a
post from someone else that mentioned to reset the Compact Check Count if
your system crashed during compaction. Oddly enough this silenced the
issue
for about 10 to 20 minutes, but as you stated something is opening OE.

I haven't used OE in over a year so it is definitely annoying to have this
continue.

I do not have Windows Desktop Search or Google Desktop search installed so
I
am confused as to what item is trying to continually open OE. I was
watching
process monitor and could not find anything other than an extra svchost
after the service pack. This is becoming a real nuisance though.

Unfortunately you can't uninstall OE

Any help would be appreciated..

 

[thecreator]

Hi Josh,

I have Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 3 and I also use Outlook
Express 6 all the time. I haven't had the problem you are mentioning, but
you stated that you don't use Outlook Express any longer.

If this is the case, I would go to C:\Documents and Settings\Josh
Beavers\Local Settings\Application Data\Identities and delete all the
Identities stored there. Outlook Express stores its Store Folders there.

current users
identity\software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0\Compact Check Count

There should not be a Compact Check Count Reg Key stored there. You may
have a Virus or Spyware installed on your system. Download and install
SpyBot Search and Destroy and see what it saids. Latest is 1.52.

http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html


--
thecreator

PA Bear I am really confused by your intentions. I was sticking with the
Outlook Express forum and you instructed me to post my question into the
WinXP general discussion which I did as requested.

All information that is pertinent has been posted in the General XP
discussion. The Outlook Express compact the free disk space message keeps
popping-up on its own even though I do not open or use Outlook Express
anymore. The following reg key is updated every 2 minutes automatically
and I
am not sure what is trying to access the Outlook Express data files. Even
if
I delete the data files out of my Application data they are recreated by
some
process.

I do not have Windows Desktop Search and am unaware of any behind the
scenes
indexing causing Outlook Express to regenerate this profile every 2
minutes.
The only solution at this time is to delete the current users
identity\software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0\Compact Check Count string
value and by myself roughly 20 to 40 minutes.

I will continue to maintain both discussions in hopes of a resolution, but
in the future it would be helpful if you did not suggest posting a message
in
a forum you do not wish me to post in.

Thanks,
Josh

[X-post to OE General, OE6, & Windows Update newsgroups for maximum
exposure]

Josh, you're not doing yourself or those who are already attempting to
assist you any favors by beginning a new thread in this newsgroup.

Please post any/all follow-up in your original thread in OE General
newsgroup:
http://groups.google.com/group/micr...ss.general/browse_frm/thread/21bed57c0612153f

This behavior is affecting a very, very small minority of users [1] and
we're doing our very best to discover why and how to fix it. Again,
please
stick with you original thread.
===============================================

[1]
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_...008&as_maxd=1&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2008&safe=off

http://groups.google.com/group/micr...lookexpress/browse_frm/thread/ac059608c2a8bcc

http://groups.google.com/group/micr...s.general/browse_frm/thread/21bed57c0612153f/

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/browse_frm/thread/a306ea7a480bcebe
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

I just installed SP3 for XP this morning. After installing the SP I
have
been trying all day to get OE to stop with the pop-up messages. I had
read
a
post from someone else that mentioned to reset the Compact Check Count
if
your system crashed during compaction. Oddly enough this silenced the
issue
for about 10 to 20 minutes, but as you stated something is opening OE.

I haven't used OE in over a year so it is definitely annoying to have
this
continue.

I do not have Windows Desktop Search or Google Desktop search installed
so
I
am confused as to what item is trying to continually open OE. I was
watching
process monitor and could not find anything other than an extra svchost
after the service pack. This is becoming a real nuisance though.

Unfortunately you can't uninstall OE

Any help would be appreciated..

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

You went off-topic in your second post in a thread (that someone else
started) in OE Genereal newsgroup entitled "OE 6.0 compacting message"...

QUOTE:

Josh Beavers wrote:
Actually now that I started thinking about it. If you are not using the
classic logon, how do you configure if Windows checks to update your email
inbox next to your login name. Obviously if I lock the screen or wanted to
switch user that item under the login does get updated stating how many
unread messages I have in an inbox.

I just never really cared to know how it got updated, but that built in
process is probably my suspicion at this point and perhaps the service
pack jumbled that code up.

Any thoughts??

I asked you to begin a new thread about THAT in WinXP General.
--
~PA Bear

PA Bear I am really confused by your intentions. I was sticking with the
Outlook Express forum and you instructed me to post my question into the
WinXP general discussion which I did as requested.

All information that is pertinent has been posted in the General XP
discussion. The Outlook Express compact the free disk space message keeps
popping-up on its own even though I do not open or use Outlook Express
anymore. The following reg key is updated every 2 minutes automatically
and
I am not sure what is trying to access the Outlook Express data files.
Even
if I delete the data files out of my Application data they are recreated
by
some process.

I do not have Windows Desktop Search and am unaware of any behind the
scenes
indexing causing Outlook Express to regenerate this profile every 2
minutes.
The only solution at this time is to delete the current users
identity\software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0\Compact Check Count string
value and by myself roughly 20 to 40 minutes.

I will continue to maintain both discussions in hopes of a resolution, but
in the future it would be helpful if you did not suggest posting a message
in a forum you do not wish me to post in.

Thanks,
Josh

[X-post to OE General, OE6, & Windows Update newsgroups for maximum
exposure]

Josh, you're not doing yourself or those who are already attempting to
assist you any favors by beginning a new thread in this newsgroup.

Please post any/all follow-up in your original thread in OE General
newsgroup:
http://groups.google.com/group/micr...ss.general/browse_frm/thread/21bed57c0612153f

This behavior is affecting a very, very small minority of users [1] and
we're doing our very best to discover why and how to fix it. Again,
please
stick with you original thread.
===============================================

[1]
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_...008&as_maxd=1&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2008&safe=off

http://groups.google.com/group/micr...lookexpress/browse_frm/thread/ac059608c2a8bcc

http://groups.google.com/group/micr...s.general/browse_frm/thread/21bed57c0612153f/

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/browse_frm/thread/a306ea7a480bcebe
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

I just installed SP3 for XP this morning. After installing the SP I have
been trying all day to get OE to stop with the pop-up messages. I had
read
a
post from someone else that mentioned to reset the Compact Check Count
if
your system crashed during compaction. Oddly enough this silenced the
issue
for about 10 to 20 minutes, but as you stated something is opening OE.

I haven't used OE in over a year so it is definitely annoying to have
this
continue.

I do not have Windows Desktop Search or Google Desktop search installed
so
I
am confused as to what item is trying to continually open OE. I was
watching
process monitor and could not find anything other than an extra svchost
after the service pack. This is becoming a real nuisance though.

Unfortunately you can't uninstall OE

Any help would be appreciated..

 

[Josh Beavers]

I actually have tried that already. I even went a step further last night to
blow away the entire Outlook Express key in registry under Identities and it
keeps being recreated.

I double checked my indexing service and turned it off so I am really
confused. I may try the uninstall SP3 but have had limited success with that
option in my old troubleshooting days...

Keep you posted,
Josh

Hi Josh,

I have Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 3 and I also use Outlook
Express 6 all the time. I haven't had the problem you are mentioning, but
you stated that you don't use Outlook Express any longer.

If this is the case, I would go to C:\Documents and Settings\Josh
Beavers\Local Settings\Application Data\Identities and delete all the
Identities stored there. Outlook Express stores its Store Folders there.

current users
identity\software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0\Compact Check Count

There should not be a Compact Check Count Reg Key stored there. You may
have a Virus or Spyware installed on your system. Download and install
SpyBot Search and Destroy and see what it saids. Latest is 1.52.

http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html


--
thecreator

PA Bear I am really confused by your intentions. I was sticking with the
Outlook Express forum and you instructed me to post my question into the
WinXP general discussion which I did as requested.

All information that is pertinent has been posted in the General XP
discussion. The Outlook Express compact the free disk space message keeps
popping-up on its own even though I do not open or use Outlook Express
anymore. The following reg key is updated every 2 minutes automatically
and I
am not sure what is trying to access the Outlook Express data files. Even
if
I delete the data files out of my Application data they are recreated by
some
process.

I do not have Windows Desktop Search and am unaware of any behind the
scenes
indexing causing Outlook Express to regenerate this profile every 2
minutes.
The only solution at this time is to delete the current users
identity\software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0\Compact Check Count string
value and by myself roughly 20 to 40 minutes.

I will continue to maintain both discussions in hopes of a resolution, but
in the future it would be helpful if you did not suggest posting a message
in
a forum you do not wish me to post in.

Thanks,
Josh

[X-post to OE General, OE6, & Windows Update newsgroups for maximum
exposure]

Josh, you're not doing yourself or those who are already attempting to
assist you any favors by beginning a new thread in this newsgroup.

Please post any/all follow-up in your original thread in OE General
newsgroup:
http://groups.google.com/group/micr...ss.general/browse_frm/thread/21bed57c0612153f

This behavior is affecting a very, very small minority of users [1] and
we're doing our very best to discover why and how to fix it. Again,
please
stick with you original thread.
===============================================

[1]
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_...008&as_maxd=1&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2008&safe=off

http://groups.google.com/group/micr...lookexpress/browse_frm/thread/ac059608c2a8bcc

http://groups.google.com/group/micr...s.general/browse_frm/thread/21bed57c0612153f/

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/browse_frm/thread/a306ea7a480bcebe
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Josh Beavers wrote:
I just installed SP3 for XP this morning. After installing the SP I
have
been trying all day to get OE to stop with the pop-up messages. I had
read
a
post from someone else that mentioned to reset the Compact Check Count
if
your system crashed during compaction. Oddly enough this silenced the
issue
for about 10 to 20 minutes, but as you stated something is opening OE.

I haven't used OE in over a year so it is definitely annoying to have
this
continue.

I do not have Windows Desktop Search or Google Desktop search installed
so
I
am confused as to what item is trying to continually open OE. I was
watching
process monitor and could not find anything other than an extra svchost
after the service pack. This is becoming a real nuisance though.

Unfortunately you can't uninstall OE

Any help would be appreciated..

 

[thecreator]

Hi Josh,

Turn off System Restore.

Start > Control Panel > Add or Remove Programs > Add/Remove Windows
Components

Uncheck Outlook Express. Click Next.

Reboot and turn back on System Restore.


--
thecreator

I actually have tried that already. I even went a step further last night
to
blow away the entire Outlook Express key in registry under Identities and
it
keeps being recreated.

I double checked my indexing service and turned it off so I am really
confused. I may try the uninstall SP3 but have had limited success with
that
option in my old troubleshooting days...

Keep you posted,
Josh

Hi Josh,

I have Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 3 and I also use Outlook
Express 6 all the time. I haven't had the problem you are mentioning, but
you stated that you don't use Outlook Express any longer.

If this is the case, I would go to C:\Documents and Settings\Josh
Beavers\Local Settings\Application Data\Identities and delete all the
Identities stored there. Outlook Express stores its Store Folders there.

current users
identity\software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0\Compact Check Count

There should not be a Compact Check Count Reg Key stored there. You
may
have a Virus or Spyware installed on your system. Download and install
SpyBot Search and Destroy and see what it saids. Latest is 1.52.

http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html


--
thecreator

PA Bear I am really confused by your intentions. I was sticking with
the
Outlook Express forum and you instructed me to post my question into
the
WinXP general discussion which I did as requested.

All information that is pertinent has been posted in the General XP
discussion. The Outlook Express compact the free disk space message
keeps
popping-up on its own even though I do not open or use Outlook Express
anymore. The following reg key is updated every 2 minutes automatically
and I
am not sure what is trying to access the Outlook Express data files.
Even
if
I delete the data files out of my Application data they are recreated
by
some
process.

I do not have Windows Desktop Search and am unaware of any behind the
scenes
indexing causing Outlook Express to regenerate this profile every 2
minutes.
The only solution at this time is to delete the current users
identity\software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0\Compact Check Count
string
value and by myself roughly 20 to 40 minutes.

I will continue to maintain both discussions in hopes of a resolution,
but
in the future it would be helpful if you did not suggest posting a
message
in
a forum you do not wish me to post in.

Thanks,
Josh

:

[X-post to OE General, OE6, & Windows Update newsgroups for maximum
exposure]

Josh, you're not doing yourself or those who are already attempting to
assist you any favors by beginning a new thread in this newsgroup.

Please post any/all follow-up in your original thread in OE General
newsgroup:
http://groups.google.com/group/micr...ss.general/browse_frm/thread/21bed57c0612153f

This behavior is affecting a very, very small minority of users [1]
and
we're doing our very best to discover why and how to fix it. Again,
please
stick with you original thread.
===============================================

[1]
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_...008&as_maxd=1&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2008&safe=off

http://groups.google.com/group/micr...lookexpress/browse_frm/thread/ac059608c2a8bcc

http://groups.google.com/group/micr...s.general/browse_frm/thread/21bed57c0612153f/

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/browse_frm/thread/a306ea7a480bcebe
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Josh Beavers wrote:
I just installed SP3 for XP this morning. After installing the SP I
have
been trying all day to get OE to stop with the pop-up messages. I
had
read
a
post from someone else that mentioned to reset the Compact Check
Count
if
your system crashed during compaction. Oddly enough this silenced
the
issue
for about 10 to 20 minutes, but as you stated something is opening
OE.

I haven't used OE in over a year so it is definitely annoying to
have
this
continue.

I do not have Windows Desktop Search or Google Desktop search
installed
so
I
am confused as to what item is trying to continually open OE. I was
watching
process monitor and could not find anything other than an extra
svchost
after the service pack. This is becoming a real nuisance though.

Unfortunately you can't uninstall OE

Any help would be appreciated..